Topic: [ANN][HLM] HELIUM - page 35. (Read 189467 times)

Has the move to discord been completed?

I could be wrong, but I think Pivx does about 5%+ yearly. I know for sure it's not more than 10%, but they could always modify this when they implement it. At least 10% would be preferably IMO, but that's just me.

If this is going to be a PIVX based proof-of-stake coin what will the annual staking interest be?

I've bought the D3 machines only to mine Helium, because I had a big faith
now i'm mining some s*** coins from [ann] to [ann], because mining Dash is not an option to ROI...
ok, nothing to do for me here, maybe I will buy some and wait a hype....

this POW & MN stories are ruining the good mining adventure

Thanks, very interesting news indeed. I am becoming more hopeful about HLM again due to the renewed activity.


I would expect the dev team is the one setting the launch date and communicating it to Cryptopia (after they have a working wallet and it has been scanned by 'Topia, of course).


IDK. The hype around ICO PoS tokens is incredible currently. Grassroots developments, be it PoS or PoW, have a much harder time to capture any mind-share right now. The crypto scene is changing, whether we like it or not.

Yes, it is kind of sad that home mining is going away, I feel you there. OTOH, I think PoW is a dead end unless you go to great length to fuck up ASIC mining like XMR does. I know it hurts for all you Antminer owners, but every smaller PoW coin that can be ASIC mined is susceptible to all kind of shenanigans - from 51% attacks to pools driving up the difficulty to insane heights and then switching hashing power over to another coin, leaving it with a too high confirmation time. PoW has become less about a way to secure a network and more about how to pay off an expensive mining rig.

I have a D3 that will never ROI either and I got batch 1.5. But I still voted for PivX because POS is superior to POW. It's in our best interest to have the best blockchain possible.

@BonTonPlease

 Cryptopia will go live with HLM probably just after launch, from what I understand we are a week or two away.

Has the date been set by Cryptopia when trading will be available on their platform or is that still unknown?

Not likely now. Getting a Helium Masternode now,  IMHO, they would have done better as a dash version and POW miners for a bit...just for the cheerleader effect...a LOT (ALL) Bitmain or other x11 units would have mined it...no no hype...etc ..just another POS coin ...

now it is just another PIVX POS coin clone...w/o any fanfare

anyway, just my viewpoint......if I want a masternode I will probably look for the next up and coming coin instead....

anyway, I often wonder what will happen when home miners of any flavor asic/gpu etc goes away....no more cheerleaders....only traders and Hodl'ers ...seems like will be more guiet

indeed on new adoption and promotion

yes, HLM will be based on PIVX and will be POS not POW which means no mining. If you need the 1000 HLM to run a masternode and missed the airdrop (like me) you'll have to pick some up on cryptopia.co.nz when they launch.

and i think PIVX codebase is the choice from the community right now,,
also everyone can read the last updates from helium in the link below
https://www.heliumlabs.org/blog/mar-20th-ledgercodeteam
regards

POS!?!?!

well yeah, Masternodes only
great

our ants D3 will ROI never

big tnx to the slack channel than 

I think it will be a POS only coin. If you have another suggestion, you can check the slack channel. They discussed over there and many people voted for POS.

so now we are not on X11 anymore?  the new algo will be Quark? am I right 

PivX is officially announced. The second layer will be service nodes. I have my own project hopes that I will present to the community to see if there is any interest. I wouldn't be the one implementing it so feasibility would be a factor. Soonish for sure, only a few issues with Bittrex wallets and reimbursement to the core team to deal with. Almost time for lunch.

Thanks Krister and the team for the update on the site. Sad to see gjhiggins go, but thanks a lot for all you did

I am happy to read we are getting more dev-power on board, something that is desperately needed at this time. I won't lie, I was rather shocked to learn that a discussion was coming up whether to fork off Dash or PIVX that late in development, I thought a lot of code was written already. If I do understand things correctly, we are starting with a 1:1 clone of PIVX and implement some kind of layer-2 network like Lightning on top of it. And this also means we would be launching soon-ish?

Ffs will the outcome of this decision impact the price of either of them? PIVX has a leg over DASH in regard to auto-adjustability of mn earnings and maybe team is not that cracked up in comparison with dash team who forget their own names in endless pursuit of cheap coins yielded through price manipulation.

I'll be setting up a few nodes. I vote for the PIVX clone with the zerocoin. This is working well for PHR, RUPX, WGR, etc. Either is fine though! Glad to see this coin is alive - been anticipating this for quite some time.

MRD

Dash was the settled fork in the beginning. Since then, a lot has come to lite about Dash code. I can't tell you what happened to the testnet from fall, there was some work done by coins101 in the Dash github. But the debate to change to PivX is due to more recent developments. gj is handling the technical side of the launch and is very capable, a realistic plan to implement service nodes is in place and some of us have other proposals to put forward to increase the usefulness of the network.

That gives much more of an insight into how far along and how well planned this project is. Considering this is now at least a full quarter late to launch and was announced over a year ago, to say this is disappointing is an understatement. This should all have been dealt with at the planning stage before the coin was announced.

 Will do, it will be compatible with Dash or PivX, depending on which wins the vote. Here's my summary (with my opinion) of the current debate.



 There is an active vote to move to Discord, Discord is winning by a landslide. There will be a vote in the coming days, the questions are:

 Fork Dash, deal with patented, centralized updates that could take forever. Helium should not remain compatible with Dash long enough to even get 1 security update. Dash is POW.

Or

 Fork PivX and get a less proven tech, but faster speeds out the door, little risk of centralization and a wallet that is more advanced. IE: Treasury proposals and Masternode voting from the wallet.

My take:

POW will never scale, it will always be wasteful and no one really benefits from it except ASIC manufacturers. The age old question, spend my money on mining equipment or buy coins. Well, in the history of crypto, buying coins flat out has always been  the better choice. POW will attrack negative media attention for wasting electricity and is vulnerable to a 51% attack.

POS solves the entry level dilemma, buying coins is mining. You PC will process transaction (or VPS) the way Satoshi Nakamoto intended. You earn rewards staking until you have enough for a Masternode, then you can move to that for more rights and income. POS is more secure against a 51% attack, you can't just control 51% of the hash power (like Bitmain could), you have to own 51% of the coins, which becomes impossible. POS has no mining pools to sabotage software upgrades, that is BTCs biggest flaw.