Topic: [ANN][KARM] Karma / ₭ / X11 - page 160. (Read 583254 times)
I'm currently trying to get us on an alternative blockchain explorer, the insight one is good but it's lacking some features, like rich list, wealth distibution, etc. I think knowing how karma is distributed will make people more at ease, and want to be in the top 100-1000 holders. Will update on progress.
We're talking about helping Karma not Karmashares.
this is a moot point since you speak for both karma and karmashares and since any action taken benefits both.
And may I ask why you get the impression that I "want to be the leader"?
your signature, past actions and comments.
maybe you don't want to be the leader any more, and that of course is your choice but I am sure you wouldn't have done all that you did if you didn't want to take charge.
you put yourself into that role and set up a for profit company.. nobody made you do it.
you made commitments and built up the expectations of your investors and now they are being critical and dumping because their expectations haven't been met.
am I saying this is all your fault?.. of course not, the community should take more responsibility for building projects and starting more companies of their own and not just rely on one small company to do everything.
you have done more that your fair share of the lifting by far and your investors aren't expecting you to do everything on your own, that is why they gave you all that Karma so that you could use some of it to grow your company as the flagship of the community.
Chargin made a very good point that if you build up expectations then you have to deliver on them otherwise you will get punished by the market.
I am making the very clear point that if you set up a "for profit" company then you need to run it like a for profit company and not expect everyone to help you and continue to donate their time like it is a charity.
I have always lived by the idea that it is better to under promise and over deliver, than to over promise and under deliver.
This recent round of dumping is exactly why I do not make grand statements and price predictions and it is exactly why some people are reluctant to get more involved both with Karmashares and with Karma.
Be prepared for a dump under 20lite next 24hrs
Downtrend after this big insider, how can you be surprised.
I also hold a big bag but that should not make me blind.
What should we waiting for till 1.sept. Don`t worry kosmost makes you rich with his super karma-----after next announcement, for sure
Again again in crypto.
Be honest, whats the difference between karma few months ago and now?
PND they made some progress in the right direction.
I also hold a big bag but that should not make me blind.
What should we waiting for till 1.sept. Don`t worry kosmost makes you rich with his super karma-----after next announcement, for sure
Again again in crypto.
Be honest, whats the difference between karma few months ago and now?
PND they made some progress in the right direction.
wow 70ltc worth dumped under a min...wonder who that is
How come this is a surprise? Two much negative vibes here, clear downtrend for 3 days, and no clear statement what are the next steps.
Anyone working on any android projects?
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Can you develop nice Android wallet for us? And are you willing to do it for 10 million Karma?
this is the perfect time for those who owns billions of karma to step in and collect a bounty. I bet just like before it will go into def ears
This bounty will come only from me. We don`t need anybody else. As we have talk about this already, maybe 10 to 20% of all coin holders and share holders are reading and writing here. So don`t expect substantial help from all Karma holders. It doesn`t matter how many times we are calling them to help, because they are just not here and will never come. And maybe 50-60% of Karma holders doesn`t even know how many types of coins they have and what is the exact amount of coins they are holding. Because they are holding 10 to sometimes more than 100 coins. And this is the reason why they will not even remember of Karma, if no substantial gain of the price is achieved. They don`t think about the value at all. Maybe they don`t even know what is value. This is the reality in crypto. Again, look at the shareholders. They are around 270. How many of them are active here? And I am not talking about helping, just be active. 10-20? Aren`t they the true believers? Maybe all of them invested in many coins and are expecting if one of the coins is to be successful, to return the bad investments for all other coins. I am not speaking for everybody, but almost all of the people I know are following just the exchanges and if they see that some coin is in the green zone, they are starting to look if they have this coin. Ir is ridiculous behavior, but it is true. I am sure that everyone here, involved in crypto for at least a year will confirm.
wow 70ltc worth dumped under a min...wonder who that is
hmm why did BTT remove the alt [Suspicious link removed]d ... user name ?
