[ANN][ICO] EHF eHealth First - page 366.

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Quote from: loup on February 17, 2018, 04:01:19 PM

Quote from: Genesis07 on February 17, 2018, 03:22:44 PM

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on February 17, 2018, 03:19:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoCutie on February 17, 2018, 10:31:53 AM

Hello everybody! You need to know that all unsold during ICO tokens will be burned and EHF tokens will be available
on the crypto-exchange markets since the end of 2018.

this is really good news, this means that the price of tokens will can only grow with time...

absolutely

its time to get ready to buy some ehealth tokens during the sale

for long term hodling.

Good news, I think burning the tokens is the best solution for unsold tokens. The other options usually devalue the token.

Burning unsold tokens is the only right way to conduct ICO and make sure that it will be fair for all of it's participants

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Quote from: loup on February 17, 2018, 04:01:19 PM

Quote from: Genesis07 on February 17, 2018, 03:22:44 PM

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on February 17, 2018, 03:19:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoCutie on February 17, 2018, 10:31:53 AM

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DWKnDCzX0AIV348.jpg

Hello everybody! You need to know that all unsold during ICO tokens will be burned and EHF tokens will be available
on the crypto-exchange markets since the end of 2018.

this is really good news, this means that the price of tokens will can only grow with time...

absolutely

its time to get ready to buy some ehealth tokens during the sale

for long term hodling.

Good news, I think burning the tokens is the best solution for unsold tokens. The other options usually devalue the token.

Good choice to burn the unsold token. Several ICO that didn't burn had many issues after listening on a exchange. Professional decisions lice the whole approach on ehealth

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Quote from: Genesis07 on February 17, 2018, 03:22:44 PM

Quote from: bitcoin-shark on February 17, 2018, 03:19:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoCutie on February 17, 2018, 10:31:53 AM

Hello everybody! You need to know that all unsold during ICO tokens will be burned and EHF tokens will be available
on the crypto-exchange markets since the end of 2018.

this is really good news, this means that the price of tokens will can only grow with time...

absolutely

its time to get ready to buy some ehealth tokens during the sale

for long term hodling.

Good news, I think burning the tokens is the best solution for unsold tokens. The other options usually devalue the token.

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Quote from: jonnytracker on February 17, 2018, 11:49:43 AM

Quote from: matjas on February 17, 2018, 10:18:36 AM

Quote from: hicaribou on February 16, 2018, 07:19:07 PM

Quote from: saintkamei on February 16, 2018, 07:03:48 PM

Quote from: cevap on February 16, 2018, 05:27:02 AM

Quote from: saintkamei on February 15, 2018, 10:08:47 PM

"The United States of America:
The U.S. citizens and residents could participate in ICOs, but there are novel regulation rules for that.
Participation of U.S. citizens and residents in eHealth First's ICO is not prohibited by the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") or U.S. law. However, despite the recent investigation of The DAO and SEC Report No. 81207 ("SEC Report"), establishing the status of an Initial Coin Offering ("ICO") as "securities" subject to regulation under U.S. law, ICO investors are uncertain, especially with respect to ICO's offered by foreign companies, such as eHealth First.
Basing on the review of the U.S. current legislation, the eHealth First Project Team considers, that the EHF Token isn't a security.
Nevertheless, eHealth First makes no promise of compliance with SEC regulations with regards to this ICO. Although eHealth First fully believes in the innovation and success of this project, it advises all potential investors that ICO investments carry certain risks and uncertainties. U.S. citizens and residents seeking to invest in this ICO are urged to independently assess all emerging risks. We provide the Guide for U.S. investors to help foster understanding of the current legal status of ICOs in the U.S., specifically ICOs offered by foreign companies, but we are not providing legal advice on this subject."

Saw this on the website. Are you suggesting US citizens can legally participate in the ICO should they understand that it is not an IPO equivalent of cryptocurrency?

Basically, yes. If the token is not a security token, technically, the above mentioned rules does not apply, but since many countries still don't have clear rules about cryptocurrency in general and ICOs in particular, investing in ICOs still represents a risk, especially in America.

It is risk alright, whether in US or elsewhere in the world. What I thought was bold of eHealth First is to say you can participate when many ICOs wouldn't. It's a Swiss company registered in EU, would this jeopardise any future operations in the US because it doesn't meet the regulatory diktats on ICOs?

Have they done the test to determine if the token is security or utility, i thought there is a company who want to do it but i forgot the name.

I think that there should be a list of qualities that a token should possess in order to be qualified as a security token. Like paying dividends, for example. I don't think that eHealth token qualifies. It was said somewhere that it's a utility token, no?

The good use case will make good price even if it's not dividend token. There will be demands in token

ICOs like KICK ICO/KICK coin will be be a dividend if going by the regulatory norms but even ICOs like Loomia and Utrust have made it a point to not allow US citizens from participating. Was wondering if this will have any legal implications considering how distrustful law enforcement people are against cryptos.

