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May 07, 2014, 10:07:55 PM
Could be interesting to watch how SAT fares in their PoS transition. I believe no coin has made that switch yet from a completely PoW to a PoS coin (they're also cutting their coin sully from 15M to 7.7M)? Certainly not a trivial thing to do. Even several PoW/PoS hybrid coins had serious issues in the last weeks and all they had to do was clone BC sourcecode (apparently some didn't and would up making stupid coding errors).

DMD is a PoW/PoS hybrid that got a huge boost out of the recently announced changes to their coin.
SAT profited from the PoS announcements alone (they were at 1-2 sat before first PoS rumors hit, taking them to a high of 15 sat and now hovering at around 5 sat with occasional dips/spikes).
ECC on the other hand didn't profit from the (always planned) switch at all so far, their market situation actually reminds me of the last weeks of the KARM/BTC market on Mintpal. HUGE sell walls that create a downward spiral for ECC value.

I am pretty certain that a move to PoS would move Karma's price up temporarily, maybe another short 3-4x increase followed by a decline back to 1.5x today's level. Long term I believe it will have absolutely zero effect. What kosmost and the team are creating for Karma is 100x more important for the future value of the coin. The major PoS benefit (long-term) might be network protection from incoming Scrypt ASICs. Then again an algo-change would have the same effect. No idea if that'd be any easier to implement though. I kinda understand why the team hesitates to come to a final decision.

In about 47 days or so our rewards will drop to 35,000 per block. In your opinion, do you think it's enough for scrypt ASICs to point to Karma? They do need as much profit as possible to pay for their new rigs, right? What are some other profitable coins they would prefer over Karma, do you think?

As the price and value of Karma rises, so too will the value of even the reduced rewards.  Guess it depends on the type of miners, some need to pay immediate capital and operational expenses, they will mine the pump du jour. Others, that have the same mindset of current BitCoin miners, will see the long term benefit of holding and stashing away their KARMs. 
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May 07, 2014, 09:32:41 PM
KRAM whole network has more than 10G preferably attractive Grin

The more value we add to Karma through Karmashares the more our network hash rate will rise, as coins dry up from the exchanges.

We are unfolding a plan now to make each of our 92 billion coins the most desirable coins to hold. It won't happen overnight, but we're putting the pieces in place now.

Slow and steady is much better than an unpredictable market roller coaster ride like most other coins. Cryptocurrency is a relatively new market so people are less apt to employ logic and be more guided by emotions. Our plans counter some of irrational behaviour of actors in the market.

We are building a composite of various time-tested things (legal entity, logical and fair operating agreement, understandable framework, variety of projects that support and add value to Karma, possibility of buyouts and investment by VC firms and companies like Google, profit-sharing, etc) to make Karma a very reasonable investment for both professionals and non-professionals, and thus a more desirable and popular currency for everyone else.

There's no reason that a partner at Union Square ventures can't consider heading a $5 million round in Karmashares because we're a legal entity that can sign contracts and our search engine is showing some traction and Karmashares is basically a startup incubator that has 100% ownership of projects (likely to be a very appealing concept to them). And how would they invest? By purchasing $5 million worth of Karma, of course. (They'd probably come up with a more structured proposal, or maybe even buying all 8 billion of Karmashares coins for that much, but you get the idea.)

There's no reason that a soccer mom living in Ohio can't "invest" for their kids by buying some Karma, or their kids can't just spend $5 and buy some themselves. (Now multiply this by 50,000 or even 500,000 people around the world.) When we are seen as a relatively safe and reasonable "investment" compared with the ups and downs of the only other coin they know, Bitcoin, and the fact that we're doing lots of wonderful things, you'll see coins dry up as people buy and hold Karma.

And of course we want to have enough coins to keep our economy healthy and coins flowing.

With all of these factors are discovered in the marketplace our network hash will rise up right along with the coin price.  1 GH/s should be a rounding error at that time.
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May 07, 2014, 09:19:43 PM
Any news about BTER?


BTER is good to have.. when we have expanded interest. But they're not as big as they used to be. Their largest LTC market saw traded 15 LTC worth of coins in the past 24 hours: https://bter.com/marketlist/LTC

The better idea is probably to make Karma interesting enough to be their biggest BTC market bar far. Currently their largest is Dogecoin at 46 BTC of volume in the past day, which isn't really that much.

Here's one plan:

1) add value to Karma through Karmashares and non-profit projects and peripheral developments

2) maintain per coin value at 200 LTC+ for a few weeks

3) wait for our BTC market to come back on Mintpal, naturally per demand

4) Release Chinese language Karmashares translation (and Karmacoin.me) and have a dedicated person posting to a new Wechat or QQ Karma group

5) push for BTC/KARM on BTER (or wait for them to add it per demand)

6) Even better, CNY/KARM to allay some of the China BTC market fears

I think Chinese altcoin investors are looking for something interesting to invest in. Not just the same boring coins. It used to be Dogecoin, but no longer. It can be Karma, because we offer an interesting value proposition that they can relate to and that they desire in their other kinds of investments.
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May 07, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
Could be interesting to watch how SAT fares in their PoS transition. I believe no coin has made that switch yet from a completely PoW to a PoS coin (they're also cutting their coin sully from 15M to 7.7M)? Certainly not a trivial thing to do. Even several PoW/PoS hybrid coins had serious issues in the last weeks and all they had to do was clone BC sourcecode (apparently some didn't and would up making stupid coding errors).

