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sr. member
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Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.

It's not a scam project, but rather we are getting lied to with false promises of exchange listing and voting results. I bet there is still currently no top5 exchange. Why would the top5 exchange not list us within 3 montsh? As said before, either there is no top5 exchange or Savedroid got rejected after the PR scam stunt. They are simply now buying time to get listed on another top 5 exchange while at the same time not willing to pay for the listing as required. Binance listing usually costs a few millions. Savedroid probably is willing to pay them 10k or so. I don't believe that we are getting listed in june or july. Savedroid turned in the telegram group already to the synonyms "Whendroid" and "Scamdroid". Totally deserved in my opinion.

yes of course they are rejected by top 5 exchange after the PR scam stunt
i dont know what the soondroid team is thinking about why still have to lock the SVD token until now
if they do not want to pay the binance listing fees that require millions of dollars, they can still nominate savedroid through Community Coin of the Month
give SVD community some BNB to vote, simple..... EZ money EZ life


Binance is not their best shot:

"(...) We don’t like big ICOs. If you do a big ICO, be prepare to pay a large % of coins as insurance deposit and listing fee.

We don’t like teams that hype too much. There is a fine line between aggressive marketing and hyping. We want to see teams hunkering down, working hard and delivering value; not teams who do great marketing to put on a show, but gets no development work done. The later one will just create a spike in price (not value) and eventually go back down to zero; the former one will create lasting value.

We don’t like teams that can’t keep their promises. If you make a promise, you keep it. Don’t “adjust” your roadmap too often.

We forbid the following:

We do not accept teams who publicly speculate on price or make predictions or forecasts on their token’s price.

We do not accept teams using the Binance name for their gains without our consent. These include guys who say they “will list on, targets to be on, is a partner of” Binance without our explicit consent, in the hope to boost their credibility and coin price.  (...)"

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/binance-listing-tips-changpeng-zhao




Yea soondroid allready violate many binance listing rules, so binance must be rejected soondroid application, and also other top 5 must be reject soondroid too, bottom 100 exchange maybe can accept soondroid

We must not expect that savedroid will be listed on a major exchanges. With the teams performance, they really dont qualify to major exchange's policies.. but i do hope they will not be listed on a no bolume exchange too.
full member
Activity: 416
Merit: 100
Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.

It's not a scam project, but rather we are getting lied to with false promises of exchange listing and voting results. I bet there is still currently no top5 exchange. Why would the top5 exchange not list us within 3 montsh? As said before, either there is no top5 exchange or Savedroid got rejected after the PR scam stunt. They are simply now buying time to get listed on another top 5 exchange while at the same time not willing to pay for the listing as required. Binance listing usually costs a few millions. Savedroid probably is willing to pay them 10k or so. I don't believe that we are getting listed in june or july. Savedroid turned in the telegram group already to the synonyms "Whendroid" and "Scamdroid". Totally deserved in my opinion.

yes of course they are rejected by top 5 exchange after the PR scam stunt
i dont know what the soondroid team is thinking about why still have to lock the SVD token until now
if they do not want to pay the binance listing fees that require millions of dollars, they can still nominate savedroid through Community Coin of the Month
give SVD community some BNB to vote, simple..... EZ money EZ life


Binance is not their best shot:

"(...) We don’t like big ICOs. If you do a big ICO, be prepare to pay a large % of coins as insurance deposit and listing fee.

We don’t like teams that hype too much. There is a fine line between aggressive marketing and hyping. We want to see teams hunkering down, working hard and delivering value; not teams who do great marketing to put on a show, but gets no development work done. The later one will just create a spike in price (not value) and eventually go back down to zero; the former one will create lasting value.

We don’t like teams that can’t keep their promises. If you make a promise, you keep it. Don’t “adjust” your roadmap too often.

We forbid the following:

We do not accept teams who publicly speculate on price or make predictions or forecasts on their token’s price.

We do not accept teams using the Binance name for their gains without our consent. These include guys who say they “will list on, targets to be on, is a partner of” Binance without our explicit consent, in the hope to boost their credibility and coin price.  (...)"

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/binance-listing-tips-changpeng-zhao




Yea soondroid allready violate many binance listing rules, so binance must be rejected soondroid application, and also other top 5 must be reject soondroid too, bottom 100 exchange maybe can accept soondroid
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.