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Quote from: bitcoin-shark on February 17, 2018, 03:19:49 PM

Quote from: CryptoCutie on February 17, 2018, 10:31:53 AM

Hello everybody! You need to know that all unsold during ICO tokens will be burned and EHF tokens will be available
on the crypto-exchange markets since the end of 2018.

this is really good news, this means that the price of tokens will can only grow with time...

absolutely

its time to get ready to buy some ehealth tokens during the sale

for long term hodling.

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Quote from: CryptoCutie on February 17, 2018, 10:31:53 AM

Hello everybody! You need to know that all unsold during ICO tokens will be burned and EHF tokens will be available
on the crypto-exchange markets since the end of 2018.

this is really good news, this means that the price of tokens will can only grow with time...

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Quote from: levyashin on February 17, 2018, 02:07:33 PM

Quote from: MattLeBlanc on February 17, 2018, 01:04:02 PM

I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

I welcome too. And i'm a little selfish about this. I hope they reach only soft cap and project continues with lowest tokens possible

I believe that this is the right decision. This will protect the project from sharp drawdowns of the course and shows that the management is confident in their ideas and will continue to implement all the tasks!

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Quote from: aveon on February 17, 2018, 01:35:02 PM

Quote from: belechau on February 17, 2018, 01:23:58 PM

Quote from: Genesis07 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:43 PM

Quote from: MattLeBlanc on February 17, 2018, 01:04:02 PM

I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

totally, otherwise would be pretty dumb to not burn the unsold tokens after the sale, since the value/fundraised amount of money they did so far, tokens would loose even more on value.

Actually, in view of the success of the sales and everything that the project has achieved so far, both inside and outside the munod crypto, it is a wise decision to record the unsold tokens, one can expect an excellent initial trade, no matter where they come from start it

That's the coin with two sides. Burning unused tokens can be useful in terms of the price of the remaining ones, but it can also be a bad method if these tokens will be needed for some reason. So before burning them, the devs should consider everything thoroughly

I am sure that the decision was made in a balanced manner. And was thought out all the consequences that may occur as a result of these actions.

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Quote from: MattLeBlanc on February 17, 2018, 01:04:02 PM

I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

I welcome too. And i'm a little selfish about this. I hope they reach only soft cap and project continues with lowest tokens possible

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Quote from: belechau on February 17, 2018, 01:23:58 PM

Quote from: Genesis07 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:43 PM

Quote from: MattLeBlanc on February 17, 2018, 01:04:02 PM

I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

totally, otherwise would be pretty dumb to not burn the unsold tokens after the sale, since the value/fundraised amount of money they did so far, tokens would loose even more on value.

Actually, in view of the success of the sales and everything that the project has achieved so far, both inside and outside the munod crypto, it is a wise decision to record the unsold tokens, one can expect an excellent initial trade, no matter where they come from start it

That's the coin with two sides. Burning unused tokens can be useful in terms of the price of the remaining ones, but it can also be a bad method if these tokens will be needed for some reason. So before burning them, the devs should consider everything thoroughly

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Quote from: Genesis07 on February 17, 2018, 01:06:43 PM

Quote from: MattLeBlanc on February 17, 2018, 01:04:02 PM

I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

totally, otherwise would be pretty dumb to not burn the unsold tokens after the sale, since the value/fundraised amount of money they did so far, tokens would loose even more on value.

Actually, in view of the success of the sales and everything that the project has achieved so far, both inside and outside the munod crypto, it is a wise decision to record the unsold tokens, one can expect an excellent initial trade, no matter where they come from start it

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Quote from: MattLeBlanc on February 17, 2018, 01:04:02 PM

I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

totally, otherwise would be pretty dumb to not burn the unsold tokens after the sale, since the value/fundraised amount of money they did so far, tokens would loose even more on value.

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I hearty welcome the decision of burning the unsold tokens. Regardless of how many tokens get sold this will definitely increase the value of the tokens present in the market.

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i see the most videoa are 1 or 2 minutes. Are you sure that you mean the EHF Videos?

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Quote from: hicaribou on February 16, 2018, 06:49:02 PM

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Quote from: Genesis07 on February 16, 2018, 04:38:47 PM

im still waiting for a german translation of the whitepaper but i guess, even if they make it, i wont read it

got better things to do ><"

they should do videos, so people like me, do get more insight on the project, without reading the wp.

That would be a great idea! Projects these days should leverage the power of audio visual tools to maximize exposure.

Actually they've uploaded 13 videos on their channel.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDOXlcfFnSTVRlkqy8kojWA/videos

But i think they should upload more video like this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ebXOmPnUOac
To give more vision about their product.

Most of their videos are short. Many investors are not long time to sit and thoughtfully study these materials. In commercials should be clearly and fundamentally voiced the main goals set by the project, and methods of achieving these goals!

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Quote from: rjp55 on February 17, 2018, 11:39:09 AM

Quote from: king_of_alts on February 17, 2018, 11:32:47 AM

Quote from: Jay2408 on February 17, 2018, 11:08:03 AM

Does this mean there won't be further ICO rounds? Or will unsold tokens only be burned after the 2nd or whatever ICO round?