DMD is a PoW/PoS hybrid that got a huge boost out of the recently announced changes to their coin.
SAT profited from the PoS announcements alone (they were at 1-2 sat before first PoS rumors hit, taking them to a high of 15 sat and now hovering at around 5 sat with occasional dips/spikes).
ECC on the other hand didn't profit from the (always planned) switch at all so far, their market situation actually reminds me of the last weeks of the KARM/BTC market on Mintpal. HUGE sell walls that create a downward spiral for ECC value.

I am pretty certain that a move to PoS would move Karma's price up temporarily, maybe another short 3-4x increase followed by a decline back to 1.5x today's level. Long term I believe it will have absolutely zero effect. What kosmost and the team are creating for Karma is 100x more important for the future value of the coin. The major PoS benefit (long-term) might be network protection from incoming Scrypt ASICs. Then again an algo-change would have the same effect. No idea if that'd be any easier to implement though. I kinda understand why the team hesitates to come to a final decision.

In about 47 days or so our rewards will drop to 35,000 per block. In your opinion, do you think it's enough for scrypt ASICs to point to Karma? They do need as much profit as possible to pay for their new rigs, right? What are some other profitable coins they would prefer over Karma, do you think?
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May 07, 2014, 07:55:28 PM
If we can hold on and prove all of the naysayers wrong and still manage to stay afloat with this many coins and with BitCoin at low low prices, we can do anything!  We have some major initiatives coming over the next few weeks.  Hold on tight!!!
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May 07, 2014, 07:10:44 PM
KRAM whole network has more than 10G preferably attractive Grin

haha you keep saying KRAM...
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May 07, 2014, 05:46:24 PM
KRAM whole network has more than 10G preferably attractive Grin
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May 07, 2014, 05:37:04 PM
Could be interesting to watch how SAT fares in their PoS transition. I believe no coin has made that switch yet from a completely PoW to a PoS coin (they're also cutting their coin sully from 15M to 7.7M)? Certainly not a trivial thing to do. Even several PoW/PoS hybrid coins had serious issues in the last weeks and all they had to do was clone BC sourcecode (apparently some didn't and would up making stupid coding errors).

DMD is a PoW/PoS hybrid that got a huge boost out of the recently announced changes to their coin.
SAT profited from the PoS announcements alone (they were at 1-2 sat before first PoS rumors hit, taking them to a high of 15 sat and now hovering at around 5 sat with occasional dips/spikes).
ECC on the other hand didn't profit from the (always planned) switch at all so far, their market situation actually reminds me of the last weeks of the KARM/BTC market on Mintpal. HUGE sell walls that create a downward spiral for ECC value.

I am pretty certain that a move to PoS would move Karma's price up temporarily, maybe another short 3-4x increase followed by a decline back to 1.5x today's level. Long term I believe it will have absolutely zero effect. What kosmost and the team are creating for Karma is 100x more important for the future value of the coin. The major PoS benefit (long-term) might be network protection from incoming Scrypt ASICs. Then again an algo-change would have the same effect. No idea if that'd be any easier to implement though. I kinda understand why the team hesitates to come to a final decision.
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May 07, 2014, 05:15:41 PM
do me a test. remove the current config file and make one with "port=" of oyur choosing. re run the wallet and tell me if you can not connect to others make sure you remove any nodes from config file and remove the old peer.dat file

then leave the same "new " port but reintroduce the addnodes.  

tell me how is it possible you connected to the same people with different port Tongue


please go to your client click on Help/Debug Window then click on the console tab..

then type in the getpeerinfo into the command box and hit enter..


now look at all your peers for the field "addr"

I am willing to wager 500,000 karma you will see quite clearly that each node is connected using port 9432

if you can change that port number, connect to peers on the Karma coin network with it and then prove it in a verifiable way how you did it.. then the 500,000 Karma is yours.

port 9432 is the port being used by the client it is the only port that matters when talking to peers...

whatever port settings you may or may not have incorrectly set are irrelevant.

PS you can also set the port number by using the "-port=nnnn" command line argument.

and before you decide to get more cheeky and write another post about how wrong I am.. I'll give you a little hint... look closely at the addnode commands you are entering into your config file.
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May 07, 2014, 04:20:38 PM
PoC system for now is doing its job, we are watching how other coins deal with recent PoS. Value doesn't grow so much for most of them, just look at Mintcoin  Wink

PoS coins don't grow at the moment because of the same fundamental issue that all coins have.. Lack of buyers.
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May 07, 2014, 03:13:33 PM
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May 07, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
PoC system for now is doing its job, we are watching how other coins deal with recent PoS. Value doesn't grow so much for most of them, just look at Mintcoin  Wink
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May 07, 2014, 02:40:28 PM
Yeah I still think we need pos.

