I'm not blind to the red flags that were raised, and I sincerely appreciate the flag raisers, but I'm also not blind to the green flags, which are definately present also. To focus on one side or the other, BillionDollarMan, is a matter of perspective.
My perspective is that every person, or company, is innocent untill the contrary has been proven. And CREDITS is not a proven scam, so I think it is not fair to label them as such at this stage.
I think it is perfectly fine to raise the red flags when newcomers are visiting the thread by positing counter arguments in dialogue discussions. Then the ins and outs of the red and green flags can be discussed and the newcomer can make up his / her own mind. That is different from copy-pasting monologues. The forum was not meant for that. That goes for shillers also whose content doesn't reach beyond 'buybuybuy' monologues.
I feel you two have some grudge against CREDITS. Perhaps you were unfairly banned from Telegram or perhaps you missed out on CS due to the sudden hardcap. If that is the case then I invite you to talk about that. But at least keep it a dialogue, a discussion, both sides, instead of blind copy-pasting.
Your solution to flag raisers was to open a self-moderated thread so the topic starter can remove any unwanted content.
As i previously said. No wonder why you have a negative Trust.
Okay. I think it is enough. I've been supporting the CREDITS project from the moment they appeared at Bitcointalk, and dispite my support I do not mind at all when critical questions are asked or doubts are raised. I would actually encourage it. A professional project can usually answer such questions and take away doubts. But the discussion should consist of content, not of personal attacks, mud throwing at each other, false linking, etc. This thread is being totally spoiled by a bunch of weazles who's only goal is exactly to spoil the thread.
I have a suggestion to cheus, the starter of this thread.
1. Open a new CREDITS ANN thread (or let the present Bitcointalk community manager do that) but make it this time self-moderated. This will enable the topic starter to remove unwanted content.
2. Put a reference to the new thread in the opening post and in a last post. And then close and lock this thread.
The weazles then can open their own spam thread for their poisoneous posts. And the proper CREDITS ANN thread can be reserved for proper announcements and interesting, decent discussions.