They have targets for each round to sell. I assume when one round ends the unsold tokens will be burned and the next round will start as planned.

correct me if i say something wrong, they have a target like 100 tokens for round 1, 200 tokens for round 2. they sold around 70 tokens for round 1 and burn the rest,
when round 2 start sell 200 tokens?
(token numbers are example)

good question, i think they have a hardcap for each round and that will not more.

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Quote from: matjas on February 17, 2018, 10:18:36 AM

Quote from: hicaribou on February 16, 2018, 07:19:07 PM

Quote from: saintkamei on February 16, 2018, 07:03:48 PM

Quote from: cevap on February 16, 2018, 05:27:02 AM

Quote from: saintkamei on February 15, 2018, 10:08:47 PM

"The United States of America:
The U.S. citizens and residents could participate in ICOs, but there are novel regulation rules for that.
Participation of U.S. citizens and residents in eHealth First's ICO is not prohibited by the Securities and Exchange Commission ("SEC") or U.S. law. However, despite the recent investigation of The DAO and SEC Report No. 81207 ("SEC Report"), establishing the status of an Initial Coin Offering ("ICO") as "securities" subject to regulation under U.S. law, ICO investors are uncertain, especially with respect to ICO's offered by foreign companies, such as eHealth First.
Basing on the review of the U.S. current legislation, the eHealth First Project Team considers, that the EHF Token isn't a security.
Nevertheless, eHealth First makes no promise of compliance with SEC regulations with regards to this ICO. Although eHealth First fully believes in the innovation and success of this project, it advises all potential investors that ICO investments carry certain risks and uncertainties. U.S. citizens and residents seeking to invest in this ICO are urged to independently assess all emerging risks. We provide the Guide for U.S. investors to help foster understanding of the current legal status of ICOs in the U.S., specifically ICOs offered by foreign companies, but we are not providing legal advice on this subject."

Saw this on the website. Are you suggesting US citizens can legally participate in the ICO should they understand that it is not an IPO equivalent of cryptocurrency?

Basically, yes. If the token is not a security token, technically, the above mentioned rules does not apply, but since many countries still don't have clear rules about cryptocurrency in general and ICOs in particular, investing in ICOs still represents a risk, especially in America.

It is risk alright, whether in US or elsewhere in the world. What I thought was bold of eHealth First is to say you can participate when many ICOs wouldn't. It's a Swiss company registered in EU, would this jeopardise any future operations in the US because it doesn't meet the regulatory diktats on ICOs?

Have they done the test to determine if the token is security or utility, i thought there is a company who want to do it but i forgot the name.

I think that there should be a list of qualities that a token should possess in order to be qualified as a security token. Like paying dividends, for example. I don't think that eHealth token qualifies. It was said somewhere that it's a utility token, no?

The good use case will make good price even if it's not dividend token. There will be demands in token

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Quote from: king_of_alts on February 17, 2018, 11:32:47 AM

Quote from: Jay2408 on February 17, 2018, 11:08:03 AM

Does this mean there won't be further ICO rounds? Or will unsold tokens only be burned after the 2nd or whatever ICO round?

They have targets for each round to sell. I assume when one round ends the unsold tokens will be burned and the next round will start as planned.

correct me if i say something wrong, they have a target like 100 tokens for round 1, 200 tokens for round 2. they sold around 70 tokens for round 1 and burn the rest,
when round 2 start sell 200 tokens?
(token numbers are example)

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Quote from: Jay2408 on February 17, 2018, 11:08:03 AM

Does this mean there won't be further ICO rounds? Or will unsold tokens only be burned after the 2nd or whatever ICO round?

They have targets for each round to sell. I assume when one round ends the unsold tokens will be burned and the next round will start as planned.

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Quote from: jonnytracker on February 17, 2018, 07:55:28 AM

Quote from: Frickeladm on February 17, 2018, 06:08:23 AM

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Quote from: hicaribou on February 17, 2018, 05:31:22 AM

Quote from: cantdecide on February 16, 2018, 09:43:38 AM

Did we got any infos so far if eHealth has a direct connection to SENS?

EHF has no direct connection with SENS due to different products (IT-platform vs. anti-aging drugs and longevity studies).
Aubrey is an Advisor of EHF.

why is SENS mentioned to often here recently? did I miss something? The one is beauty, the other one is health - i cant relate them

It is because SEnS received a bunch of donation from Vitalik Buterin if I am not mistakenly read. And some people want to know if there is a connection between ehealth and sens.

Ah thanks! That makes sense.
Also I just rewatched the presentation video of EHF again (quoted a few posts above) and they specifically mention age-related diseases.

As I stated earlier it's more becoming a research program and moving away from health diagnosis platform

I think research side is more important than health diagnosis side, maybe you can say diagnosis side is more important in third world countries but researchers can cure some deadly diseases and save lives.

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