Pos give reason to people to keep their coin on their wallet and not on exchange.

It also give more reason to buy karma when you know you can have more coin each week month or year.

And to finish its a way for people to get interested by the coin and to participate in.
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May 07, 2014, 01:55:21 PM
POS can stabilize prices, a day miners will mined  to sell hand KRAM. . .
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May 07, 2014, 01:52:42 PM
失控《失控:全人类的最终命运和结局》 原作名: Out ofControl: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World
第十二章 电子货币
12.1 密码无政府状态:加密永胜
12.2 传真机效应和收益递增定律
12.3 超级传播
12.4 带电荷的东西就可用于电子货币充值
12.5 点对点金融与超级小钱
12.6 对隐密经济的恐惧
“该书第一版于1994年发行,但是,这是一本随着时间流逝而光芒弥增的书,他当时尽管未能预知博客、维基的出现,但是,很显然,凯文那时已经感知到这些东西的出现。”  “过去十年,公认最具智慧和价值的一本书”  ——《长尾理论》作者 克里斯·安德森  从《失控》衍生出来的怀疑态度,正如同它所生出的主干,将不断地再生、分裂、侵扰我们对进步与思考的基本思维。凯利能令人在不设防的情况下,接受他的意见。  ——《信息焦虑》作者 理查德·沃尔曼

 Grin Grin Grin

What is this something to do with KARMA?

I translated it using Google Translate and it goes like this:

Out of control "runaway : the ultimate fate of mankind and the outcome ," the original name : Out ofControl: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World
Chapter XII of electronic money
12.1 cryptoanarchy : Encryption Yongsheng
12.2 fax effect and the law of increasing returns
12.3 Super spread
12.4 thing can be charged for the electronic -money
12.5 Point Finance and super little money
12.6 pairs of hidden economy fears
" The issue of the first edition in 1994 , but it is a light over time, increasing indemnity book , although he was unable to predict the blog , wiki 's appearance , however , it is clear that Kevin had already perceive these things occur , " " Over the past decade , recognized as the most valuable book of wisdom and " - ." Long Tail " author Chris Anderson from " runaway " derived skepticism , just as it give birth to the trunk , will continue to regenerate , split and intrusion in our basic thinking on the progress and thinking. Kelly can cause in the case of undefended accept his advice. - " Information Anxiety " author Richard Wallman

This is a good book. Worthy of read.
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May 07, 2014, 01:48:52 PM
Interestef
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May 07, 2014, 01:47:57 PM
Any news about pos ?

Because the number of coin is still growing each day and selling wall are more important than previous days en mintpal.


Any news about BTER?

It can really help a lot the karma coin.


Im still thinking about buying more coin to have some more millions, but the period is strange, there are not really much move in the market dont know what the price will be in one week or 1 month or 6 months.

Thanks for your answers
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May 07, 2014, 12:40:33 PM
失控《失控:全人类的最终命运和结局》 原作名: Out ofControl: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World
第十二章 电子货币
12.1 密码无政府状态:加密永胜
12.2 传真机效应和收益递增定律
12.3 超级传播
12.4 带电荷的东西就可用于电子货币充值
12.5 点对点金融与超级小钱
12.6 对隐密经济的恐惧
“该书第一版于1994年发行,但是,这是一本随着时间流逝而光芒弥增的书,他当时尽管未能预知博客、维基的出现,但是,很显然,凯文那时已经感知到这些东西的出现。”  “过去十年,公认最具智慧和价值的一本书”  ——《长尾理论》作者 克里斯·安德森  从《失控》衍生出来的怀疑态度,正如同它所生出的主干,将不断地再生、分裂、侵扰我们对进步与思考的基本思维。凯利能令人在不设防的情况下,接受他的意见。  ——《信息焦虑》作者 理查德·沃尔曼

 Grin Grin Grin

What is this something to do with KARMA?

I translated it using Google Translate and it goes like this:

Out of control "runaway : the ultimate fate of mankind and the outcome ," the original name : Out ofControl: The New Biology of Machines, Social Systems, and the Economic World
Chapter XII of electronic money
12.1 cryptoanarchy : Encryption Yongsheng
12.2 fax effect and the law of increasing returns
12.3 Super spread
12.4 thing can be charged for the electronic -money
12.5 Point Finance and super little money
12.6 pairs of hidden economy fears
" The issue of the first edition in 1994 , but it is a light over time, increasing indemnity book , although he was unable to predict the blog , wiki 's appearance , however , it is clear that Kevin had already perceive these things occur , " " Over the past decade , recognized as the most valuable book of wisdom and " - ." Long Tail " author Chris Anderson from " runaway " derived skepticism , just as it give birth to the trunk , will continue to regenerate , split and intrusion in our basic thinking on the progress and thinking. Kelly can cause in the case of undefended accept his advice. - " Information Anxiety " author Richard Wallman
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