Thats why I couldn't find him
oddI did notice his made a post in this thread recently though....
lets try this again
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/altcoingood-321971
hmm why did BTT remove the alt [Suspicious link removed]d ... user name ?
Thats why I couldn't find him
oddI did notice his made a post in this thread recently though....
Anyone working on any android projects?
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Can you develop nice Android wallet for us? And are you willing to do it for 10 million Karma?
we are also having trouble with insight api. http://explorer.karmacoin.me/
have any experience on that
hmm why did BTT remove the alt coin good ... user name ?
Thinking about setting up a local p2pool node and I need some help :/
you should contact user alt[Suspicious link removed]d from both here and www.reddit.com/u/alt[Suspicious link removed]d
he is running the p2p pool
i'm sure he will be eager to help
cheers
But thank you, I will reach out to him shortly.
Thinking about setting up a local p2pool node and I need some help :/
you should contact user altcoingood from both here and www.reddit.com/u/altcoingood
he is running the p2p pool
i'm sure he will be eager to help
cheers
Anyone working on any android projects?
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I am a senior member in the xda developers forums. (Was previously developing ROMs in the past)
You can checkout my profile here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4554955
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Can you develop nice Android wallet for us? And are you willing to do it for 10 million Karma?
Anyone working on any android projects?
I am a senior member in the xda developers forums. (Was previously developing ROMs in the past)
You can checkout my profile here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4554955
Need some help? Send me a PM
I am a senior member in the xda developers forums. (Was previously developing ROMs in the past)
You can checkout my profile here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=4554955
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Can you develop nice Android wallet for us? And are you willing to do it for 10 million Karma?
this is the perfect time for those who owns billions of karma to step in and collect a bounty. I bet just like before it will go into def ears
Anyone working on any android projects?
I am a senior member in the xda developers forums. (Was previously developing ROMs in the past)
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Can you develop nice Android wallet for us? And are you willing to do it for 10 million Karma?
I am also proposing a penalty model to be discussed and voted. You all know that I have big mouth and sometimes I don't think before I speak and because of this maybe I have insulted someone. This is why I find myself a proper guy to propose a penalty model . You all know that we have Code of conduct and everyone should stick to it, no matter who he is or think he is. Me, personally, I often dream that I am Yoda or at least Luke. But when I wake up, it seems that I can not move objects with a look at it. So, I suggest that if somebody insult Karma team member, a vote to be made in our forum. If the vote decides, this guy should be removed from profit sharing list for let's say 3 months. The vote can decide penalty only with at least 10 votes and 3/4 of the votes. This will mean that there are enough karmashare members that think somebody's behavior is not the Karma way.
Let's brainstorm on this. Shall we?
I find it unacceptable for someone to offend Karma team members. This story from past 2 days must never happen again. Most of the time these guys don`t even have personal time because of our interest. If we are not able to help them for any reason, it is imperative not to disrespect them at least.
. You all know that we have Code of conduct and everyone should stick to it, no matter who he is or think he is. Me, personally, I often dream that I am Yoda or at least Luke. But when I wake up, it seems that I can not move objects with a look at it. So, I suggest that if somebody insult Karma team member, a vote to be made in our forum. If the vote decides, this guy should be removed from profit sharing list for let's say 3 months. The vote can decide penalty only with at least 10 votes and 3/4 of the votes. This will mean that there are enough karmashare members that think somebody's behavior is not the Karma way.Let's brainstorm on this. Shall we?
I find it unacceptable for someone to offend Karma team members. This story from past 2 days must never happen again. Most of the time these guys don`t even have personal time because of our interest. If we are not able to help them for any reason, it is imperative not to disrespect them at least.
I for one was all about let them say what they want and i will slowly and calmly show them that they are wrong. But recently i can't seem to find a way to start to explain a basic accusation of some one saying "scam!" When a person doesn't provide proof or a theory why he feels this is scam then i can not provide argument base to that conversation.
If some one makes personal insults , well that will show their level of communicating.
Life is not black and white so i dont think we should control this. I would hope the community would unite together and point out the facts why this person is behaving irrational.
