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Topic: [ANN][ICO] Bitcoin Growth Bot, Lending Platform​ 2.0​ [DECEMBER TOKEN SALE] - page 17. (Read 7835 times)

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i noticed that there is already a NCL token https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/nucleustokens/ from sept 2016???

also I am mix reviews of jordan belfort i mean jordan Lindsey Grin
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https://eloncity.io/


Is it too late to switch to ERC20 since some people already purchased Waves tokens



Jordan needs some assistance, can we see bot in action at least so we can build team around it

If I understand correctly the waves tokens haven't even been created yet. I suppose Jordan could still create the waves tokens and use them as a reference to swap to ERC20 tokens later.

It would probably be a pain to do all that, but maybe it would be worth it. Another option is to simply not create the waves tokens and just go directly to ERC20 tokens.

It would probably take a bit longer to achieve but I suppose it would be worth the wait. The platform would be able to take advantage of smart contracts and it would also support the Ethereum network.

These are just thoughts though, it might be moving away too much from the original plan. After all, this is suppose to be the Bitcoin Growth Bot and not the Ethereum Growth Bot.

Which come to think of it... maybe it would not be a bad idea to have both:)
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Is it too late to switch to ERC20 since some people already purchased Waves tokens



Jordan needs some assistance, can we see bot in action at least so we can build team around it







newbie
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Coins must be given regardless of whether a participant or not participates, otherwise this is a good and good scam. People who have taken the time to advertise your project must be rewarded even if they do not participate in pre-sale !!
and as a proof of that advertisement, generate sales from their referrals !!!  Cheesy
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Coins must be given regardless of whether a participant or not participates, otherwise this is a good and good scam. People who have taken the time to advertise your project must be rewarded even if they do not participate in pre-sale !!
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Yeah, transparency clearly means extra scrutiny which is in the end will be worth it and good for all, most especially the space. Doesn't mean it is easy, but it is right and needed.

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I am just going to absorb for a bit here, listening, open to everything, and work on building this the best way to completion.

If you really have something to offer you should postpone the ico. If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.
Let us all share ideas and build the lending platform together. This will build the trust we don't have in all the other projects.

The email you send us today was something that drove me away from your ico.
You asked us to send btc to a random adress and reply to a "no-reply" email adress with tx-code.
That seemed very unprofessional and overhasty.

If you can build trust you don't need to hurry.
On the other hand I was very excited to get the mail. The first thing every sane person will do is check the authenticity of the mail, which is not very difficult. I compared it to the previous mails I received from BGB and also checked the reply address which was [email protected] I didnt find any thing unprofessional in it. The options of $100 & $500 are also very correct. He could have given offer of higher limit like $1000 or even more and people would have been more than happy to grab it. There were ICOs in the recent days (ethconnect) where the Team shown was of stolen identity, fake address etc., still the frenzied people lapped it closing the sale in few minutes/seconds. Come on, I think we all live in a house of glass. Every man is nude in his bed-room. If this person has a 100% Genuine product which he claims he has, only GOD can stop him from fulfilling his vision.

Its very good that he is open to suggestions but that does not mean that he should respond to all sorts of suggestions. I see a fair deal of honesty in his responses. Its good to know that he has vast experience of positives as well as negatives. I am sending him BTC for 500 tokens and I wish him all the very best in his this dream project. Regards to all.
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https://eloncity.io/


If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.


I am not sure how that would work. It seems it would a full time job trying to organize everyone in itself.
Have you seen this type of community project work anywhere else? I would like to look into that more.
As well as if you have any expanded ideas on what that would look like.

We would definitely need to use something like github, Asana or maybe even try https://aragon.one/ for the project management aspect. I've been using Asana for a few years now, and I think it is an amazing tool for collaborative project management.

I know Aragon is on its alpha phase so I'm not really sure how usable it is. I will try to dload it and play with it. Maybe it can be used.

Since the project is yours, you should probably have the final say (at least in the beginning, maybe we can later implement a liquid democracy type system to develop the project further), but we as a community can come up with different suggestions and discuss them openly and you can use that information to make an informed decision about how to proceed.

