[ANN][ICO] 4NEW - The World's First tangible Waste to Energy Blockchain - page 157.

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Quote from: ttranhoan215 on April 21, 2018, 05:13:40 AM

I'm confused by something, so far I've always thought that in this project the communities are paying for their garbage being burned. but now I have read that 4New wants to pay for the garbage? have I misunderstood something?

Well, usually people pay to have someone who takes care of the disposal of their waste. So 4New won't pay for the garbage. They collect this waste and uses it in their waste-to-energy plant to generate electricity.

usage of freely available resource (not sure if I should say waste is a resource or not; I guess it is); Electricity is not the only outcome; water and other useful substances are also involved.

4new will use the waste gotten from individuals and also from other environments and convert it to energy.

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on April 21, 2018, 07:16:12 AM

Quote from: ttranhoan215 on April 21, 2018, 05:13:40 AM

I'm confused by something, so far I've always thought that in this project the communities are paying for their garbage being burned. but now I have read that 4New wants to pay for the garbage? have I misunderstood something?

Well, usually people pay to have someone who takes care of the disposal of their waste. So 4New won't pay for the garbage. They collect this waste and uses it in their waste-to-energy plant to generate electricity.

usage of freely available resource (not sure if I should say waste is a resource or not; I guess it is); Electricity is not the only outcome; water and other useful substances are also involved.

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Quote from: ttranhoan215 on April 21, 2018, 05:13:40 AM

I'm confused by something, so far I've always thought that in this project the communities are paying for their garbage being burned. but now I have read that 4New wants to pay for the garbage? have I misunderstood something?

Well, usually people pay to have someone who takes care of the disposal of their waste. So 4New won't pay for the garbage. They collect this waste and uses it in their waste-to-energy plant to generate electricity.

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Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

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Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I don't see them expending abroad for a few years yet. They need to get the UK operation setup and fully operational first, including the completion of the third plant.

Agreed and they also need to prove efficiency of the business model to consider expanding; there is a huge overhead cost to start operational and need solid validation to expand. I think they will be alright for the next few/couple of years to prove the effectiveness and profitability of current model.

Yeah exactly, the next couple of years will be the real test. Once the next plant is completed in 2019, i think from then onwards will be the real proof of profitability. I can see them expanding to 4-5 plants soon after if they do well.

and the good thing is, we have been there from the beginning and can observe how this works with two power plants. Should it bring as expected large profits, we can buy tokens while the people who have become aware only later, must first inform. We have a great advantage in terms of knowledge and, if necessary, can still buy tokens before the 3rd power plant

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I'm confused by something, so far I've always thought that in this project the communities are paying for their garbage being burned. but now I have read that 4New wants to pay for the garbage? have I misunderstood something?

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Quote from: ibininja on April 21, 2018, 01:22:22 AM

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Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I don't see them expending abroad for a few years yet. They need to get the UK operation setup and fully operational first, including the completion of the third plant.

Agreed and they also need to prove efficiency of the business model to consider expanding; there is a huge overhead cost to start operational and need solid validation to expand. I think they will be alright for the next few/couple of years to prove the effectiveness and profitability of current model.

Yeah exactly, the next couple of years will be the real test. Once the next plant is completed in 2019, i think from then onwards will be the real proof of profitability. I can see them expanding to 4-5 plants soon after if they do well.

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Quote from: Cnote328 on April 21, 2018, 04:27:26 AM

Waste is in surplus and energy is running out. By using 4New, these social and global issues will be remedied, the environment and people, will benefit.

I think I can say or tag this project as the environment's best friend. Grin

if the environment had feelings it would have been the happiest on hearing this. Soon we all will be leaving in a waste free world. Grin

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Waste is in surplus and energy is running out. By using 4New, these social and global issues will be remedied, the environment and people, will benefit.

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Quote from: rathaha10 on April 20, 2018, 04:34:12 PM

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Quote from: Anilg on April 20, 2018, 01:20:00 PM

There is estimated profit calculation at 4NEW site. There is possibility of earning 161% return per year.

"Return on Invest: 161% per year. Annual token profit projection based on investment.
Projected Annual Token Valuation based on increase in output capacity of the power plants, while maintaining fixed token supply"

The guy who is going to invest 100 thousand dollars will have a lot of profit as you can see on the estimator. He will earn more than millions wow. But how true is this estimator ?

I would be cautious with these numbers. It's hard to predict such things correctly. And I wouldn't invest solely because I expect such returns.

And btw. if someone invests 100k, he wouldn't earn more than millions (at least not in the first years).

True, it is best to be cautious, because not everything is going to be the exact same as they are planning, however there are already nice progresses with the project already.

Well investors always take a risk so caution is good but it may hold you back from getting loads of money. And a project like this is doing a very good job so i have high hopes for 4NEW.

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Quote from: linhmax on April 20, 2018, 09:51:30 AM

I am so curious to see what's upcoming from 4new! I bet we will have major updates and even the ones spreading fud will be happy 😁😁

Yea but they've dropped some major updates here, unless you've not been keeping tabs on this thread, you can check out their YouTube channel for the latest video about their progress, is really an impressive project to look into, probably one of the best i've seen, my opinion

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Quote from: Darkoth89 on April 20, 2018, 08:52:37 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I don't see them expending abroad for a few years yet. They need to get the UK operation setup and fully operational first, including the completion of the third plant.

Agreed and they also need to prove efficiency of the business model to consider expanding; there is a huge overhead cost to start operational and need solid validation to expand. I think they will be alright for the next few/couple of years to prove the effectiveness and profitability of current model.