To me Code of Conduct was not created to punish some one on their first account but to give us some basic and common agreement how to deal with some one who is constantly abusing them.
people have heated discussions.They loose the moment and say insulting words. Our job as a community is to let them know that they are crossing the line. We are not a nany state. if they want to go at it with name caling them they should be urged to take it private by PMs or what ever.
I would urge the community to get involved and calm everyone. Dont wait for some one like Kosmost to come and deal with it. Kosmost time is precious and it should not be spend typing paragraphs or paragraphs why some one should stop behaving.
As far as FUD. FUD is not tolerance. anything FUD should be removed completely.
things like " karma is dead!" is considered FUD and should be removed immediately. it is baseless and fact less accusation. its negative and could hurt investors. On the other hand things like "Karma is going to the moon!" will be allowed not because it profits us but it a harmless sentimentalization. No investor is going to panic sell to that. Topic like " karma is going to blow in two days!!" is considered FUDish. unless you word it as a form of an opinion or questions specific actions about something. example " is karma going to blow in two day?" would be okay.
Unlike personal attacks. a FUD topic could hurt tons of people and it needs to be removed.
that is my opinion in regard the karma share forum. regarding the forum here we can not control this. we can only unite and a communirt and bury the FUD comments down.
OK, if you don't agree on penalty system, how about all of the discussions on important matters that needs LLC members attention to be made only in Karmashares forum? And only final results to be shared. I know that you all are too generous about your thinking and doings and you want everything to be in public. Free speech is the best way to communicate, but that doesn`t mean that everyone can call somebody names and throw empty accusations with no meaning at all. But there will be always someone who will ignite and burn on sensitive matters, so some kind of barrier should be made. No one should insult Karma team member.
This is to continue the discussion about the PoC model. If I missed similar idea, please excuse me. I think that PoC model should be improved in some way. If it is possible, it should be kept, but changed. I suggest to raise the holding period to 6 months and 75 million coins (yes, raise). And also to assure that no exchange will take advantage of other people coins, I suggest that investment of 5 million KARMA should be send to dedicated address at least 3 months before any deal is announced or closed - we can discuss this term. This address could be same as KARMASHARES address - open for everyone to look at it. This way anyone can see which address is eligible for any profit. First see it at this special list and then look at the block explorer to see when the transaction was made. You know that I am strong supporter of the small investors and miners, but I have learned some lessons from the recent events. This 5 million coins can never be withdrawn and also can be used for Karma funding.
If such decision is taken, I am willing to update such list. Not holding the coins of course, just updating the list.
All that will read my proposal. Please focus on how to improve PoC model, not on should it be removed or not. The discussion is not focused on kill or keep PoC.
OK. i'll bite. i am replying because i would like to share my thoughts with you.I want everyone to know that i stand behind the team and unless we hire some licensed SEC lawyer then i would not push for any POC solution . At this moment i personally consider POC terminated and on hold until it is legally cleared to offered. If such decision is taken, I am willing to update such list. Not holding the coins of course, just updating the list.
All that will read my proposal. Please focus on how to improve PoC model, not on should it be removed or not. The discussion is not focused on kill or keep PoC.
Now to you reply:
please break it down a bit clearly not sure i understand it whole.
from what i do understand , here are my thoughts.
i can't agree with 75 millions. its too much. our aim is to reach minimum 500 sat price. at 10 satoshis this would be 7.5 btc worth to invest. its too much. but the public can vote on that. so we can have a general public consensus
i would like a period of 3 months or more. I also remember reading some one suggesting linear growth payments. Instead of getting the share point all at once. let say those 75 mills. some one hold them in POC then they would get %10 of the shares a week. So first day 75,000,000 x (1/1000)(x %10) , next week 75,000,000 x (1/1000)(x %20) and so one. POC was not created so anyone outside the LLC could benefit equally. it was created so we do not let non LLC members out of the loop. It was a way to provide them one more option then just trading the coins for BTC or LTC. We gave them an option to also be able to hold them for some gains. because by holding them you are helping the LLC buy not selling your coins killing the price. by not aiding in killing the momentum as reward you will receive some profit gains. In no way was there a plan to make POC holder to get equal rights to the LLC.
the LLC was created to be exclusive to who believed in the team and wanted karma to succeed. i think people should thank Kosmost for making the POC x1 rate. i think that is generous of him. : )
Anyone working on any android projects?
