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sr. member
Activity: 826
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This Project is showing the meaningless hype last year.

A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.

It happening because of early phase of this new era that's why we see people could get succeed to make fool the people easily with fancy whitepaper and attractive looking website and some experienced people. But in future this will get matured and only legit project will survive.

That is also my impression that I have formed over the past 2 years about the scams that exist in the world of crypto projects. Anything to steal your image, many utopias and few professionals capable of implementing a successful project even if they could have billions. Good luck.
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Finally, after 73 years of trust in these Germans, all Jews were robbed of their valuables.Envion headquaters is in Berlin, you can see that they still have the traits of the Nazis  Now that they can steal almost nothing from the Jews, they steal from the crypro investors. Grin Grin





legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
prob a shill.

But its worse then you think apperantly the Founders can see the future because those changes to the contract that enabled them to sell their tokens where made long before the problems started.

Probably a dumper or "true investor".  Wink



Ye dont bother to Fact check anything just keep on dancing to Laurents tune you are on the founders payroll for sure or just completely clueless but im pretty sure its the first one.

legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."
If founders began to sell their tokens before the appointed time is true that this project is a scam. This is the deception of investors

There is no IF it has been admitted by Laurent in the Founders channel with a whole lot of spin about Why that "had" to be done while keeping the investors in the dark.. they are Scum and should all go to jail MW and all the Founders.
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
prob a shill.

But its worse then you think apperantly the Founders can see the future because those changes to the contract that enabled them to sell their tokens where made long before the problems started.

Probably a dumper or "true investor".  Wink
legendary
Activity: 1526
Merit: 1003
This Project is showing the meaningless hype last year.

A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.

It happening because of early phase of this new era that's why we see people could get succeed to make fool the people easily with fancy whitepaper and attractive looking website and some experienced people. But in future this will get matured and only legit project will survive.
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Activity: 602
Merit: 101
Bcnex - The Ultimate Blockchain Trading Platform
This Project is showing the meaningless hype last year.

A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
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Activity: 476
Merit: 101
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Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."
If founders began to sell their tokens before the appointed time is true that this project is a scam. This is the deception of investors
legendary
Activity: 2020
Merit: 1041
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

prob a shill.

But its worse then you think apperantly the Founders can see the future because those changes to the contract that enabled them to sell their tokens where made long before the problems started.





legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1000
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

I think the best place to find answers for all your questions is https://t.me/EnvionFounders

As for me, after tracking hundreds of ICOs since the beginning of 2018 I'm still sure that Envoin holds top position among them.

Whether they overcome the issues with law suits filed on them, what is happening in the background we are not getting any updates because even they are not bothering about the payments to bounty people and till now the spreadsheet is not yet updated?
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?

I think the best place to find answers for all your questions is https://t.me/EnvionFounders

As for me, after tracking hundreds of ICOs since the beginning of 2018 I'm still sure that Envoin holds top position among them.
legendary
Activity: 2744
Merit: 1708
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Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."

From what I understand this is the explanation provided after community finds all about CEO problems and founders sold their tokens which should be closed for a half year.

If this explanation is true why they lie to us for so long?

When we asked about dumped tokens they told us that they don't know who is selling. People provided back then in Telegram group addresses and tx from transactions which shows exactly that these tokens are from founders and sold illegally before fasting period end. They banned this guy and deleted all posts. Now they are coming with new explanations each day.

Where were they in the first 5 months? Why they lied so long?  

I just can't believe that you trust them further. Tell me why?
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.

Founders avoid any comments before FINMA investigation is over and it's obvious why they do.
As for me, I realize that investigation may take months, but I'm still sure that founders team will fight for the project till the very end.

Concerning tokens sold, here is what Laurent says:

"There was a policy not to sell for the founding team tokens.
That policy changed in order to save the company. Those tokens had to be sold when Envion's debts caused an existential crisis. This was done according to consultations with Envion's legal team and in compliance with financial regulations."
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Seems this is was really scam. their last iupdate in twitter on May 20th. But why developers still not in prison? And how MarketCap in this bad market cost 8.5 mln usd in this scam? Who buying this?  Shocked

You should look over the trade volume and active exchanges at the moment in last 24 hours it has only $880 and Yobit is already marked as scam exchange. If you think there is potential to make comeback than you can take risk on this token maybe it will help you in long tern because now this is very risky investment so reward will be more higher if this could happen.