It's not a scam project, but rather we are getting lied to with false promises of exchange listing and voting results. I bet there is still currently no top5 exchange. Why would the top5 exchange not list us within 3 montsh? As said before, either there is no top5 exchange or Savedroid got rejected after the PR scam stunt. They are simply now buying time to get listed on another top 5 exchange while at the same time not willing to pay for the listing as required. Binance listing usually costs a few millions. Savedroid probably is willing to pay them 10k or so. I don't believe that we are getting listed in june or july. Savedroid turned in the telegram group already to the synonyms "Whendroid" and "Scamdroid". Totally deserved in my opinion.

yes of course they are rejected by top 5 exchange after the PR scam stunt
i dont know what the soondroid team is thinking about why still have to lock the SVD token until now
if they do not want to pay the binance listing fees that require millions of dollars, they can still nominate savedroid through Community Coin of the Month
give SVD community some BNB to vote, simple..... EZ money EZ life


Binance is not their best shot:

"(...) We don’t like big ICOs. If you do a big ICO, be prepare to pay a large % of coins as insurance deposit and listing fee.

We don’t like teams that hype too much. There is a fine line between aggressive marketing and hyping. We want to see teams hunkering down, working hard and delivering value; not teams who do great marketing to put on a show, but gets no development work done. The later one will just create a spike in price (not value) and eventually go back down to zero; the former one will create lasting value.

We don’t like teams that can’t keep their promises. If you make a promise, you keep it. Don’t “adjust” your roadmap too often.

We forbid the following:

We do not accept teams who publicly speculate on price or make predictions or forecasts on their token’s price.

We do not accept teams using the Binance name for their gains without our consent. These include guys who say they “will list on, targets to be on, is a partner of” Binance without our explicit consent, in the hope to boost their credibility and coin price.  (...)"

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/binance-listing-tips-changpeng-zhao


full member
Activity: 546
Merit: 102
Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.

It's not a scam project, but rather we are getting lied to with false promises of exchange listing and voting results. I bet there is still currently no top5 exchange. Why would the top5 exchange not list us within 3 montsh? As said before, either there is no top5 exchange or Savedroid got rejected after the PR scam stunt. They are simply now buying time to get listed on another top 5 exchange while at the same time not willing to pay for the listing as required. Binance listing usually costs a few millions. Savedroid probably is willing to pay them 10k or so. I don't believe that we are getting listed in june or july. Savedroid turned in the telegram group already to the synonyms "Whendroid" and "Scamdroid". Totally deserved in my opinion.

yes of course they are rejected by top 5 exchange after the PR scam stunt
i dont know what the soondroid team is thinking about why still have to lock the SVD token until now
if they do not want to pay the binance listing fees that require millions of dollars, they can still nominate savedroid through Community Coin of the Month
give SVD community some BNB to vote, simple..... EZ money EZ life
legendary
Activity: 1960
Merit: 1128
@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.
I'm not a lawyer, but as far I know now the refund depends only on their desire or perhaps, a collective lawsuit against them will force to do it.

SADLY, in german law there is no way for a collective lawsuit. Everyone has to set up his very own lawsuit on it's own....

But maybe there are other ways to achieve a somewhat similar case..

Dunno, i have ideas and hope to be able to get them up and running, exactly for this type of mess..

hacky


They should have agreed to refund those who want out right after their PR-Stunt. Now it may be too late and probably it would need a gathering of Investors to convince them. I don't believe they will ever agree, probably not even if 90% of their Investors would demand that.

But sure, it still would be the right thing to do and it would be in the Interest of all Investors, because those who would be refunded would not have to dump on exchanges. And Savedroid would have to burn refunded SVD's of course, to reduce the total supply that is overvalued either way and would also be overvalued if they wouldn't have done their PR-Stunt.

Question really is, why it should be right that they have the real money safe while those who believed in them sit on tokens after all that and can't even move them.
copper member
Activity: 282
Merit: 111
Doing cryptocurrency stuff since 2010.
@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.
I'm not a lawyer, but as far I know now the refund depends only on their desire or perhaps, a collective lawsuit against them will force to do it.

SADLY, in german law there is no way for a collective lawsuit. Everyone has to set up his very own lawsuit on it's own....

But maybe there are other ways to achieve a somewhat similar case..

