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May 09, 2014, 10:09:57 PM
Say what you like friend but the market wants POS coins as shown by the huge initial rises in Blackcoin, Whitecoin, Pandacoin etc. ASICs will tear this coin apart if given enough time - we dont need more people with billions of coins which is what would happen since the net hash is so low. Merged mining will simply create more dumpers because those people who are mining Litecoin are doing so because they believe in the fundamentals of Litecoin - they don't give a damn about Karmacoin or else they would be mining that instead.

It is already resulted in much needed volume on Mintpal, it ultimately doesn't matter what one of us thinks of this idea - the market will decide, and right now things are looking up for the first time in over a week of declining price day on day. As more and more people catch on we will continue to rise. Like I said before, we have the resources and the projects to deter from massive dumps, even if one occured after we go up big time we will set a new floor much higher than we are at currently - it is a win win.

Remember, we were down to 40 Litecoin 24 hour volume with nearly all of that large sells before the announcement. Don't make the mistake of thinking the Average Joe Trader is going to just invest money in a very low volume coin on a downward trend day on day - we need to attract investors and the only way to do that short of popping up on each of their computers is to catch their eye with big volume and price rises.

Without volume we will continue to go down in price until we have such a small amount of market capitalization that none of our projects will ever be able to get off the ground.

A vote was cast, the results are in. We go POS in July Smiley


Price has been fairly stable around 38-44 for the past 2 weeks.

The recent volume today is mostly from 1 trade, and it may also have to do with the beta for Lill, or the fact that we're now officially a corporation.

(It is for that reason I'll wait another day to release the Lill beta. It's good to see what the market responds to.)

for "we need to attract investors and the only way to do that [edit] is to catch their eye with big volume and price rises. " - I would disagree.

What we're doing is making ourselves attractive to investors with deep pockets, not just those with a couple of hundred BTC. Those "whales" wouldn't even register on the radar to the types of people we're thinking about.

That's all talk at this stage, every coin wants to attract big investors but you cant attract the big fish if the smaller fish aren't interested. Right now even the scamcoin of the century 'PANDA' is at over 1000 Litecoin volume for the past 24 hours. We need to be pulling volume away from the scamcoins. If we can't then we have a problem - regardless of what we believe or feel, that people are prepared to invest in Panda over Karma is an issue that needs to be addressed - and has been addressed to some extent with the POS announcement, good on you for listening to the majority on that one.

It takes a real driving force as seen with Blackcoin to drive a coins price up consistently - we have great ideas and great people in this community and now we need to stick together and push forward and support the upcoming shift to POS - If you are good with mathematics you could contribute! If you are good with marketing you could contribute! There is something for everyone here and it will be the solidarity (or lack of solidarity) that will determine where we are headed.

There is no shame in copying ideas from other coins that work - its called business! There is however great shame in deciding to be a laggard and miss the opportunity to gain longterm investors because certain people want to stick to the fundamentals - the fundamentals that did not stop Karma from being dumped from Satoshi to Litoshi I might add. The POS change is needed more than ever with Scrypt Asics now out - people want to secure their investments and POS is how this is currently being done.

Proof of work will create HUGE whales who mined billions for nothing but electricity, whereas POS once implemented will force these people to BUY hundreds and hundreds of Litecoins worth of Karma on the exchange if they want to hold billions. That is the security people are now demanding - that if a whale wants coins then they will have to buy them which will cause each and every persons bag to increase in value.

sr. member
Activity: 532
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May 09, 2014, 09:39:25 PM
I'm having a problem with the pool I'm setting up.
It is the MPOS pool software.

I was able to register the Admin account but I can not fully register any other user.
A blank page appears after the registration and no mail is sent to the user.

Try to register here to see the problem:
188.226.237.142

Please help me if you have experience setting up web services.
hero member
Activity: 1022
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Creator of the ICO
May 09, 2014, 09:38:45 PM
Say what you like friend but the market wants POS coins as shown by the huge initial rises in Blackcoin, Whitecoin, Pandacoin etc. ASICs will tear this coin apart if given enough time - we dont need more people with billions of coins which is what would happen since the net hash is so low. Merged mining will simply create more dumpers because those people who are mining Litecoin are doing so because they believe in the fundamentals of Litecoin - they don't give a damn about Karmacoin or else they would be mining that instead.

