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newbie
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January 05, 2018, 01:30:08 PM
Check this:

HELIUM BLOCKCHAIN ALLIANCE - Robert Longden IBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=3WszfphlmZA

Check this web too: http://cobieblockchain.com/

May they never tell you again that this is smoke and waste Wink

This is completely misleading - the logo for Helium Blockchain Alliance is not associated with Robert Longden's presentation (starting at 8:33) but rather the previous presenter's discussion (name unidentified).  Longden's presentation is clearly about the Hyperledger Fabric and the importance of that to the construction industry.

The Helium Alliance logo appears to be just a paid sponsor logo for the event which is an extremely common and acceptable business practice (along side of the Hyperledger logo).

I sincerely appreciate RzeroD taking the time to document that the Helium Alliance in fact presented nothing to the industry at this event other than a sponsor logo and actually promoted the importance of Hyperledger to the construction industry.

The slide in that video is from the presentation found here: http://cobieblockchain.com/wp-content/uploads/2017//07/03-cobie-blockchain4.pdf

In that presentation there is a slide that says:

• Blockchain software will be based on Hyperledger
Composer
• Linux Foundation & IBM influenced
• Cross industry specification and requirements will be
coordinated through Helium Alliance

Then the next presenter is Robert Longden from Hyperledger.

Funny that he didn't see the need tell everyone that they actually weren't working together...
sr. member
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January 05, 2018, 12:58:56 PM
Man, I'm really getting tired of emotionally coddling the children on this board. Stop responding to newbie trolls, some of you are either lying or incompetent. Slack was updated days ago.


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Jason C
To offer some insight into a few burning questions that arise every so often:

1. @coins101 and myself are most definitely committed to this project and the motivations are not financially rooted. Said another way, both of us have been working day jobs in the Enterprise world at various levels (you can look up my background via Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/cassidyjason/ ).  We have accomplished much in our professional careers outside of cryptocurrency as well as a fair share within. For both of us the goal here is simple - Create something that will last well beyond our years in the project. We have put a sizeable amount of our own funds (yes, a lot of money) into the project and we have every intention of seeing that come back to us someday.




2. The Bittrex listing was something that both @coins101 and myself worked diligently on for many months. Not weeks, months. This was due to a changing of the political climate and Bittrex was preparing to address this. Their resources were very constrained due to having to jump through hoops for regulators and other improved security measures. They also knew helping us with the snapshot would be more work on their end. Sadly, we did not get word from them that they could not help us until very close to our snapshot date. At the time, the snapshot date had been pushed back to accommodate an exchange due to the overwhelming support from the community to have one for convenience.  We had a back-up option in Cryptopia and we pivoted as fast as possible without forcing yet another delay on the community.




3. This project has very long term goals with Enterprise aspirations. Any chain can close DASH and toss out a MN setup with a few fancy tech terms to gain a quick marketcap placing. This is not our interest, so much of the work we do that cannot be shared here is due to either legal reasons or it is in the best interest of our partnerships at the time. Some of the delays on the project to date have been due to this and that is a reflection of our long term focus to bring value to the chain. Nothing outside of real world usage is going to matter soon with a space of 5000 coins
Posted in #generalDec 30th at 3:42 PM


[11:31]
 Jason C
I make a sincere effort to answer questions of all kinds via PM so you can feel free to reach out to me. If there is something I cannot share in terms of information it is 100% to retain the confidentiality of other parties or matters that are currently being worked through to completion
Posted in #generalDec 30th at 3:47 PM
sr. member
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January 05, 2018, 12:34:32 PM
Does anyone have an update from Slack about this?

No update about anything in Slack, Coin101 is still absent. There are a few hundred messages about if it was a scam or not. Useless, but very entertaining.
newbie
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January 05, 2018, 11:40:09 AM
Does anyone have an update from Slack about this?
member
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January 05, 2018, 10:27:35 AM
Check this:

HELIUM BLOCKCHAIN ALLIANCE - Robert Longden IBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=3WszfphlmZA

Check this web too: http://cobieblockchain.com/

May they never tell you again that this is smoke and waste Wink

This is completely misleading - the logo for Helium Blockchain Alliance is not associated with Robert Longden's presentation (starting at 8:33) but rather the previous presenter's discussion (name unidentified).  Longden's presentation is clearly about the Hyperledger Fabric and the importance of that to the construction industry.

