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legendary
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?
i don't see savedroid in blockfolio, so it's probably locked and not being traded anywhere at this moment.
hero member
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

When (untill which date) they proised top exchanges? Tokens still locked or thet trading on decentralized exchanges like Delta and Idex?
newbie
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Just want to let you know,  27 days passed since vote result.  Are you ready for top 5 exchange?   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008
newbie
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What a mess you got yourself into savedroid
full member
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People allready know that this savedroid dev team is greedy just want to take $$$ from investor pocket, they dont care about investor, they just buying time delay everything just want to wait escrow release their money, after escrow release money im sure they will fucking gone, they just a bunch of scammer especially dr porn yassin and tobias, both of them CES ( chief executive scammer )

nice thought
i think your opinion is correct
they just delay everything then officially a scam
...and it's officially GONE...
copper member
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Doing cryptocurrency stuff since 2010.
I suppose this project is very good and good.

I think, you don't know what you're talking about.

No offense included. Wink

Hacky
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A good trade method by suggesting a variety of comfort, convenience, conveniences and lower costs than other trades will make a difficult competition in the stock exchanges for crypto players.
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I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake.
https://i.imgur.com/rUulWpw.jpg

You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet.

But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain...

1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO
2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw)
3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number
4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust


So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked...

- if there are numbers
- if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume
- about the expected burn rate etc.

Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned

That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-)


Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.





I also noticed that they can't handle critism well, especially in the german group. I'm german myself, so I kinda followed all the discussions. It is funny to see the same people that 2 months ago defended Savedroid now slowly are moving to the critism side. I did support the project in the beginning, but I changed my attitude thanks to the worst marketing and worst promises ever. Gonna sell my tokens and leave. I'm pretty sure the price will be way lower than 0.01$. I expect something in the 0.005$ range or lower since the token has no value and only lies so far. The sneakpeak announced won't change anything. One of the worst updates ever. See you around christmas when it is still not listed haha
newbie
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I suppose this project is very good and good.
newbie
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People allready know that this savedroid dev team is greedy just want to take $$$ from investor pocket, they dont care about investor, they just buying time delay everything just want to wait escrow release their money, after escrow release money im sure they will fucking gone, they just a bunch of scammer especially dr porn yassin and tobias, both of them CES ( chief executive scammer )
newbie
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Guys, it looks like we ended up in a huge German trap called savedroid. I always considered the Germans tactful, correct and very organized people and did not expect such a dirty trick from the German project. The first bells started appearing back in March when they began to postpone the distribution of tokens, and after 3 months, when the trap slammed, you can not do anything. The team of savedroid treats their investors as animals, who should not know anything, deception at the ICO stage. should not ask unnecessary questions, or even better if they dont asked any questions at all. Tokens are locked, there are no stock exchanges, some bans in the telegram group, justifying this FUD towards the project. The saddest thing is that we can not do anything about it, we can only wait, from time to time listening to lies from the team savedroid.(as it was with the vote on the listing on exchanges)

 P. S. Dr. Yassin Hankir if you read this, then you should be ashamed. If you do not want to pay for the listing on exchanges, you should have a DECRED level project. Unfortunately on this level you can not ever rise.


Dr. Yassin Hankir ?  Are you sure he is a Dr?  Huh He is just a thief.

1-  Fake vote result  https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008   , check real one here:
https://www.poll-maker.com/results1957824x0Ce94B11-53#tab-2


2- They said, "Currently investigating a minting issue, relevant for <1% of all tokens. Will announce details and solution in the next AMA before trading start."  https://www.reddit.com/r/savedroid_ico/comments/8goxr6/currently_investigating_a_minting_issue_relevant/

But check here. This is only first 250 holders and as you know, there is 35000 investors, so is it really <1% ?  I think it's more than 10%


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3- After fake voting still they can not confirm any time for listing.  They said option top 5  has been won. And it's time is 4-6 weeks. 
4 weeks is minimum time which is 28 days
6 weeks is maximum time which is 42 days. 

26 days passed https://twitter.com/savedroidAG/status/996390795711275008

But here is their joke:
"We can not confirm a listing time as already stated several times, as it's not our call when the top5 exchange is ready. It's their policies, that's why we asked the community if we shall wait or not."

"We're currently orchestrating all exchanges for a joined start date. Will let you know as soon as that is confirmed."



"Ongoing talks with further exchanges, listing fees remain extremely high, we will only accept economically favorable terms"





4- Also read this post :  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36778043




hero member
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Guys, it looks like we ended up in a huge German trap called savedroid. I always considered the Germans tactful, correct and very organized people and did not expect such a dirty trick from the German project. The first bells started appearing back in March when they began to postpone the distribution of tokens, and after 3 months, when the trap slammed, you can not do anything. The team of savedroid treats their investors as animals, who should not know anything, deception at the ICO stage. should not ask unnecessary questions, or even better if they dont asked any questions at all. Tokens are locked, there are no stock exchanges, some bans in the telegram group, justifying this FUD towards the project. The saddest thing is that we can not do anything about it, we can only wait, from time to time listening to lies from the team savedroid.(as it was with the vote on the listing on exchanges)