I agree that it is very easy to give opinions from outside and just criticize the work of others, but I think we all here want the system to function as best as it can. After all, we will all have a stake in this system.

At this moment it seems that there are a few concerns regarding the ICO.

1 - Is the ICO being too rushed?
2 - Should the token be an ERC20 token?
3 - Should the ICO happen through a smart contract instead of Waves?
4 - I'm sure solidity developers and others would love to work on this project and get paid in NCL tokens alone, that being said, isn't it better to build the platform first and then go for the ICO?

In my opinion, the most important aspect of the ICO is for the platform to get enough tokens sold so the trading bot can start bringing daily returns. This way more people will want to join in and purchase NCL and more value the token will have. Classic Bitconnect style.

Thoughts?
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https://eloncity.io/
Bitcoin Growth Bot, found here: https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e is only and first lending platform where the CEO makes himself known and available for scrutiny. He has already done live interviews.  You can look him up on Linkedin and research his track record in related businesses. I personally verified his companies and place of business with the California Secretary of State.

I'm also doing an in-depth background check on the CEO and I will share this info with anyone that signs up using my referral link below.

Bitcoin Growth Bot is also the only lending platform where you can verify the trading activity of the bot.  The is the first real lending platform that is not a scam.

Sign up using the following referral link https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e and you will receive not only 20 NCL Nucleus Tokens for free from the platform but you will get an additional 10 NCL Nucleus Token from me for free as well. A total of 30 NCL Nucleus Tokens worth $22.50 USD for free.

This is the only link that can be used to receive the 10 additional NCL Nucleus Token bonus for free.

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e

After signing up and verifying your email, just send an email to [email protected] and you will receive instructions to get your additional 10 NCL tokens when available.
Selling information you dig online is a pretty cheap way of getting referral links. I believe in putting the information out first and then if people think you did a good job they will happily sign under you. This is completely against the idea of openness and transparency of the blockchain. Thumbs down.

I'm not selling anything. I'm giving something for FREE which I spent a lot of time an effort to compile, some of which I had to pay for.  If anyone is interested in signing up with this program (as I am) then why not sign up where you can get the most value. I'm willing to share my research regarding the responsible parties so if by some chance the platform turns out to be a scam, at least those that signed up under my referral link https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e will have enough information on the scammer(s) to pursue the matter legally. Not to mention, signing up with me will yield you 50% more FREE NCL tokens than if you sign up elsewhere.

I lack the eloquence and skills of a Youtuber or a blogger, I have no other means to bring value to the table to incentivize others to sign up under my referral link and I have invested money and time to bring that value to you for FREE. So stop hating and click on the link below to get the most value and efficiency out of what you are going to do anyway if you intend to use their platform.

Personally, I would not endorse Bitcoin Growth Bot if I did not think it was legit.

Click below to sign up and get maximum value that you cannot get anywhere else:

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e


It's all good. Not hating in any way. I was just expressing my opinion, that I'm not a big fan of this approach but to each his own. Did not mean to upset anyone.
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Thank you very much Smiley

How to get this coin? any airdrop ?

Is there a bounty?

Thanks for your time and interest. I appreciate it very much.

We would to offer bounties. I am sure you probably receive offers all of the time with bounties included. We can't offer that because every penny needs to go towards building this project.

I am simple asking for your consideration if you believe this could be good for community as a whole.

The launch offer is very generous:
You get 15 USD (20 Tokens) when you sign up & verify your email.

Plus 20 tokens for each friend that signs up using your unique referral link.

All channels of communication open. The project is not without it's challenges, it is a big undertaking but we will communicate with everyone throughout.



I signed up, how do I see my token?
newbie
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I vote for no 2 option Grin

Option #2

Purchase as many tokens as you are able in the presale under free market conditions.

Bonuses are as orginally listed:

   0 - 1 million tokens 0.55 (25% bonus) = price of 0.41 USD

   1 - 2 million tokens 0.65 (20% bonus) = price of 0.52 USD

   2 - 3 million tokens 0.75 (15% bonus) = price of 0.64 USD

The pre-sale is an open market with no limits on decentralized exchange. Pure supply and demand.

