[ANN][ICO] SKINCOIN - CRYPTOCURRENCY FOR eSPORTS INDUSTRY - page 62.

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Quote from: johnsmith1023 on June 19, 2017, 07:05:37 AM

Quote from: babskley on June 19, 2017, 06:58:27 AM

Quote from: johnsmith1023 on June 19, 2017, 06:12:24 AM

Btw what will happen if Valve shut down the item market based on the lawsuit you refer to in the white paper?

All is lost?

I'm very appreciate that you registred on Bitcointalk to write in this thread, but I think you don't get the idea

. This market will live anyway as we going to change skins turnover to SkinCoin. If you are in business, you have to understand that no one site will close with such loyal and huge audience, they will found new way - and this way SkinCoin.
If you asking about technical details, you can check our current projects in this area. We have great back-end and UI/UX design for all of them, cause we know how to develop it and be friendly for ended-users.

p.s. Honestly, it seems to me that you are one of those who understand the real potential of this idea, but regrets that this market will not be changed by him (due to lack of resources, skills, team, development).

Yes, I understand this market and this is why I would not want to hold millions worth of skins on behalf of someone else. If Valve risks losing lawsuit against Washington State, they might be forced to agree to close the APIs. What then? I think that won't happen, but it could.

My questions are really about the skincoin itself-- How will the skincoin work? Will it live on the ethereum network? Who will cover tx fees? Will you charge tx fees? How will your bots work? How can skincoin owners know the underlying asset - skins - are actually there?

I got you. Steam API don't needed for Skincoin transactions. Skincoin live on the ethereum network. Tx fees will pay to ethereum miners, who confirm all transactions in ethereum network.

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What is the major difference between previous websites you already working? I hear one of your members told some websites collected more than 10 millions profits. You are making good money with those sites but why again you need investments for this Skincoin ICO. Is there any special reason behind it or so what are the other benefits you are going to provide for the investors other than games.

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Quote from: babskley on June 19, 2017, 06:58:27 AM

Quote from: johnsmith1023 on June 19, 2017, 06:12:24 AM

Btw what will happen if Valve shut down the item market based on the lawsuit you refer to in the white paper?

All is lost?

I'm very appreciate that you registred on Bitcointalk to write in this thread, but I think you don't get the idea

. This market will live anyway as we going to change skins turnover to SkinCoin. If you are in business, you have to understand that no one site will close with such loyal and huge audience, they will found new way - and this way SkinCoin.
If you asking about technical details, you can check our current projects in this area. We have great back-end and UI/UX design for all of them, cause we know how to develop it and be friendly for ended-users.

p.s. Honestly, it seems to me that you are one of those who understand the real potential of this idea, but regrets that this market will not be changed by him (due to lack of resources, skills, team, development).

Yes, I understand this market and this is why I would not want to hold millions worth of skins on behalf of someone else. If Valve risks losing lawsuit against Washington State, they might be forced to agree to close the APIs. What then? I think that won't happen, but it could.

My questions are really about the skincoin itself-- How will the skincoin work? Will it live on the ethereum network? Who will cover tx fees? Will you charge tx fees? How will your bots work? How can skincoin owners know the underlying asset - skins - are actually there?

babskley

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Quote from: johnsmith1023 on June 19, 2017, 06:12:24 AM

Btw what will happen if Valve shut down the item market based on the lawsuit you refer to in the white paper?

All is lost?

I'm very appreciate that you registred on Bitcointalk to write in this thread, but I think you don't get the idea

. This market will live anyway as we going to change skins turnover to SkinCoin. If you are in business, you have to understand that no one site will close with such loyal and huge audience, they will found new way - and this way SkinCoin.
If you asking about technical details, you can check our current projects in this area. We have great back-end and UI/UX design for all of them, cause we know how to develop it and be friendly for ended-users.

p.s. Honestly, it seems to me that you are one of those who understand the real potential of this idea, but regrets that this market will not be changed by him (due to lack of resources, skills, team, development).

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Btw what will happen if Valve shut down the item market based on the lawsuit you refer to in the white paper?

All is lost?

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Quote from: babskley on June 19, 2017, 05:47:35 AM

Quote from: inoes on June 19, 2017, 04:52:49 AM

too much people cant believe for this project :/
dev you need make it clear before ico is full open to public. maybe another escrow without smart contract ETH its good move i think.