 P. S. Dr. Yassin Hankir if you read this, then you should be ashamed. If you do not want to pay for the listing on exchanges, you should have a DECRED level project. Unfortunately on this level you can not ever rise.
legendary
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I've written a demand in telegram, waiting for your return

Thanks a lot! But honestly... that's not the right place for me. I don't think that I want to discuss there anymore because I don't like this whole attitude of pretending openness, all the nice talk and saying "critique is welcomed" while that is actually not the case. Some days ago I already was set on "read only", just because I replied on an admin who basically said "critique is welcomed but not this one" with the question which critique is allowed --> silenced ;-)

Before that I asked the Admin "what was wrong what I said?" and he replied with "enough!". That's such a low level and I don't like to be in a position that others have the power to make arbitrarily decisions to silence those who come up with arguments and fundamental questions.

 
newbie
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I've written a demand in telegram, waiting for your return
legendary
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You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet.

But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain...

1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO
2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw)
3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number
4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust


So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked...

- if there are numbers
- if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume
- about the expected burn rate etc.

Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned

That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-)


Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.



Yeah, i got banned from the german group almost immediately.

After i asked one of the new admins why, i was told, there was a internal discussion about me and the conclusion was, because i'm not invested at all, i show a lack of objectivity towards the project.
So they decided it would be better for the project, if i'm not allowed to be there.

Funny though, i'm still on the official ICO group and still able to write there...

Well..... nuff said...

Hacky


I'm also still on the official/english channel. But actually I believed it would be possible to talk about certain things a bit deeper on the german group than it's possible on the english channel, on which the only talk seems to be "when exchange" - "we don't know". It's so damn superficial there while the german group seemed not to be that way first. But it seems that a deeper dive into the fundamentals is not well received anywhere.

But, I don't take it personal. In my opinion it's the weakness of the project, all the weird team-decisions and contradictions, the lack of transparency and actual facts about important aspects, what simply overwhelms those who communicate in favor of this project. If confronted with all of that, they can not really reply with arguments, but if they can't reply it would make those weaknesses obvious, so they try to find reasons to shut down fundamental and critical discussions.

Isn't it ironic as well: Savedroid wanted attention, wanted to educate, warn and start discussion about the whole Crypto-space and the topics:

1) transparency and a lack of
2) economical sustainability and a lack of
3) honesty and a lack of
4) greed
5) hype etc.

But obviously they prefer theoretical discussions about "everything" that is not Savedroid while the look into the mirror scares them. ;-)
 
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I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake.


You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet.

But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain...

1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO
2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw)
3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number
4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust


So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked...

- if there are numbers
- if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume
- about the expected burn rate etc.

Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned

That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-)


Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.



Yeah, i got banned from the german group almost immediately.

After i asked one of the new admins why, i was told, there was a internal discussion about me and the conclusion was, because i'm not invested at all, i show a lack of objectivity towards the project.
So they decided it would be better for the project, if i'm not allowed to be there.

Funny though, i'm still on the official ICO group and still able to write there...

Well..... nuff said...

Hacky
legendary
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I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake.


You are not the only one. I was banned on the german Savedroid-Channel today what was kind of funny. Actually it was a good discussion first. I was critical but didn't spread FUD, didn't attack anyone personal (and clearly said that it's not my intention to do that), I even said some positive things as well and it was totally on topic, about fundamental aspects of the project. But after some time an Admin asked me to stop and since the discussion was pretty much over anyway, I was quiet.

But some hours later I recognize that another Admin quoted a post of mine in which I had expressed my critique that Savedroid pinned the Price-Simulation on the webpage, but without giving any transparency how they come to those conclusions, also that it's my impression that no one who believes and supports the project seems to be able to explain...

1) why Savedroid wanted and got so much money in the ICO
2) why the total value of SVD should be that high and why (much higher than the value of the whole company btw)
3) what the burn rate will be, because I've never seen any number
4) why nobody of those who believe in the project seem to be able to come up with fundamental arguments instead simply ask critiques to be quiet and/or asking others just to have trust


So this Admin quoted my post, and linked a screenshot to the whitepaper which shows a basic explanation how they came to the chart - but without giving any numbers. I explained again that I know the explanation but that it doesn't say anything and asked...

- if there are numbers
- if Savedroid provided informations about the expected volume
- about the expected burn rate etc.

Then another guy replied on my post and I replied on him, even said something positive (that I'm not critical about the concept in general but about some certain aspects which I pointed out). After a few minutes when I looked again: Banned

That's ironic. Earlier I had agreed to stop and I was quiet, but I made the mistake to believe that it's okay to reply if somebody quotes me, including an Admin. But... that already seems to be enough to get kicked there without any explanation or a warning. ;-)


Many got kicked btw. They prefer their little fish-bowl-echo-chamber and probably they even prefer all the guys who constantly ask when it will hit the exchange instead of really discussing the fundamentals of this project.



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I just got banned from telegram because I said that even the admins there are fake.
https://i.imgur.com/rUulWpw.jpg
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Savedroid team don't want to spend money and here the problem started. They have impression they will remain with less money and think this is their money why to loose from this few hundred thousands dollars. They were not going to deliver anyway but at least people could be happy seeing them honoring their promises. They didn't play correctly from the start and are doing foul after foul.
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