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Quote from: rathaha10 on April 20, 2018, 04:34:12 PM

Quote from: Sozialtourist on April 20, 2018, 02:30:30 PM

Quote from: rathaha10 on April 20, 2018, 02:10:13 PM

Quote from: Anilg on April 20, 2018, 01:20:00 PM

There is estimated profit calculation at 4NEW site. There is possibility of earning 161% return per year.

"Return on Invest: 161% per year. Annual token profit projection based on investment.
Projected Annual Token Valuation based on increase in output capacity of the power plants, while maintaining fixed token supply"

The guy who is going to invest 100 thousand dollars will have a lot of profit as you can see on the estimator. He will earn more than millions wow. But how true is this estimator ?

I would be cautious with these numbers. It's hard to predict such things correctly. And I wouldn't invest solely because I expect such returns.

And btw. if someone invests 100k, he wouldn't earn more than millions (at least not in the first years).

True, it is best to be cautious, because not everything is going to be the exact same as they are planning, however there are already nice progresses with the project already.

Those are nice returns in investment for investors who are willing to consider it.. Getting investment wouldn't be an issue for 4new as they are a team working together day in day out making sure they bring out the best of the project.

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Quote from: nxnqauff on April 20, 2018, 03:44:04 PM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I think I asked this question already. But not sure whether I got answer for that. I also mentioned once they are starting their first plant in UK is perfectly fine. Which country is next in their list? Africa or any other Asian countries could be highly beneficial.

It also depends on which countries 4NEW can get contracts in place with governments and local energy suppliers, also the availability of waste in specific areas is an important factor.

I really do think Africa would be a fantastic area to expand the KWATT project to, there is a lot of cheap waste, and like Hendobox said earlier, it will help manage how waste is treated and generate much needed electricity.

I saw a report from back in 2015 that over 600 million people in Africa, more than half the continent's population, aren't connected to a power line. Imagine how much KWATT could change the futures of so many people, in terms of development of the continent as a whole whilst introducing new industries and buiding a brand new workforce which consequently could increase the overall GDP.

I know what I'm talking about is on a large scale, and it is entirely theoretical, but the possibilities are endless with this project if it works and receives backing after results from the initial test plants.

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Quote from: Sozialtourist on April 20, 2018, 02:30:30 PM

Quote from: rathaha10 on April 20, 2018, 02:10:13 PM

Quote from: Anilg on April 20, 2018, 01:20:00 PM

There is estimated profit calculation at 4NEW site. There is possibility of earning 161% return per year.

"Return on Invest: 161% per year. Annual token profit projection based on investment.
Projected Annual Token Valuation based on increase in output capacity of the power plants, while maintaining fixed token supply"

The guy who is going to invest 100 thousand dollars will have a lot of profit as you can see on the estimator. He will earn more than millions wow. But how true is this estimator ?

I would be cautious with these numbers. It's hard to predict such things correctly. And I wouldn't invest solely because I expect such returns.

And btw. if someone invests 100k, he wouldn't earn more than millions (at least not in the first years).

True, it is best to be cautious, because not everything is going to be the exact same as they are planning, however there are already nice progresses with the project already.

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Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

Sound like a very good idea. They can learn a lot from it and they will defenitely expand and eventually cover the whole continent. So i can't wait for them to start this.

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Quote from: nxnqauff on April 20, 2018, 03:44:04 PM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I think I asked this question already. But not sure whether I got answer for that. I also mentioned once they are starting their first plant in UK is perfectly fine. Which country is next in their list? Africa or any other Asian countries could be highly beneficial.

You are right this project will gain stability and cover more grounds in most African countries where power supply is not stable and also there are lots of waste to convert to energy.

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Quote from: linhmax on April 20, 2018, 09:51:30 AM

I am so curious to see what's upcoming from 4new! I bet we will have major updates and even the ones spreading fud will be happy 😁😁

Haha, funny you friend. Those fud reporters will have no choice but to dissipate their time and energy in spreading the project's interesting and consistent development.

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Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I think I asked this question already. But not sure whether I got answer for that. I also mentioned once they are starting their first plant in UK is perfectly fine. Which country is next in their list? Africa or any other Asian countries could be highly beneficial.

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Quote from: faulerwilli on April 20, 2018, 11:12:11 AM

Quote from: Darkoth89 on April 20, 2018, 08:52:37 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 20, 2018, 07:27:40 AM

Quote from: cryptossi on April 19, 2018, 05:27:42 PM

Quote from: Ace44 on April 19, 2018, 03:21:41 AM

Quote from: Hendobox on April 18, 2018, 06:02:40 AM

I think this project will be very vital if it is brought to Africa because here in Africa, we are drowning in waste and lacking adequate power supply

That will surely be a good business base for 4NEW, as the resources can be easily gotten and the market is readily available, though the main purpose of this project is to create like a backup for the steaming population of the blockchain community due to its vast power consumption but it can also be extended to corporate bodies and private homes

Yeah Africa would be a great area for 4NEW to expand to if the idea works in the UK this could really help with the waste problem the whole world is facing at the moment!

It will definitely be a great area. In fact, I think Africa is one place were this project will be very beneficial because of the mismanaged waste and insufficient power supply

I don't see them expending abroad for a few years yet. They need to get the UK operation setup and fully operational first, including the completion of the third plant.

yes, they have enough to do in the UK. And if you look at their plans to produce their own mining hardware, then it may take even longer for them to expand into other countries.
but the prospects are already so great with the 3 UK power plants, they do not have to expand fast

Yea, i must admit, the project is quite herculean, it takes much effort to erect such project and not to mention maintenance and all that but we look forward to a prosperous future and believe that with time, this lovely project will expand to places we never imagined

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