Any reason why they have password protected posts now? And how do you create a password anyway?
https://envion-founders.org/envion-ag-raised-more-than-100-million-among-investors-in-the-euphoria-surrounding-cryptocurrencies-then-the-startup-crashed-into-chaos-a-virtual-thriller/
Topic: [ANN][ICO] «Envion» Most Profitable Self-Expanding Crypto Infrastructure - page 28. (Read 125674 times)
September 01, 2018, 12:41:56 PM
September 01, 2018, 12:30:52 PM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
I know from the first day that this token was seen as security. So why they listed it if this was obvious? Now delisted because of that, just insane and hilarious. I think HitBtc listed it because they thought to make fast money on a scam. Not for the first time of course.
hitbtc knows envion got scammed by envion ceo and they delisted evn from exchange...
there is no chance that founders can save this project ....
September 01, 2018, 11:34:44 AM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
I know from the first day that this token was seen as security. So why they listed it if this was obvious? Now delisted because of that, just insane and hilarious. I think HitBtc listed it because they thought to make fast money on a scam. Not for the first time of course.
August 31, 2018, 05:38:23 AM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.
Also "funny" that it happened right when Finma investigation started looks more like Finma contacted Hitbtc and they responded to be in compliance.
Yeah, one would see a connection on that
I would think that Finma asked to unlist it, not because it was a security, but because it was under investigation and they were seeing that it's probably illegal to trade it now. As the whole token could be worth nothing. August 31, 2018, 04:27:19 AM
Anybody have info what is next step will be of the dev to make it list on any other exchange or we don't have any chance to see this on new exchange. It is long time when token still not trading on any good exchange and the founder is also not interested to take care of this project.
We don't know exactly what happening and no update from the team and even their progress about the project and dividends to the token holders. The announcement will help the community that they have some hope on this project.
August 31, 2018, 04:24:06 AM
Anybody have info what is next step will be of the dev to make it list on any other exchange or we don't have any chance to see this on new exchange. It is long time when token still not trading on any good exchange and the founder is also not interested to take care of this project.
August 31, 2018, 04:07:52 AM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.
Also "funny" that it happened right when Finma investigation started looks more like Finma contacted Hitbtc and they responded to be in compliance.
Also funny that same happened with Universa (UTNP) and Doacademic (MTC) about a month ago, both were desisted from HitBTC.
Finma is so merciless!
August 30, 2018, 10:10:55 PM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.
Also "funny" that it happened right when Finma investigation started looks more like Finma contacted Hitbtc and they responded to be in compliance.
August 30, 2018, 09:44:21 PM
I read an article that this project turned out to be a fraud, I do not know if this is true, if someone knows something, please contact me and confirm this information, it will clear up a lot for me
If you have some time to read more about the situation of Envion here in this pages you will have more information. They are in the some problems in justice about fraudulent emissions of tokens. Good luck
August 30, 2018, 06:07:47 PM
I read an article that this project turned out to be a fraud, I do not know if this is true, if someone knows something, please contact me and confirm this information, it will clear up a lot for me
August 30, 2018, 04:17:03 PM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
Funny because Envion were very clear from the start and admitted it would be a security token. Maybe HitBTC just didn't want to do enough digging. Like reading the whitepaper or something like that.
August 30, 2018, 05:34:43 AM
Concerning why HitBTC delisted Envion (EVN).
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
See Terms of Service:
9. NO OFFER OF SECURITIES
9.1. HitBTC endeavors all possible measures to be sure that crypto assets that are available via the Technology Platform cannot be classified as "security" by SEC and/or other competent national authorities. Moreover, HitBTC represents that it never intended or desired to make tokens and/or coins that can be classified as "security" available via Technology Platform.
9.2. The responsibility for the fact that the instrument cannot be treated as “security” lies with the owner of token and/or coin. If there is any risk or speculations that token and/or coin can be treated as “security”, the Technology Platform reserves the right to prohibit and discontinue any transactions on our Technology Platform with such tokens and/or coins at its sole discretion.
9.3. We follow the best practices to decide whether crypto asset is security or not. However, We give no warranty and/or investment, financial, legal or any other professional advice, that any crypto asset available via our Technology Platform is not a security.
https://hitbtc.com/terms-of-use
August 29, 2018, 09:36:37 PM
This Project is showing the meaningless hype last year.