Hi, you have to check our main social community Slack (slack.skincoin.org) to be sure that a lot of people interested in this ICO, not only people from "crypto industry". We start getting offers from eSports gaming industry to participate on it and add SkinCoin as payment method on it. You just have to open your eyes more wide for this vision.
Smart-contract is the most conviniant method basically means that you have full control over your tokens. You will get SKIN token instantly after sending ETH. Once the set of smart contracts is deployed on the Ethereum blockchain, nobody can modify the code. That is, it lives and autonomously runs on the blockchain.

What you're talking about could be solved by creating a coin on waves. Of course users would have full control over the token itself - that's not the question! The question is, how will the skincoin generate revenue? How is it transacted? Is it built on the ethereum network? Is it a blockchain? Will skin transactions be visible and auditable by the public? Do you even know how cryptos work?

You have provided ZERO technical detail, all I see is "esports is big, lets make money!!" without even addressing how you will outcompete Opskins, Lootmarket and others who not only offer a token in return but USD to Paypal (much easier for user than learn cryptos, get your token, convert to BTC/ETH, learn how to sell it... etc)..

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Quote from: radnom on June 18, 2017, 01:04:46 PM

Quote from: skincoin_alexey on June 17, 2017, 10:10:04 AM

Quote from: radnom on June 17, 2017, 08:37:06 AM

Hey Skincoin, I'd like to know whats your traffic and revenue from your already working websites: skinwin.com. csgodep.com, skin-hunt.com and case.club

I'm a total stranger to gaming industry and I'd like to know the market capitalization of secondary markets before I invest.

Thank you.

I may say about our web sites (steamtrade.net case.club skinwin.com) it's more then $10 millions turnover past year.

Thats a very good number, way lot than I imagened. So why would you need SkinCoin, wouldn't be easier to just ssell through fiat etc. or even Ethereum, Bitcoin?

Thanks for your answers.

It's simple, cause there are no infrustructure for using Bitcoin or Ethereum in eSports right now. You can pay by Bitcoin only in several sites in eSports industry, cause bitcoin transaction is to slow for trading. We launch this ICO to start build an infrastructure for cryptocurrency as payment method in eSporst ecosystem.
We already have great expirience in this area, own working successfull projects and stong development team.

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Quote from: inoes on June 19, 2017, 04:52:49 AM

too much people cant believe for this project :/
dev you need make it clear before ico is full open to public. maybe another escrow without smart contract ETH its good move i think.

Hi, you have to check our main social community Slack (slack.skincoin.org) to be sure that a lot of people interested in this ICO, not only people from "crypto industry". We start getting offers from eSports gaming industry to participate on it and add SkinCoin as payment method on it. You just have to open your eyes more wide for this vision.
Smart-contract is the most conviniant method basically means that you have full control over your tokens. You will get SKIN token instantly after sending ETH. Once the set of smart contracts is deployed on the Ethereum blockchain, nobody can modify the code. That is, it lives and autonomously runs on the blockchain.

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too much people cant believe for this project :/
dev you need make it clear before ico is full open to public. maybe another escrow without smart contract ETH its good move i think.

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One of MANY examples of how to exchange skins:

http://imgur.com/mSjTSQl

Why give skins for shitcoin and trust developer to not take value out of system? No one could find out if they stole items. No tx fees or other way to make money means dev and operation budget will run out.

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Quote from: skincoin_alexey on June 15, 2017, 07:31:23 AM

Quote from: Samalex97 on June 14, 2017, 01:34:59 PM

Ive been a backbone to the csgo community since 2014 and an active crypto investor for 2 years and this coin is a SCAM. It will never have utility within the community. We use bitcoin due to its liquidity and there is no need for this coin. The current 'skincoin' is called steam wallet... If you want a coin to overtake the current system you would have to get all gambling sites to agree that it would be accepted... the sites you listed are some of the more unpopular sites. AND if gambling sites were even to consider using this coin it wouldn't work because the whole point of skins is to circumvent the use of a currency... Your no longer skin gambling, your crypto gambling. Investor beware

Plugging steam to show legitimacy

https://steamcommunity.com/id/samalexcs/

As you say you are know about the skin market.
We are who invent web site case opening, we did it before it become mainstream.
Here is the proof from early 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq0rs-cJlI4
1.5 m views on case opening ad.

There is the problem, how you going to send inside points from one site to another?
You will need to exchange points on skins, send skins to another web site trough steam and exchange it on points again.
We are making universal currency which you can easily exchange on skins, directly send to another gaming web site, or exchange on bitcoins.