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i personally would love to bring up split reverse back up. If we can not find any one comfortable enough to change our code then we can do it the same way as SAT2 and some other coins have done it .i can only think of an other coin to be summercoin - SUM which changed form SUM1-SUM2(or what is known now as NAV).
This would require us to abandon our current coin eventually. Create a brand new coin with 92 mills coins. premine the amount of all the coin that are out now already. give people 1-2 months to exchange old karma with new karma at 1000:1 ratio. return the non exchanged coins back to us and then do it manually to any one else that comes later that missed the deadline for 2-3 more months and then close the trade for good. all the remaining no exchanged coin can go to the foundation or burn them for good if the public feels it would be bad for the LLC to own the rest of the coins.
As you can see neither of these method are easy to do. because we are a POW coin. we would have to worry for two coins to have a healthy POW network while the exchange is happening. Unlike NAV & SAt2 who were pos already.
We could simply ignore this reverse split altogether and carry on with our perfectly working coin! but then in order us to blow out of the 10 satoshi walls we should stop thinking small scale and start helping Kosmot in the quest to bring the coin to a country!
This would require us to abandon our current coin eventually. Create a brand new coin with 92 mills coins. premine the amount of all the coin that are out now already. give people 1-2 months to exchange old karma with new karma at 1000:1 ratio. return the non exchanged coins back to us and then do it manually to any one else that comes later that missed the deadline for 2-3 more months and then close the trade for good. all the remaining no exchanged coin can go to the foundation or burn them for good if the public feels it would be bad for the LLC to own the rest of the coins.
As you can see neither of these method are easy to do. because we are a POW coin. we would have to worry for two coins to have a healthy POW network while the exchange is happening. Unlike NAV & SAt2 who were pos already.
We could simply ignore this reverse split altogether and carry on with our perfectly working coin! but then in order us to blow out of the 10 satoshi walls we should stop thinking small scale and start helping Kosmot in the quest to bring the coin to a country!
Yeah, im constantly posting about that there should be a clear overview of who wants to do what or who is doing what. But there is no response at all, even if i ask people who are already coding something what they are doing, no response at all.
But yeah i dont know enough about crypto's to point out what has to be done, i can brainstorm and i can assign tasks if people would just email or pm their abilities to someone. And then the karma team would decide what to give as a bounty on the amount of work that has be done, proof of working on it receive 20% of the bounty. Finnish the task get the 100%
Imagine how I feel
We've already tried bounties. They don't seem to work. Remember when I created bounties for individual tasks? (We were still having trouble finding people to lift a finger even back then) Not a single person responded, and there were several bounties going. These were simple things that just about anyone could do, not coding-specific. And it wasn't the first time we did something like that.
Whenever I hear that people can't help because they can't code I do a mental facepalm. You don't need to code in order to help. It's just a lousy excuse, really.
I could have easily said the same thing, and it would be true. I do not code. But I just figured out how to do what needed to be done because I care that much about Karma (Lill was the first website I needed coding help on). Install a database? Done! Make some graphics? Done! Write some text? Done! See how easy Google+Desire can be? All that and 8+ hours of sleep and a full-time job, gf, and social life! Wow.. imagine what others can do?
Coding is not the only thing that needs to be done.
There is planning, marketing, networking, researching, writing, etc., etc., etc
Perhaps I will just do what everyone else does?
Kosmost, im happy to do tasks that do not involve coding. Im good with words although i type fast on the forum and screw up spelling etc. Im a peoples person and i find it easy to know fast what people want in terms of projects that get people interested in karma to make kt likeable. So im wanting to help on projects but what i do need is people who already do this kind of stuff to talk to, where they need help in so i can support them with this.
Cheers
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