It is already resulted in much needed volume on Mintpal, it ultimately doesn't matter what one of us thinks of this idea - the market will decide, and right now things are looking up for the first time in over a week of declining price day on day. As more and more people catch on we will continue to rise. Like I said before, we have the resources and the projects to deter from massive dumps, even if one occured after we go up big time we will set a new floor much higher than we are at currently - it is a win win.

Remember, we were down to 40 Litecoin 24 hour volume with nearly all of that large sells before the announcement. Don't make the mistake of thinking the Average Joe Trader is going to just invest money in a very low volume coin on a downward trend day on day - we need to attract investors and the only way to do that short of popping up on each of their computers is to catch their eye with big volume and price rises.

Without volume we will continue to go down in price until we have such a small amount of market capitalization that none of our projects will ever be able to get off the ground.

A vote was cast, the results are in. We go POS in July Smiley


Price has been fairly stable around 38-44 for the past 2 weeks.

The recent volume today is mostly from 1 trade, and it may also have to do with the beta for Lill, or the fact that we're now officially a corporation.

(It is for that reason I'll wait another day to release the Lill beta. It's good to see what the market responds to.)

for "we need to attract investors and the only way to do that [edit] is to catch their eye with big volume and price rises. " - I would disagree.

What we're doing is making ourselves attractive to investors with deep pockets, not just those with a couple of hundred BTC. Those "whales" wouldn't even register on the radar to the types of people we're thinking about.
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Activity: 154
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May 09, 2014, 09:32:01 PM
28 july
it's to late to slow
we have to react quickly
make innovation
more quickly this modern world of you who do something after the other slowly cease to count


PoS is a terrible idea.. I cant believe that greed has taken over from common sense in this community.
copying someone elses' move to PoS is not "innovation" by any stretch if the imagination however KarmaShares to some degree is innovative.

how do you expect people will BUY karma if they don't own bitcoins or don't want to go through the BS process of using second market exchanges?
how can the coin get broader market penetration if all the coins are controlled by a select few Early adopters?

show me one PoS coin that has actually risen in value past its initial offering price.....

I doubt you will find ANY.

mark my words the only thing that will both secure the network and lead to broader acceptance is a switch to Merge Mining with Litecoin.
If its merge mined with litecoin then almost everyone who mines litecoins will be able to get a little Karma on top for "free" and then they become new users/spenders.

sure a some people will be able to get some of their money back when the coin goes POS but after that its nothing but a downhill slide because the market is too tightly controlled and thus illiquid.

hows NXT and all the other PS clones that followed working out for ya?

the closer we move to centralization the further away we get from broader market acceptance.

PoS and Premine coins are all designed to make the founders rich at the expense of everyone else. If you think you are one of the "Founders" because you got onto this forum in the first week then think again... unless you own more than 10% of outstanding Karma you aren't even close to benefiting from a switch to PoS unless you dump your coins on the hype...

but anyways enough of my passionate rant about PoS (Piece of S**t) coins, everyone is free to do as they please with their coins.
I just know that I will be dumping a substantial portion of my holdings on the "hype" if the move to PoS actually goes through.

Messing with the fundamentals of a coin is dangerous.. you have been warned.

Alphi, please comment in this sub as well on reddit.  
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/255avu/annpos_karmas_pos_announcement/

It is a major decision to make, we will consider everyone's thoughts on it.  I personally feel like it was more of an option when we were in the 8-10 Litoshi range, kind of the nuclear option, IMO.

The saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix it," comes to mind.  Smiley

Say what you like friend but the market wants POS coins as shown by the huge initial rises in Blackcoin, Whitecoin, Pandacoin etc. ASICs will tear this coin apart if given enough time - we dont need more people with billions of coins which is what would happen since the net hash is so low. Merged mining will simply create more dumpers because those people who are mining Litecoin are doing so because they believe in the fundamentals of Litecoin - they don't give a damn about Karmacoin or else they would be mining that instead.

It is already resulted in much needed volume on Mintpal, it ultimately doesn't matter what one of us thinks of this idea - the market will decide, and right now things are looking up for the first time in over a week of declining price day on day. As more and more people catch on we will continue to rise. Like I said before, we have the resources and the projects to deter from massive dumps, even if one occured after we go up big time we will set a new floor much higher than we are at currently - it is a win win.