Also we have a lot of development for example on steamtrade.net you can buy 100 skins and we will send you them in 1 trade.
We will do the same on skincoin exchange.

This solves NOTHING. Skins are similar to crypto and can already be exchanged. Sold for USD, BTC, used to deposit to casino..

There is ZERO information about how your coin will work or how it will solve the problem. Not even how the coin will make money and pay for development and operations costs when the initial budget is spent.

Why should we TRUST you to keep skins safe? You offer NO information on how anything, especially the coin, will work!!

Looks like SCAM to get traffic to your own gambling sites!

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15 posts / week is to much. may be 10 posts is reasonable

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Quote from: BNazz on June 18, 2017, 04:50:53 AM

Beware of the websites they are pushing their tokens to. They currently own some of them.

I dont see this getting any bigger than it is right now.

how knows
but if you already read full white paper its clear for me

cant wait to see first day ico launch

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Quote from: Samalex97 on June 14, 2017, 04:52:16 PM

Quote from: RhinoTrader on June 14, 2017, 02:03:17 PM

Quote from: Samalex97 on June 14, 2017, 01:34:59 PM

Ive been a backbone to the csgo community since 2014 and an active crypto investor for 2 years and this coin is a SCAM. It will never have utility within the community. We use bitcoin due to its liquidity and there is no need for this coin. The current 'skincoin' is called steam wallet... If you want a coin to overtake the current system you would have to get all gambling sites to agree that it would be accepted... the sites you listed are some of the more unpopular sites. AND if gambling sites were even to consider using this coin it wouldn't work because the whole point of skins is to circumvent the use of a currency... Your no longer skin gambling, your crypto gambling. Investor beware

Plugging steam to show legitimacy

https://steamcommunity.com/id/samalexcs/

Without talking about the legitimacy of this coin, your post sounds like the classic "we use dollar bills and there is no need for bitcoins" argument everyone here has heard a million times

That alone is no reason to call this "SCAM" that is a heavy accusation you are putting across. simply because you dont believe in something, doesnt make it a scam.

I can call you a scam because you spend hours on steam gaming and contributing nothing to society, hence SCAM.... would you like that?
I guess not, so dont label everything as a SCAM without proper reasons.

Maybe Scam is too harsh of a word, but it will have minimal market presence in the cs:go industry and i don't want people to be confused about that. The whole value in the industry comes from skins being a parallel value transfer method to something like crypto. Skincoin just creating a solution where the problem has already been fixed.

Thanks for the information from someone that has experience with what the coin would be good for

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Quote from: udidrone on June 18, 2017, 10:30:41 AM

Quote from: imutlinda on June 18, 2017, 05:34:39 AM

Quote from: Solomiya on June 18, 2017, 03:02:20 AM

I think this project will develop dynamically. Guys, I call to invest your money in this project!!

I still think about it, because I'm still a little hesitant.

i will wait when ICO start and see how it will be. if all works good i will think to invest money in this project

But if you want to invest but do not do it early in ico, the bonus you get will be less.
The sooner you invest, the more bonus you will get.

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Quote from: skincoin_alexey on June 17, 2017, 10:10:04 AM

Quote from: radnom on June 17, 2017, 08:37:06 AM

Hey Skincoin, I'd like to know whats your traffic and revenue from your already working websites: skinwin.com. csgodep.com, skin-hunt.com and case.club

I'm a total stranger to gaming industry and I'd like to know the market capitalization of secondary markets before I invest.

Thank you.

I may say about our web sites (steamtrade.net case.club skinwin.com) it's more then $10 millions turnover past year.

Thats a very good number, way lot than I imagened. So why would you need SkinCoin, wouldn't be easier to just ssell through fiat etc. or even Ethereum, Bitcoin?

Thanks for your answers.

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Quote from: imutlinda on June 18, 2017, 05:34:39 AM

Quote from: Solomiya on June 18, 2017, 03:02:20 AM

I think this project will develop dynamically. Guys, I call to invest your money in this project!!

I still think about it, because I'm still a little hesitant.

i will wait when ICO start and see how it will be. if all works good i will think to invest money in this project

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Quote from: Solomiya on June 18, 2017, 03:02:20 AM

I think this project will develop dynamically. Guys, I call to invest your money in this project!!

I still think about it, because I'm still a little hesitant.

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Beware of the websites they are pushing their tokens to. They currently own some of them.

I dont see this getting any bigger than it is right now.

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I think this project will develop dynamically. Guys, I call to invest your money in this project!!

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