The Helium Alliance logo appears to be just a paid sponsor logo for the event which is an extremely common and acceptable business practice (along side of the Hyperledger logo).

I sincerely appreciate RzeroD taking the time to document that the Helium Alliance in fact presented nothing to the industry at this event other than a sponsor logo and actually promoted the importance of Hyperledger to the construction industry.
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January 05, 2018, 10:23:05 AM
I have skimmed the 50 minutes video, but I haven't noticed the Helium logo. Could you point me to the correct part, please? Unfortunately I couldn't spend enough time to see the whole video from the beginning to the end.

(Genuine question, not trolling)

It's on the first slide on the corner, it says "Helium Alliance."


Yes, I saw it (or something very similar as the quality isn't too good), thank you...
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Paranoid In Chief
January 05, 2018, 06:53:41 AM
I have skimmed the 50 minutes video, but I haven't noticed the Helium logo. Could you point me to the correct part, please? Unfortunately I couldn't spend enough time to see the whole video from the beginning to the end.

(Genuine question, not trolling)

It's on the first slide on the corner, it says "Helium Alliance."
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January 05, 2018, 06:12:31 AM
How about producing a video from someone in Helium?   you can't.

Robert is there to represent Hyperledger, and the topic of blockchain.  He is not representing Helium, he doesn't even mention in during the whole
presentation!!!!  He wont even talk about what helium is.

IBM area a serious company, they produce serious ideas and solutions. 

Coins101 shadow of secrets is coming to an end. No more false promises

It is a very serious environment but according to you they have put the Helium Alliance logo because yes, because it was cool.

I have skimmed the 50 minutes video, but I haven't noticed the Helium logo. Could you point me to the correct part, please? Unfortunately I couldn't spend enough time to see the whole video from the beginning to the end.

(Genuine question, not trolling)
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Paranoid In Chief
January 04, 2018, 10:40:54 AM
How about producing a video from someone in Helium?   you can't.

Robert is there to represent Hyperledger, and the topic of blockchain.  He is not representing Helium, he doesn't even mention in during the whole
presentation!!!!  He wont even talk about what helium is.

IBM area a serious company, they produce serious ideas and solutions. 

Coins101 shadow of secrets is coming to an end. No more false promises

It is a very serious environment but according to you they have put the Helium Alliance logo because yes, because it was cool.
newbie
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January 04, 2018, 10:32:09 AM
How about producing a video from someone in Helium?   you can't.

Robert is there to represent Hyperledger, and the topic of blockchain.  He is not representing Helium, he doesn't even mention it during the whole
presentation!!!!  He wont even talk about what helium is.

IBM area a serious company, they produce serious ideas and solutions.  

Coins101 shadow of secrets is coming to an end. No more false promises
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Paranoid In Chief
January 04, 2018, 10:28:38 AM
This is a video from an event organised by RICS: Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors.  

There are zero, and I mean a huge zero, amount of talks by anyone from HELIUM.  

Your evidence is from an invited guest from IBM, a real businessman.

How about producing a video from helium creators.  It will never happen. Because they don't exist. It was all a mirage.

The project is dead and was only ever a collection of promises from Coins101 that went over as IOU's to cryptopia.


Dude, the Helium Alliance logo is in the damn presentation and they are showing the same slides that are uploaded at cobieblockchain.com

What if you stop lying?  Wink
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January 04, 2018, 10:25:53 AM
This is a video from an event organised by RICS: Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. 

There are zero, and I mean a huge zero, amount of talks by anyone from HELIUM. 

Your evidence is from an invited guest from IBM, a real businessman.

How about producing a video from helium creators.  It will never happen. Because they don't exist. It was all a mirage.