Remember, we were down to 40 Litecoin 24 hour volume with nearly all of that large sells before the announcement. Don't make the mistake of thinking the Average Joe Trader is going to just invest money in a very low volume coin on a downward trend day on day - we need to attract investors and the only way to do that short of popping up on each of their computers is to catch their eye with big volume and price rises.

Without volume we will continue to go down in price until we have such a small amount of market capitalization that none of our projects will ever be able to get off the ground.

The first question we all ask when we see a coin skyrocket is "Yo, Does anyone know whats going on with X?" - That is all we need, to simply get people talking and reading this thread, checking out the websites and projects, then spreading the word in their own way.

A vote was cast, the results are in. We go POS in July Smiley


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Activity: 1022
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Creator of the ICO
May 09, 2014, 09:01:22 PM
28 july
it's to late to slow
we have to react quickly
make innovation
more quickly this modern world of you who do something after the other slowly cease to count


PoS is a terrible idea.. I cant believe that greed has taken over from common sense in this community.
copying someone elses' move to PoS is not "innovation" by any stretch if the imagination however KarmaShares to some degree is innovative.

how do you expect people will BUY karma if they don't own bitcoins or don't want to go through the BS process of using second market exchanges?
how can the coin get broader market penetration if all the coins are controlled by a select few Early adopters?

show me one PoS coin that has actually risen in value past its initial offering price.....

I doubt you will find ANY.

mark my words the only thing that will both secure the network and lead to broader acceptance is a switch to Merge Mining with Litecoin.
If its merge mined with litecoin then almost everyone who mines litecoins will be able to get a little Karma on top for "free" and then they become new users/spenders.

sure a some people will be able to get some of their money back when the coin goes POS but after that its nothing but a downhill slide because the market is too tightly controlled and thus illiquid.

hows NXT and all the other PS clones that followed working out for ya?

the closer we move to centralization the further away we get from broader market acceptance.

PoS and Premine coins are all designed to make the founders rich at the expense of everyone else. If you think you are one of the "Founders" because you got onto this forum in the first week then think again... unless you own more than 10% of outstanding Karma you aren't even close to benefiting from a switch to PoS unless you dump your coins on the hype...

but anyways enough of my passionate rant about PoS (Piece of S**t) coins, everyone is free to do as they please with their coins.
I just know that I will be dumping a substantial portion of my holdings on the "hype" if the move to PoS actually goes through.

Messing with the fundamentals of a coin is dangerous.. you have been warned.

Well said.
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 09, 2014, 08:30:18 PM
28 july
it's to late to slow
we have to react quickly
make innovation
more quickly this modern world of you who do something after the other slowly cease to count


PoS is a terrible idea.. I cant believe that greed has taken over from common sense in this community.
copying someone elses' move to PoS is not "innovation" by any stretch if the imagination however KarmaShares to some degree is innovative.

how do you expect people will BUY karma if they don't own bitcoins or don't want to go through the BS process of using second market exchanges?
how can the coin get broader market penetration if all the coins are controlled by a select few Early adopters?

show me one PoS coin that has actually risen in value past its initial offering price.....

I doubt you will find ANY.

mark my words the only thing that will both secure the network and lead to broader acceptance is a switch to Merge Mining with Litecoin.
If its merge mined with litecoin then almost everyone who mines litecoins will be able to get a little Karma on top for "free" and then they become new users/spenders.

sure a some people will be able to get some of their money back when the coin goes POS but after that its nothing but a downhill slide because the market is too tightly controlled and thus illiquid.

hows NXT and all the other PS clones that followed working out for ya?

the closer we move to centralization the further away we get from broader market acceptance.

PoS and Premine coins are all designed to make the founders rich at the expense of everyone else. If you think you are one of the "Founders" because you got onto this forum in the first week then think again... unless you own more than 10% of outstanding Karma you aren't even close to benefiting from a switch to PoS unless you dump your coins on the hype...

but anyways enough of my passionate rant about PoS (Piece of S**t) coins, everyone is free to do as they please with their coins.
I just know that I will be dumping a substantial portion of my holdings on the "hype" if the move to PoS actually goes through.

Messing with the fundamentals of a coin is dangerous.. you have been warned.

Alphi, please comment in this sub as well on reddit. 
http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/255avu/annpos_karmas_pos_announcement/

It is a major decision to make, we will consider everyone's thoughts on it.  I personally feel like it was more of an option when we were in the 8-10 Litoshi range, kind of the nuclear option, IMO.

