Topic: [ANN][HUC] Huntercoin - Worlds First Decentralized Game/World on the Blockchain - page 139. (Read 879551 times)

disaster has happened and i see maaaany bgb bots out there (at least as name), that have taken advantage of name reservation

i find it very unbalanced that the QT client doesn't have that feature because it give so much advantage to bots... unfair doesn't respect at full the feeling

I'll implement that stuff on my client, anyway it's something that actually has to be fixed on qt client too, even if would be better to remove at least the capability of name reservation, that huntercoin doesn't need
it sounds as a cheat to humans players and to be even, i think that that feature shouldn't exist, let everyone start from the same point and just create a new hunter when disaster strike

since you wrote me on PM but the reply could be shared, let me reply to your pm here too:

from your PM:



hi, while i can agree on some considerations (not all, details will follow) I've to say I'm not part of huntercoin dev, I'm not a decision maker. I'm an indipendent developer that spent thousand hours on my client version to allow users to play better and leverage bot advantages.

about your consideration, i don't think the model you are describing is feasible, here why:

a - if hunters costs nothing, people will create thousand of them, causing the system to collapse and each block being huge. At early stage, creating a player costed 1 HUC and you had 1 general and 2 hunters, so 3 movable characters, and the map was crowded and unplayable, even because of bots. then snailbrain rised the cost to 10 HUC and with only the general, so 1 moveable player, that caused a popolation reduction, game more playable and game faster because less time is needed to parse a block (because of less transactions)

b - for the game to be played on a tablet, phone, etc... a centralized version must be done, or at least a remote machine running a daemon should be available (actually 1 for each user, because daemon can't handle multiple wallets), otherwise the costs to parse all transactions,generate the game state and validate moves would be too much for any "minimal hardware", there was a moment, when the map was crowded, that even a PC wasn't enough and an SSD or RAM Drive was needed to play properly...
if you add up on that that hopefully playerbase will rise in future, it would be a real problem (but here pruning and optimizations will help a lot)

c - that's technically impossible to prevent bot to be used, period. daemon and QT wallet expose an RPC interface that's used to read information and send transactions, etc... so you can't prevent bot being created, you just need to face it. A possible future scenario is that human players play using bots too, that's why now i'm implementing a bot system right into my client.


an ending note about making a live out of huntercoin:
every game state 8 hucs are placed on maps. considering an higher users population ( = > players on maps) this will mean that gaining money would be harder and best players will gain more.

if you do some math, with an even distribution, considering 80 players are playing (this is a very low count, they should be much more to be successfull, something like x100, but i've said 80 just for math purpose) ,  everyone should gain 0.1 huc/block

0.1*1440 (1440=average numbers of blocks per day) will mean 144, at current rate, in $, means ~2, so for 30 days of play, this will mean 60$ month

now considering that in this game even distribution doesn't exists because is a matter of skill, this mean that will be fewer people gaining more and others less

now add on top of that that the costs is 10HUC (could and will be changed in future when player base will increase, i think), this mean that you can actually loose instead of gain (on the other end best players could have a big income)

so at the end you should consider this a game that could make you a good income, or loose your investment, it's all up to you (your playing skill and attitude)

(try to remove from the equation the 10 hucs costs and you'll understand another reason why a player cost is better then a free one)

my 2 cents

The command "prune_nameindex numberOfDepthReserved" should be used to prune nameindexfull.dat. The argument should be lager than the gap between current block and last block of disaster.

Wonderful job. But older players sill found the size of nameindexfull.dat not change. Maybe deleting nameindexfull.dat and restarting will reduce its size?
BlockChain Pruning is worth looking forward.

 

Not saying that it is a bad thing or anything.  

Bots and human players together will end up making this thing a big success. It is just part of it.

(you are right I'm not familiar atm besides Huntercoin.info ect, so I'm kinda talking out of my ass! )

You are totally not familiar with the characters on map. More than 90% of characters are created by few people playing this game by hand, not by bot.

Good little pop in the market and some dick weed won't let my .01btc orders stay on top  

God damn bots around every corner I swear to god!!

will try tomorrow! (after backup of course )


 

UPDATE 03/09/14 >> 1.0.11g
Implement prune_nameindex RPC
Reduce nameindexfull.dat to 1MB from 2.5GB?
More Name_list improvements. Very Fast -should be good for 3rd party clients like mithrilmans. see github for more details.

Huntercoin 1.0.11g Windows Download >>
https://mega.co.nz/#!xFtykDiC!vzSAZF7CnpNB8AqKEYjR78RXYupf43edyDbwH9h6fdg
Source >> http://github.com/chronokings/huntercoin


Next Step - BlockChain Pruning...

100% agree.

For now lets just keep in our dirty little secret until we have something to present to people that is playable within 5 mins, so people don't become frustrated and walk away "for good" as we have seen during the beginning of this Huntercoin journey.

There will be a time to push marketing and it will present itself, but now is not the time.  Maybe a little push here and a little push there (need a little lobbying in the Bittrex IRC ect.)  

DOGE didn't start getting it's real push until like 30-40% of all the coins where already in circulation... we are currently at 8.3% in circulation roughly.  The market can kind of do as it pleases right now...

A: No one can short us.
B: 100 BTC will buy the all the coins ever made at these levels.
C: Adding 100BTC of HUC will drive us back to where this coins should be and everyone who added at these levels will have a nice little fat stack of HUC.

Death of Wira

http://youtu.be/33LWRW32Hd0

 

I don't think a bounty will be needed for this although it may not hurt.  There are a number of things that HUC needs (like games, Ramen Noodle shop and other crypto currency like things.)

I've just been just donating to Domob and Snailbrain when I can.

Are they in the making? A bounty set up for them? I'll send my HUC to whoever is doing that. Can't use them now anyway

A Huntercoin website would be nice that allowed people to hear about Huntercoin and be mining within 5 minutes.    

Also to be able to download the app on your phone in order to manage your little miners while on the go.  

The web browser HUC client and the cell phone app will be webwallets too I imagine. (I feel your pain Jungian)

Possibly sell the app with a few preloaded coins/miners in order to encourage people to become involved with Crypto as a whole. I just see this coin directly helping BTC/Crypto as a whole and I would image this is going to have a bright bright future.

Also the fact that HUC is valued not only as a crypto currency, but as a mining investment as well (you need HUC to manually mine, but your pool can get "free" HUC by merge mining it.. which is sweet too for old school miners.)


Yes yes yes!

Thats in the works OG, with a centralized server.  Android and maybe Iphone app too.. not sure of the details.  

On another note, I'm not a member of nastyfans, but was for a couple years.

edit: actually not sure what you are saying totally, but making it easier for people to get going is at the top of the list.

Would sure be awesome if there was embeddable javascript for websites who wanted to act like a source to host the blockchain for this game and make it so people could go to a website and start playing without having to download the blockchain or trust 3rd party code that isn't open source.

Is there a webwallet or something similiar in the making? I honestly can't stand waiting time and have given up.

Be sure to use the mithril man client.

YAY! thanks very much, that will make this much quicker!

you may want to just download the latest blockchain (managed by domob). syncing can take a while if its been a while.

http://chain.huntercoin.org/

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8583919