The project is dead and was only ever a collection of promises from Coins101 that went over as IOU's to cryptopia.
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Paranoid In Chief
January 04, 2018, 10:06:06 AM
Check this:

HELIUM BLOCKCHAIN ALLIANCE - Robert Longden IBM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=3WszfphlmZA

Check this web too: http://cobieblockchain.com/

May they never tell you again that this is smoke and waste Wink
newbie
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January 04, 2018, 09:13:04 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Emperor%27s_New_Clothes

I have the perfect tale for yourself, its called Emperors new clothes.  It directly applies to you. 

Helium simply does not exist, its only an IOU on cryptopia that has been abandoned.

There is no enterprise. No blockchain. No leader.  A basic twitter. A basic website. Nothing updated. Community desperate and abandoned.  Every time frame
months past with zero result.

And in the face of the above you want to call me out for fud?  there is nothing to fud. Im just trying to stop Coins101 pulling this crap
again and answer to the entire mess he has made.
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Paranoid In Chief
January 04, 2018, 08:46:17 AM
By this stage there should be a whole group of developers all contributing to Helium.

Nobody can offer anything as Coins101 has nothing he can share with anyone of any quality. 

Karmashark clearly has totally zero in regards to enterprise to offer anyone. 

Coins101 months ago said "just wait there honey, I will be home soon with something great" and never returned again. Its laughable.

You see when other projects are under wraps, there are many contributing voices to each section of development.   

We have one guy, one solitary lost individual who won't talk to anyone, doesn't provide a shred of work in any area and you want to defend it
to your last breath.

Not a single ounce of work has been done on this since August. Total failure.

I have to admit, you have a great imagination to invent stories.
Right now you are just a fudder without evidence, which is confirmed as the time passes.
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January 04, 2018, 08:34:51 AM
By this stage there should be a whole group of developers all contributing to Helium.

Nobody can offer anything as Coins101 has nothing he can share with anyone of any quality. 

Karmashark clearly has totally zero in regards to enterprise to offer anyone. 

Coins101 months ago said "just wait there honey, I will be home soon with something great" and never returned again. Its laughable.

You see when other projects are under wraps, there are many contributing voices to each section of development.   

We have one guy, one solitary lost individual who won't talk to anyone, doesn't provide a shred of work in any area and you want to defend it
to your last breath.

Not a single ounce of work has been done on this since August. Total failure.
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Paranoid In Chief
January 04, 2018, 07:51:44 AM
RzeroD ladies and gentleman is clearly in with their whole network.  Gets the pump info prior to fleecing the dumb money which chases it later.

So sad that someone can try and support a project and claim some sort of proof using the lack of evidence method.

Bitrex and Cryptopia connection on everything they do would be easily used as significant body of proof in this total Scam operation.

Helium has zero development capability and got Ghiggins to try and bodge together a chain because they are totally inept.

Then that became too much like hard work and threw in the towel.  

Keep cheering while the titanic goes down RZeroD.

It's easier to attack me than to prove that I am wrong.
Any accusation without evidence again? Tongue

Helium has zero development capability and got Ghiggins to try and bodge together a chain because they are totally inept.


You prove again that you have no idea what you are talking about. In any programming team that works on large or complicated projects, it is very normal for workers to only know how to program/design a part of the code because they are specialized in that part/language/framework/whatever.
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January 04, 2018, 07:22:08 AM
RzeroD ladies and gentleman is clearly in with their whole network.  Gets the pump info prior to fleecing the dumb money which chases it later.

So sad that someone can try and support a project and claim some sort of proof using the lack of evidence method.

Bitrex and Cryptopia connection on everything they do would be easily used as significant body of proof in this total Scam operation.

Helium has zero development capability and got Ghiggins to try and bodge together a chain because they are totally inept.

Then that became too much like hard work and threw in the towel. 

Keep cheering while the titanic goes down RZeroD.
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Paranoid In Chief
January 04, 2018, 06:54:52 AM
Warning to everyone.   Coins101 is clearly the creator of Bitcoin Spread.   As always his helper Karmashark is by his side cheering on his latest scam.    