I dont think so. There are a lot of promising and real project which even have more low cap right now. Im just confuse why they have so big cap.
legendary
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Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???
You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential
"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.
I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.
It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.

I wanted to hear your opinion about Envion too because I see your comments and you are an Envion supporter.

Do you still believe the Founders? Will you that they run this company further? Are they trustworthy?

They lied to us, changed the contract illegally, sold tokens which were in fasting period closed and there are many more accusations against them.
copper member
Activity: 588
Merit: 17
Is there any possibility for refund for people who paid with credit card???

You are too late to use this option to take refund it is more than 6 months has passed since this ICO was finished. But this is confirmed this is failed project when attractive whitepaper and only marketing made this possible to steal huge money from people.
this project is as dead as it can be, i wish I could say it wasn't but we have to face the facts. The founders screwed up too hard and now its broken beyond repair. Sad though, with mining costs going through the roof this project had a ton of potential

"confirmed this is failed project" - please share a few confirmations with us.
"project is as dead as it can be" - please share some facts.

I don't understand what you are doing @Thadeous? Do you try to defend Envion project? Why?

Is obvious that Envion is a scam. There are already court cases ongoing and FINMA started an investigation. If there will be no suspicions that this is a scam then there will be no courts involved and everybody will receive their tokens. Bounty is not paid, price crashed, token delisted from the biggest exchange, full of scammers ( founders, CEO). There is nothing left to defend.

Are you defending them or I get you wrong? Please explain.

It's simple: I hate when people spread false statements without proofs.
Personally I think that Envion is a perspective project and hope that founders will win the final battle and be able to continue developing Envion.
sr. member
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why envion disappeared from hitbtc exchange.. any body know about this??
envion founders still replying on telegram ?? if this is a scam then we will not see again envion on hitbtc ..
 

what ? this token disappeared from hitbtc are you serious ?
this is really serious issue with thus project
because in coinmarketcap the last updates of env at hitbtc is about 296 hours ago
em serious!! envion and other tokens disappeared  from hitbtc..
coinmarketcap showing in markets portal but not showing 24h volume ,,, very low volume..


That's why I mentioned that HitBTC issue has nothing to do with Envion.

By the way, Envion (EVN) still trades on Token.store and Yobit:
https://token.store/trade/EVN
https://yobit.net/en/trade/EVN/BTC

nobody buying envion token....there is only 24h volume $1,425 USD...
and price is also decreasing... if we have enough money then we can spend money on envion...
i bought envion month ago i made enough profit and i will try to buy again envion.. 

why would you buy tokens from a project thats technically already confirmed dead? The founders are pretty much gone, and the tokens are virtually worthless
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why envion disappeared from hitbtc exchange.. any body know about this??
envion founders still replying on telegram ?? if this is a scam then we will not see again envion on hitbtc ..
 

what ? this token disappeared from hitbtc are you serious ?
this is really serious issue with thus project
because in coinmarketcap the last updates of env at hitbtc is about 296 hours ago
em serious!! envion and other tokens disappeared  from hitbtc..
coinmarketcap showing in markets portal but not showing 24h volume ,,, very low volume..


That's why I mentioned that HitBTC issue has nothing to do with Envion.

By the way, Envion (EVN) still trades on Token.store and Yobit:
https://token.store/trade/EVN
https://yobit.net/en/trade/EVN/BTC

nobody buying envion token....there is only 24h volume $1,425 USD...
and price is also decreasing... if we have enough money then we can spend money on envion...
i bought envion month ago i made enough profit and i will try to buy again envion.. 
legendary
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Seems this is was really scam. their last iupdate in twitter on May 20th. But why developers still not in prison? And how MarketCap in this bad market cost 8.5 mln usd in this scam? Who buying this?  Shocked

You should look over the trade volume and active exchanges at the moment in last 24 hours it has only $880 and Yobit is already marked as scam exchange. If you think there is potential to make comeback than you can take risk on this token maybe it will help you in long tern because now this is very risky investment so reward will be more higher if this could happen.
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Seems this is was really scam. their last iupdate in twitter on May 20th. But why developers still not in prison? And how MarketCap in this bad market cost 8.5 mln usd in this scam? Who buying this?  Shocked
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