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sr. member
Activity: 1148
Merit: 269
It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.
yes its now upto officials lets wait and see what is gonna happens
also there will be no bounty payments for bounty hunters
their work is ruined
but still hope for the ICO participants and after good decision participants could get back their money that they spent on envion ICO
every participant realise that they get scammed but they did not lose hope like me
full member
Activity: 387
Merit: 106
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

At the moment everything is stalled and nothing happens as far as the developement of the project is concerned. If this condition won't change, the project is dead. Just as it happens to living creatures. If they don't move for enough time this means they are dead. It is up to the project now to prove that it can eventually resurrect. Full stop.
member
Activity: 476
Merit: 92
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
full member
Activity: 840
Merit: 117
It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.
Yeah now i am silent and waiting for 'FINMA' final statement.
So do you know that when statement will be release by 'FINMA' ??
member
Activity: 291
Merit: 10
the spirit off this project was already gone a long time ago , the team did not do enough to keep that spirit alive , i also invested a little but my hopes are at a minimum at the moment
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1003
It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.

How long we have to wait for this final decision because the founders are also doing the same job like CEO did. Nobody has the accurate info what is going on behind the scene and what plan they have to give relief to all investors because that stupid thing almost ruined the spirit of this project.
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it

Officials will decide who's scammed and who's not.
So let's stop spreading "statements" and wait for FINMA final decisions.
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
It was Most Profitable for the founders and CEO, you guys all got "scammed" and still don't realise it
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
Title of this thread they should remove Most Profitable while it is now 92% down from the initial price too. That is really painful to see how down this is due to greedy team and don't care about the feelings and expectation of the investors.

I think this thread title tells about dividends generated from Envion mining facilities and has nothing to do with EVN token price.
EVN is traded on open markets, same as thousands of other tokens.
And its obvious that EVN price is heavily affected by the current bearish market state.
sr. member
Activity: 952
Merit: 251
Title of this thread they should remove Most Profitable while it is now 92% down from the initial price too. That is really painful to see how down this is due to greedy team and don't care about the feelings and expectation of the investors.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 1166
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million.
But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time.
Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ?  Huh

Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily).
But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project.

I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion.

Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell.

If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated.

What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best.
Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards.  Smiley
Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see!
peoples now write a lot of negativity about project and community is clearly unhappy. Usually in such cases there is little change

As this is a security token, community has nothing to do with the possible future success. It's all in the hands of the FINMA now.
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
Anybody know the latest news about Envion? How far is the case? What with Finma case?

If you know the answers please share, it would be nice to hear some updates. I am banned from Envion Telegram and don't have access to the latest updates. Just waiting for the courts to finish.

Please read carefully what I wrote few post above.
Laurent gives comprehensive answers to your questions.
And check Envion Founders telegram https://t.me/EnvionFounders
full member
Activity: 840
Merit: 117
the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million.
But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time.
Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ?  Huh

Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily).
But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project.

I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion.

Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell.

If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated.

What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best.
Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards.  Smiley
Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see!
peoples now write a lot of negativity about project and community is clearly unhappy. Usually in such cases there is little change
Agree with you some people saying envion project will not survive and few people still believing in this project.
Let's see what will happen next and i am waiting for more updates about envion project.  Smiley 
full member
Activity: 560
Merit: 106
Anybody know the latest news about Envion? How far is the case? What with Finma case?

If you know the answers please share, it would be nice to hear some updates. I am banned from Envion Telegram and don't have access to the latest updates. Just waiting for the courts to finish.

I'm interested too, because it seems that we cannot even trade our tokens anymore.. i don't know the news, but all seems dead from my point of view..
If anyone has some news, would be appreciated here Cheesy
full member
Activity: 476
Merit: 101
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the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million.
But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time.
Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ?  Huh

Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily).
But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project.

I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion.

Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell.

If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated.

What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best.
Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards.  Smiley
Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see!
peoples now write a lot of negativity about project and community is clearly unhappy. Usually in such cases there is little change
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1708
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Anybody know the latest news about Envion? How far is the case? What with Finma case?

If you know the answers please share, it would be nice to hear some updates. I am banned from Envion Telegram and don't have access to the latest updates. Just waiting for the courts to finish.
full member
Activity: 840
Merit: 117
the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million.
But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time.
Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ?  Huh

Envion is not in charge at the moment; FINMA will make the decision on that. I think the Envion founders are hoping that they could carry on the project after the guilty person is charged, But the problem is that the guilty person was the CEO, and if i am being totally honest to myself i can't see any reason why they would deny a refund from people who have invested and not sold (they could track those easily).
But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project.

I understand that the Envion founders would like to take the control back, but the thing is, it could be seen like their actions of choosing the CEO without a good background check would be irresponsible, and therefore Envion founders might not be responsible enough to make future decisions for Envion.

Really scary part is that i don't think that they would refund the tokens bought from the markets; Only the original investors who did a KYC and didn't sell.

If we consider about Ethereum prices, I'm not sure refund is possible. And AFAIK some of the money cashed out early, so things are really complicated.

What causes ENVION to be like this. All become neglected and there is no encouraging news for investors and bounty participants. I myself don't know about this delay, I hope that ENVION will give the best.
Envion Founders still want to run this project? If yes then i am sure envion price will be up and bounty hunters will be receive rewards.  Smiley
Let's hope next month we will see positive news about envion. Many investors still expecting success from this project. Let's see!
full member
Activity: 476
Merit: 101
”Decentralized Digital Billboards”
the money i invested in this project was a lot " for me " , i had very big hopes for this project but it is hard to find any good news about this project , all the last page's are full with negative news , my hope is that you are all wrong but i doubt it
Well if we think about past time when envion ICO finished, i really surprised that envion collected $106 million.
But now many crypto mates lost the trust in new ICO's. As we know that there were overwhelming bounty participants but they waste time.
Now question is.. will envion refund money to investors ?  Huh
New scam ICOS are getting smarter and making better preparation before sales. It's getting harder to find something worthwhile. In addition, the bearish trend makes its own adjustments
yxt
legendary
Activity: 3528
Merit: 1116
But i don't think that it would be full refund and it would kill the whole project.

It will take years to figure that out, lawyers etc will eat much from that 100 million, I assume all the involved guys pay(ed) them self very good also...

The idea behind that ICO was worth 1000USD not more, they had nothing....
One of the founder is known for private bankrupt, that was one reason to use a  outside CEO
 

stay away from this...

told you so...
Maybe I should offer ICO ratings for investors
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
FINMA investigation is still proceeding.

Here is what Laurent says in https://t.me/EnvionFounders

"The FINMA investigation limits our ability to respond on certain topics, but I would direct everyone to the previously published materials which discuss in detail the progress of the company since the start of the project and the status of the ICO funds."

"I reject the implication that the founders are attempting to shrug responsibility off when they have spent an obscene amount of their own money to finance the progress of the company and completion of ICO activities.

Trado and its employees cannot legally communicate or act on behalf of Envion due to an injunction filed by Matthias Woestmann - an injunction which is being appealed. The opposite of not taking responsibility."
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