Purchase methods accepted: BTC, LTC, ETH, WAVES, USD, EUR






Nothing beats the free market BUT you have to stop promoting it to avoid UCOIN cash scenario.

Maybe close new signups and we will buy all tokes available.  3 million tokens isn't much when we have so many hungry investors here.

Shut it down pls, no new members

Wondering how many registered users do you have so far, excluding ghost accounts? If you have more than 1000 then you will be ok, Credence coin had only 1000 investors and they sold 2.2 m tokens.







37,208
Total members



https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
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If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.


I am not sure how that would work. It seems it would a full time job trying to organize everyone in itself.
Have you seen this type of community project work anywhere else? I would like to look into that more.
As well as if you have any expanded ideas on what that would look like.


newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0

Yeah, transparency clearly means extra scrutiny which is in the end will be worth it and good for all, most especially the space. Doesn't mean it is easy, but it is right and needed.

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I am just going to absorb for a bit here, listening, open to everything, and work on building this the best way to completion.

If you really have something to offer you should postpone the ico. If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.
Let us all share ideas and build the lending platform together. This will build the trust we don't have in all the other projects.

The email you send us today was something that drove me away from your ico.
You asked us to send btc to a random adress and reply to a "no-reply" email adress with tx-code.
That seemed very unprofessional and overhasty.

If you can build trust you don't need to hurry.

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
newbie
Activity: 11
Merit: 0
Bitcoin Growth Bot, found here: https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e is only and first lending platform where the CEO makes himself known and available for scrutiny. He has already done live interviews.  You can look him up on Linkedin and research his track record in related businesses. I personally verified his companies and place of business with the California Secretary of State.

I'm also doing an in-depth background check on the CEO and I will share this info with anyone that signs up using my referral link below.

Bitcoin Growth Bot is also the only lending platform where you can verify the trading activity of the bot.  The is the first real lending platform that is not a scam.

Sign up using the following referral link https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e and you will receive not only 20 NCL Nucleus Tokens for free from the platform but you will get an additional 10 NCL Nucleus Token from me for free as well. A total of 30 NCL Nucleus Tokens worth $22.50 USD for free.

This is the only link that can be used to receive the 10 additional NCL Nucleus Token bonus for free.

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e

After signing up and verifying your email, just send an email to [email protected] and you will receive instructions to get your additional 10 NCL tokens when available.
Selling information you dig online is a pretty cheap way of getting referral links. I believe in putting the information out first and then if people think you did a good job they will happily sign under you. This is completely against the idea of openness and transparency of the blockchain. Thumbs down.

I'm not selling anything. I'm giving something for FREE which I spent a lot of time an effort to compile, some of which I had to pay for.  If anyone is interested in signing up with this program (as I am) then why not sign up where you can get the most value. I'm willing to share my research regarding the responsible parties so if by some chance the platform turns out to be a scam, at least those that signed up under my referral link https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e will have enough information on the scammer(s) to pursue the matter legally. Not to mention, signing up with me will yield you 50% more FREE NCL tokens than if you sign up elsewhere.

I lack the eloquence and skills of a Youtuber or a blogger, I have no other means to bring value to the table to incentivize others to sign up under my referral link and I have invested money and time to bring that value to you for FREE. So stop hating and click on the link below to get the most value and efficiency out of what you are going to do anyway if you intend to use their platform.

Personally, I would not endorse Bitcoin Growth Bot if I did not think it was legit.

Click below to sign up and get maximum value that you cannot get anywhere else:

https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
https://www.bitcoingrowthbot.io/?mwr=5946-41e8f17e
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Yeah, transparency clearly means extra scrutiny which is in the end will be worth it and good for all, most especially the space. Doesn't mean it is easy, but it is right and needed.

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I am just going to absorb for a bit here, listening, open to everything, and work on building this the best way to completion.

If you really have something to offer you should postpone the ico. If you are open to suggestions make this a community project.
Let us all share ideas and build the lending platform together. This will build the trust we don't have in all the other projects.