Dunno, i have ideas and hope to be able to get them up and running, exactly for this type of mess..

hacky
member
Activity: 574
Merit: 12
@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.
I'm not a lawyer, but as far I know now the refund depends only on their desire or perhaps, a collective lawsuit against them will force to do it.
newbie
Activity: 224
Merit: 0
Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.

It's not a scam project, but rather we are getting lied to with false promises of exchange listing and voting results. I bet there is still currently no top5 exchange. Why would the top5 exchange not list us within 3 montsh? As said before, either there is no top5 exchange or Savedroid got rejected after the PR scam stunt. They are simply now buying time to get listed on another top 5 exchange while at the same time not willing to pay for the listing as required. Binance listing usually costs a few millions. Savedroid probably is willing to pay them 10k or so. I don't believe that we are getting listed in june or july. Savedroid turned in the telegram group already to the synonyms "Whendroid" and "Scamdroid". Totally deserved in my opinion.
newbie
Activity: 80
Merit: 0
Savedroid is not a scam, it is more your used car salesman, rather than your friendly nigerian letter writer.

Best thing for Savedroid now would be to change CEO, and bring in a professional who could work to rebuild confidence.
At the end of the day, they have the money, an audience, the project could be pivoted into something that is working.

Since the team themselves probably have a lot of token it would benefit them as well, 


Impossible to change CEO since yassin is head of this scam project, just stop thinking this project and move on, there is no future, if you want take action find a good lawyer and fight for refund since money still in escrow
newbie
Activity: 8
Merit: 0
Savedroid is not a scam, it is more your used car salesman, rather than your friendly nigerian letter writer.

Best thing for Savedroid now would be to change CEO, and bring in a professional who could work to rebuild confidence.
At the end of the day, they have the money, an audience, the project could be pivoted into something that is working.

Since the team themselves probably have a lot of token it would benefit them as well, 
member
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KUWA.ai
Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.

i hope this is not a scam project, they promise to us to list this token in 5 exchanges, i think they still work hard for it, let we give them a chance until the end of this month.
full member
Activity: 532
Merit: 100
Im starting to believe this is scam project..and the team it will always defend that this is not scam but they cant prove it.because they have no plans to list it.
copper member
Activity: 282
Merit: 111
Doing cryptocurrency stuff since 2010.
@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.

If it's not possible to legally force them to refund those who would want that, they won't do it.

One thing about Savedroid is obvious: They like it very much to point on others, on the greed and the lack of sustainability in the market, on the high listing prices on certain exchanges which are economically not rational out of Savedroid-perspective but "moon-prices". They like it to talk about transparency and educating others, they like to present themselves as serious and reputable.

But....

They used the ICO-Hype to make as much money as possible, they used everything to hype ("Top5-Exchange secured!" - "it's possible to invest with many other cryptocurrencies" - "here is a price-prediction chart" - "made in Germany" etc.) while they could never explain why a little Startup that wants to develop an App needs more money as many of the projects who are leading today (Ethereum, Neo, Binance, etc.)

They could never explain why their token-economy could ever be worth the high price they've already given it during the ICO. And just btw: They also don't give numbers about the burning-rate while they like it to let their Investors believe that the burning will give real value to the token while the whole company is not near to be worth what they got in the ICO.

They could never explain how it's possible to be sure that their PR-Stunt would not have bad impact on the future price - which Yassin said in an interview.

And when it's about transparency.... what do they let their Investors know? Whenever it's about the important aspects they simply say "trust us".

Any informations about Exchange-Listing? --> "trust us"
How much SVD will be burned of each fee? --> "a certain percentage, just trust us"
Do you really need that much money? --> "trust us"
Was the exchange-voting legtit? ---> "trust us"
How did you come to the price-chart? How was it calculated? --> "trust us"
The PR-Stunt will not have bad effect for the price? ---> "trust us"
etc...




They have the real money now and it's naive to believe that hypocrites like that will give any of that back if they have the chance to keep it. Otherwise they would have refunded already because many wanted that the day after their PR-Stunt. But, what was their reason again?

"The project did not change."

And that's true, because already long before their PR-Stunt, during their ICO, there have been red flags.

 

 

On top of all that, the Savedroid AG actually hast 3 members on their executive board. All three of them are in/on there _with their very own companies_, 2 GmbH (equivalent to an US LLC) and Hankir himself with another AG (Aktiengesellschaft)
(corporation/inc.).

So they simply need to start to send themself some invoices....... aaaaaaand....

It's looking really crazy when you just lift the blanket on top of that mess.........