First, there is not a single proof that coins101 or karma have any relationship with BitcoinSpread. Such a relationship is stupid for the following reasons:
  • According to you they have gone from the most complicated and rare scam in history (Helium) to the most stupid and easy of all (BitcoinSpread - make a "fork" with the word Bitcoin)
  • The creators of BitcoinSpread show a CLEAR lack of not having a clue (they do not know that there are 2 threads of SPR, they copied the old thread and they cloned the old GitHub, they think that the developer is MrSpread) and I do not have to tell you about the technical part.
  • Why expose himself as Coins101, that there are people who know him personally when you can create a new account in BTCT, say that it was necessary for PR.

Karmashark introduced Bitcoin Spread Ann thread and as if by magic a new user has created the coin.


That is completely false. Karma did not introduce BTCSPR at any time.
You are referring to this message: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1045373.6400

He was offering a plausible explanation of Spreadcoin's price increase at the beginning of the year and responding to the accusations about the manipulation of the SPR price that georgem made about the Helium team in that same thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27008946
You can see the answers from coins101 and karmashark below.
In addition, two messages later he criticized that same project saying clearly that it was not going to get to anything:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.27303936

Why say that project (a supposed scam of yours) was trash and that it was not going to get to anything when you could just shut up? To look more innocent? Please...


Coins101 also has created Vtorrent in 2017 and now is going back to pump that now he is finished his total joke of
claiming to create Helium.

Coins101 and Karmashark have abandoned the Helium project and ignore the community, amusingly the community
has a bizarre belief development will still occur, when its clear its leaders have cashed in and shipped out long ago.


The same as before, if according to you they have created two scams with new accounts (BTCSpread and Vtorrent) why not create another one for Helium?
Apart from that, there is nothing to indicate that coins101 or karma were the creators of those projects.
Your theory does not hold.

Coins101 never completes any project he is involved in will go on forking and creating coins until he has enough money
that he no longer feels the need to pull this BS.  


Considering that he has never created any project from scratch, your deduction in this part doesn't hold either.

Coins101 never responds to any questions from the helium community, but he will run to his own defence if any accusation is made by Georgem as he is purely interested in his own self preservation.  


They can not answer questions related to the project for legal reasons. Karma said it, and I quote:
"...so much of the work we do that cannot be shared here is due to either legal reasons or it is in the best interest of our partnerships at the time. "

That coins101 has not said a "hello" is something that we all agree is weird. That's the only valid point you can have, and you do not even mention it.


Shame on him and his front man Karmashark.   Their time is coming to an end and the walls are closing in on their double act.  Its over gentleman. Just go and create a new profile and start all over again.

For those that are not capable Zijieli is clearly just coins101 and his gang of scammers.  


¬¬

Typical hallmarks include getting cryptopia to release the coin and claiming Bittrex with zero chance of achieving it. Exactly the same as Helium.  


The Bittrex thing has already been explained repeatedly, the snapshot could not be done with Bittrex due to the dates they were. In August there was the Bitcoin hardfork and all the work that would entail. In November they had more hard forks and on top of that they had to update something about the KYC (if I remember correctly) so they were quite busy too.

For a coin to be listed in Cryptopia, you have to pay a considerable amount (when the snapshot was less) and they also have to do an investigation of the project.
For a scam would have been easier to say that later would be listed on several exchanges.



Your accusations are not supported by any side and, on top of that, you do not offer a single piece of evidence.
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January 04, 2018, 06:16:18 AM
True fud would only occur if Coins and Karma actually manage to Launch something,  but they are totally inept. 

So the only way you can Fud their project is to try and prevent a pre pump of whichever fork they are trying to run.

Coins101 Has been in crypto for years and years.  Never has seen a single project through.

He has abandoned Helium,  he has done zero work.    Karmashark created a twitter account that has stock photos and about 20 minutes of effort.

Its a total disaster.   Its time this came to an end.   
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