The email you send us today was something that drove me away from your ico.
You asked us to send btc to a random adress and reply to a "no-reply" email adress with tx-code.
That seemed very unprofessional and overhasty.

If you can build trust you don't need to hurry.
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Activity: 85
Merit: 10


I vote for no 2 option Grin

Option #2

Purchase as many tokens as you are able in the presale under free market conditions.

Bonuses are as orginally listed:

   0 - 1 million tokens 0.55 (25% bonus) = price of 0.41 USD

   1 - 2 million tokens 0.65 (20% bonus) = price of 0.52 USD

   2 - 3 million tokens 0.75 (15% bonus) = price of 0.64 USD

The pre-sale is an open market with no limits on decentralized exchange. Pure supply and demand.

Purchase methods accepted: BTC, LTC, ETH, WAVES, USD, EUR






Nothing beats the free market BUT you have to stop promoting it to avoid UCOIN cash scenario.

Maybe close new signups and we will buy all tokes available.  3 million tokens isn't much when we have so many hungry investors here.

Shut it down pls, no new members

Wondering how many registered users do you have so far, excluding ghost accounts? If you have more than 1000 then you will be ok, Credence coin had only 1000 investors and they sold 2.2 m tokens.







37,208
Total members


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Activity: 154
Merit: 100


I vote for no 2 option Grin

Option #2

Purchase as many tokens as you are able in the presale under free market conditions.

Bonuses are as orginally listed:

   0 - 1 million tokens 0.55 (25% bonus) = price of 0.41 USD

   1 - 2 million tokens 0.65 (20% bonus) = price of 0.52 USD

   2 - 3 million tokens 0.75 (15% bonus) = price of 0.64 USD

The pre-sale is an open market with no limits on decentralized exchange. Pure supply and demand.

Purchase methods accepted: BTC, LTC, ETH, WAVES, USD, EUR






Nothing beats the free market BUT you have to stop promoting it to avoid UCOIN cash scenario.

Maybe close new signups and we will buy all tokes available.  3 million tokens isn't much when we have so many hungry investors here.

Shut it down pls, no new members

Wondering how many registered users do you have so far, excluding ghost accounts? If you have more than 1000 then you will be ok, Credence coin had only 1000 investors and they sold 2.2 m tokens.







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Activity: 85
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Im glad you are transparent about not afraid of scrutiny, we lack that in cryptosphere

 Obviously this are early stages and it is work in progress, since you are open to suggestions ,  here are some:

*many of us agree you should drop Waves and do it on Ethereum blockchain, ERC20 tokens. People are more familiar with Ether and im sure there are other reasons, technical people can chime in. Waves had bad rep and not as smart as Eth
*redesign website, make it look and feel professional,  functional/login/backend etc
*do not start pumping it yet till  you recruit all the right people and pre-sale is over
* try to move ICO earlier if possible/ as well as exchange listing (Feb/March seems  too far away)



Yeah, transparency clearly means extra scrutiny which is in the end will be worth it and good for all, most especially the space. Doesn't mean it is easy, but it is right and needed.

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I am just going to absorb for a bit here, listening, open to everything, and work on building this the best way to completion.
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Activity: 154
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Im glad you are transparent about it, not afraid of scrutiny, we lack that in cryptosphere



 Obviously this are early stages and it is work in progress, since you are open to suggestions ,  here are some:

*many of us agree you should drop Waves and do it on Ethereum blockchain, ERC20 tokens. People are more familiar with Ether and im sure there are other reasons, technical people can chime in. Waves have bad rep and not as smart as Eth

*redesign website, make it look and feel professional,  functional/login/backend etc

*do not start pumping it yet till  you recruit all the right people and pre-sale is over

* try to move ICO earlier if possible/ as well as exchange listing (Feb/March seems  too far away)






















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Thanks for the detective work didi-man. So far I have nothing bad to say about Jordan Lindsey. But I am still not 100% convinced about the transparency aspect of this project.
The main concern for me is not who is behind BitConnect or Regal coin or Ethconnect. The real question is who is holding the private keys to the trading bot's address?
Why not create a smart contract on Ethereum where we can all see where the money for the ICO is going. I understand very clearly how all these platforms work and I can tell it is no rocket science. But I do believe in being 100% transparent and just having a decentralized exchange when you conduct your ICO is not enough.