Hacky
legendary
Activity: 1960
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@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.

If it's not possible to legally force them to refund those who would want that, they won't do it.

One thing about Savedroid is obvious: They like it very much to point on others, on the greed and the lack of sustainability in the market, on the high listing prices on certain exchanges which are economically not rational out of Savedroid-perspective but "moon-prices". They like it to talk about transparency and educating others, they like to present themselves as serious and reputable.

But....

They used the ICO-Hype to make as much money as possible, they used everything to hype ("Top5-Exchange secured!" - "it's possible to invest with many other cryptocurrencies" - "here is a price-prediction chart" - "made in Germany" etc.) while they could never explain why a little Startup that wants to develop an App needs more money as many of the projects who are leading today (Ethereum, Neo, Binance, etc.)

They could never explain why their token-economy could ever be worth the high price they've already given it during the ICO. And just btw: They also don't give numbers about the burning-rate while they like it to let their Investors believe that the burning will give real value to the token while the whole company is not near to be worth what they got in the ICO.

They could never explain how it's possible to be sure that their PR-Stunt would not have bad impact on the future price - which Yassin said in an interview.

And when it's about transparency.... what do they let their Investors know? Whenever it's about the important aspects they simply say "trust us".

Any informations about Exchange-Listing? --> "trust us"
How much SVD will be burned of each fee? --> "a certain percentage, just trust us"
Do you really need that much money? --> "trust us"
Was the exchange-voting legtit? ---> "trust us"
How did you come to the price-chart? How was it calculated? --> "trust us"
The PR-Stunt will not have bad effect for the price? ---> "trust us"
etc...




They have the real money now and it's naive to believe that hypocrites like that will give any of that back if they have the chance to keep it. Otherwise they would have refunded already because many wanted that the day after their PR-Stunt. But, what was their reason again?

"The project did not change."

And that's true, because already long before their PR-Stunt, during their ICO, there have been red flags.

 

 
newbie
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@ NakiRR

Where is this "rule", which makes it impossible to refund investors, coming from?

If until today they haven't spent a lot of the funds for their project, it should still be available on their wallets. And if they have full access to it, they theoretically could refund investors maybe by about 90%...i don't get it where the problem is.

Still waiting for an official giving a statement to this.
member
Activity: 574
Merit: 12
I have to repeat myself! And i don't care whether my proposal suits savedroid's plans (since they don't even show any reaction to it). They fooled their community and investors in a dramatic manner. By just continueing the way they do right now (playing for time with the hope everything calms down and will be forgotten), they make things even worse.

So.....

Refund investors! Every investor should have the possibility to apply for a refund...

I think until now only a small part of the funds has been already spent for project related things, so it should be possible to refund an investor by his application for almost 100% by return of his SVD Tokens.

This is the only honorable and legitimate way to handle this situation.

It would be the proof of a good will and would represent a true excuse by savedroid and its team. This way savedroid takes full responsibility for its actions and decisions and has at least the chance to regain trust.


Maybe someone can initiate a petition/survey about a possible refund and help spreading it among all investors ?


Refund is possible in case of insuccessfuly ICO, in case of savedroid it is not, so no one can claim refund, sorry buddy, i'm on your side but that was a risk as any another ICO.
hero member
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

They promise max 6 weeks after vote for top 5 exchange, if not we all must take action againts this savedroid team for their shit work


Exactly !  They said  4-6 weeks.  That's why yesterday i said 27 days passed.
Maybe we need to wait a little longer, before the end of the month there should be an announcement regarding the exchange.
I know a lot of people here are very excited, some are excited to dump and some are excited to buy the cheapest coin once dump happy.
IMO, if we will be in top 5 exchange, it would help the price to be stable as investors will live the move.
newbie
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

They promise max 6 weeks after vote for top 5 exchange, if not we all must take action againts this savedroid team for their shit work


Exactly !  They said  4-6 weeks.  That's why yesterday i said 27 days passed.
newbie
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?

They promise max 6 weeks after vote for top 5 exchange, if not we all must take action againts this savedroid team for their shit work
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1039
Bitcoin Trader
Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?
i don't see savedroid in blockfolio, so it's probably locked and not being traded anywhere at this moment.
yes you are right their tokens are still locked up and have not gotten any news from them when the tokens are unlocked, so how does all the community here announce the trade while the token is still locked
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