A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
It happening because of early phase of this new era that's why we see people could get succeed to make fool the people easily with fancy whitepaper and attractive looking website and some experienced people. But in future this will get matured and only legit project will survive.
That is also my impression that I have formed over the past 2 years about the scams that exist in the world of crypto projects. Anything to steal your image, many utopias and few professionals capable of implementing a successful project even if they could have billions. Good luck.
Sometimes it is impossible to guess how the project will scam the innocent investors, some investors still, don't know how to find the best project. How can people steal the investor money without any knowledge about the block chain? Very bad.
Rather than investing in any project, I prefer to choose carefully not only the idea but also the team's professionalism, transparency and product or service before ICO sales. Good luck.
August 29, 2018, 05:02:05 PM
If I buy Aeternity tokens on an exchange, I would then withdraw them to my eth-address right? In which case I would need to also buy enough ether for the gas price?
if you want to send tokens from exchange to on you ether address you don't need to buy ethbut if you want to send token from your eth address to an exchange
or to another address then you need eth for pay the gas price
If aeternity is a ecr20 token then yes, but this is not the thread for Aeternity tokens anyway. So i am not sure why you are talking about it.
August 29, 2018, 04:54:48 PM
If I buy Aeternity tokens on an exchange, I would then withdraw them to my eth-address right? In which case I would need to also buy enough ether for the gas price?
if you want to send tokens from exchange to on you ether address you don't need to buy ethbut if you want to send token from your eth address to an exchange
or to another address then you need eth for pay the gas price
August 29, 2018, 12:27:59 PM
If I buy Aeternity tokens on an exchange, I would then withdraw them to my eth-address right? In which case I would need to also buy enough ether for the gas price?
August 29, 2018, 11:49:20 AM
This Project is showing the meaningless hype last year.
A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
It happening because of early phase of this new era that's why we see people could get succeed to make fool the people easily with fancy whitepaper and attractive looking website and some experienced people. But in future this will get matured and only legit project will survive.
That is also my impression that I have formed over the past 2 years about the scams that exist in the world of crypto projects. Anything to steal your image, many utopias and few professionals capable of implementing a successful project even if they could have billions. Good luck.
Sometimes it is impossible to guess how the project will scam the innocent investors, some investors still, don't know how to find the best project. How can people steal the investor money without any knowledge about the block chain? Very bad.
We just see that how much they have collected funds so far but now we know that where we have to invest and where we shouldn't.. 👍
August 29, 2018, 04:03:02 AM
If they were not having internal disputes among founders then they altogether were playing with investors. None of the party was sincere and transparent from start and neither now they are. Damage to this project is too big to be cured. After all trust is everything once it has gone nothing left probably that's why they don't want own anymore this project. These are hard facts and may people started to realize it.
There is a difference between not being transparent and just blatant LIES they have proven again and again that it was a mistake to trust them with our money.
If i tell you that everything is running and fine while i sell my "locked" tokens on the open market , that has nothing to do with beeing transparent thats a crime.
August 29, 2018, 03:03:27 AM
If they were not having internal disputes among founders then they altogether were playing with investors. None of the party was sincere and transparent from start and neither now they are. Damage to this project is too big to be cured. After all trust is everything once it has gone nothing left probably that's why they don't want own anymore this project. These are hard facts and may people started to realize it.
August 28, 2018, 09:56:29 PM
This Project is showing the meaningless hype last year.
A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
A company so problematic, can reach 100m $ and in return stupid law suits.
It happening because of early phase of this new era that's why we see people could get succeed to make fool the people easily with fancy whitepaper and attractive looking website and some experienced people. But in future this will get matured and only legit project will survive.
That is also my impression that I have formed over the past 2 years about the scams that exist in the world of crypto projects. Anything to steal your image, many utopias and few professionals capable of implementing a successful project even if they could have billions. Good luck.
Sometimes it is impossible to guess how the project will scam the innocent investors, some investors still, don't know how to find the best project. How can people steal the investor money without any knowledge about the block chain? Very bad.
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