Here are some of my suggestions:
- Use Ethereum smart contracts to hold the ICO funds so we can all see where they are going.
- Create a website on blockstack or running on Ethereum for the trading bot. This way the website can't be shut down.
- The person/people that puts the site up should be able to sign their public address on the site and also outside the site so we can see who is behind it.
- We should be able to confirm and see all the tokens we lend to the bot going to a wallet which should be controlled by a smart contract.
- I don't really care if the bot is trading with us (this is how I think bitconnect functions https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HviRDE_wPI0) and if it is we should be able to see it is fully automated. I am not asking to see the code of the bot. Because I believe if people see the code they will try to game the system and the system will stop working because no one will be actually lending to the bot. It's a catch 22 problem here.
- On the ICO, why not make it that the pre-sale coins go to a smart contract that automatically get loaned to the bot. The system needs a head start and the people that are getting the coins for cheapest should be the ones making the head start. That is the "price" they would have to pay for the system to work and for getting the cheapest coins.
- Let's all discuss how this system could work under this thread. Let's make it truly an open system.

I still have many more ideas, but I would like Jordan to participate in the conversation openly and here.
I still believe the pre-sale is a bit too rushed. If you really need all that money to start the project Jordan, why don't we all just create a multi sig. bitconnect/bitcoin wallet and use that to fund the beginning of this project.

There is only one thing that really captivated me about this project, and this was this one phrase on the website:
"If you live in the Bay Area and are a highly capable, genuinely good, and friendly please apply for the open position below you are qualified for."

Call me naive, but I truly believe people are first and far most good by nature. I would be more than happily participate and help in this project. Not because I can get cheap coins and become rich (even though that is a nice incentive) But because I truly believe decentralization and blockchain technology are the only thing that can help humanity move away from the sad state of affairs we live in. And I will do anything in my power to make that happen.

Dear Bitcointalk community,

This is my project, I believe in it and I am here to make it work. I am delighted to participate in the conversation openly here and share in your help and ideas.

Let me clarify a couple of things to get going.

1. It is incredibly difficult to develop a profitable automated algorithm. I've done it. One hundred percent yearly returns is not going to make me wealthy. Using it to create constant demand for a token that appreciates with those returns can make me and a lot of other people wealthy.

 2. I apologize that those within the USA cannot be included in the crowdsale. I am not hiding behind anonymity because I think those doing that are going to hurt the industry in the long run. My intention was to create this under my California corporation and since have had to incorporate overseas and make sure to not operate within the USA which means excluding U.S. citizens, residents and entities. The SEC has no reach or jurisdiction this way. As a US citizen am required like all others citizens to pay tax on all income earned.

So we are clear steps have been taken to protect the project and make this a non-issue.

3. Everyone is a critic and believes they have better ideas from a far. Please I am open, offer your input and advice in a helpful way that can help make this project a success.

This is my project and my thread and I am here to discuss this openly.

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Now he wants to get at least $ 100 to get payments for referrals.
Do not fall for it.
He needs to show the direction in which he can go along with his scam project.
Calling a project a scam before you even know what it is and how it works says more about you than it says about the project itself.
First he received my data and the conditions for referrals, and now he puts out new conditions with a payment of 100 usd. Is this normal? Is not it cheating?
And I do not advise anyone to contact a person who changes his conditions every day.


How about law and taxes? I dont think US gov will let people run ponzi and avoid paying taxes on fat profits?

What are the chances of gov closing his biz down and investors lose all money?  better to move down south just to be safe



A company that does not allow us citizens, residents or entities to participate, is not operating or incorporated in the USA and you are worried about the US gov shutting it down? That doesn't even make sense.

From the site:

The company is not operating from within the USA and is incorporated elsewhere. We are very sorry the people of the USA are not able to participate. We love Americans and America. It is the laws of the country that prohibit the people from participating.

All US citizens are required to pay taxes on all income earned. Why are you worried about that?
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