The saying, "if it ain't broke don't fix it," comes to mind.  Smiley
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Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 09, 2014, 08:21:48 PM
Mad coinz!!

Doge will have 100B coins by the end of 2014 and add an additional 5B every year there after.  Just to put our baby in perspective.  If we stay with PoW, we eventually stop at 92B and will become deflationary at that point while Doge will keep adding.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dogecoin

GO KARM!!!
 

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Activity: 798
Merit: 1000
May 09, 2014, 07:57:02 PM
28 july
it's to late to slow
we have to react quickly
make innovation
more quickly this modern world of you who do something after the other slowly cease to count


PoS is a terrible idea.. I cant believe that greed has taken over from common sense in this community.
copying someone elses' move to PoS is not "innovation" by any stretch if the imagination however KarmaShares to some degree is innovative.

how do you expect people will BUY karma if they don't own bitcoins or don't want to go through the BS process of using second market exchanges?
how can the coin get broader market penetration if all the coins are controlled by a select few Early adopters?

show me one PoS coin that has actually risen in value past its initial offering price.....

I doubt you will find ANY.

mark my words the only thing that will both secure the network and lead to broader acceptance is a switch to Merge Mining with Litecoin.
If its merge mined with litecoin then almost everyone who mines litecoins will be able to get a little Karma on top for "free" and then they become new users/spenders.

sure a some people will be able to get some of their money back when the coin goes POS but after that its nothing but a downhill slide because the market is too tightly controlled and thus illiquid.

hows NXT and all the other PS clones that followed working out for ya?

the closer we move to centralization the further away we get from broader market acceptance.

PoS and Premine coins are all designed to make the founders rich at the expense of everyone else. If you think you are one of the "Founders" because you got onto this forum in the first week then think again... unless you own more than 10% of outstanding Karma you aren't even close to benefiting from a switch to PoS unless you dump your coins on the hype...

but anyways enough of my passionate rant about PoS (Piece of S**t) coins, everyone is free to do as they please with their coins.
I just know that I will be dumping a substantial portion of my holdings on the "hype" if the move to PoS actually goes through.

Messing with the fundamentals of a coin is dangerous.. you have been warned.
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Activity: 172
Merit: 100
May 09, 2014, 06:29:45 PM
I want to setup a new dedicated Karma mining pool.

Who can help me with this?
The target server uses Linux Ubuntu 14.04 (but I can use other distro/version if needed).

I know how to use (more or less...) the P2Pool software but I can not find a version compatible with Karma (only Bitcoin, Litecoin, Doge...).

I'm open to suggestions of other mining pool server software.

Any help would be appreciated Smiley
I created a karma p2pool a couple of weeks ago and it's been running fine. I will get the source code on github as soon as possible. You are welcome to use it until the code is up or you finish your own karma-p2pool implementation. The address is in my signature. Beware it has a 1% fee.

You were also asking for the source code for karmacoin. It's here: https://github.com/KarmasharesLLC/karmacoin

We are waiting for a dev to update the repo to the same source code as he used for the windows and mac binary versions but this version will work fine with the blockchain anyway.
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
May 09, 2014, 05:08:20 PM


[iPOCO] I am proud to announce our new IPOCO.



///Goal?
* Provide an online place for buying Karma related clothes/items.

///How?
* Using Spreadshirt platform, they take care of everything (printing, sells, invoices, customer support)

///What are the benefits?
Each item is set at a minimum price + our benefit.

Our net benefits are :
Full K-tee : 3 euros
Simple K-tee : 2 euros
K-Ecobag : 3 euros
K-Cap : 3 euros
K-Tie : 2 euros
Keddy Bear : 2 euros
Chill Out : 2 euros
K-Mug : 2 euros
K-chain : 1 euro
K-Badge : 0.50 euro
KPhone Kase : 1 euro

///What will you do with benefit?
-All benefit goes to KarmasharesLLC, all will be transparent as usual.
With benefits in Euro, we will buy BTC at best market rate then distribute BTC to KarmasharesLLC shareholders.

///What do we need for this IPOCO?

-People making fun Karma designs, best ones will be available on our Shop.

///Costs?
-One cool .com domain name
-60 euros to have the premium account for 6 months, or 100 euros for 12 months.

///Who is in?
-Delaforetnoire, project leader
-you?

///FIRST DRAFT : We found a cool name, FABRI₭ , what do you think?

http://fabrik.spreadshirt.net/

We must find a good domain name for our shop, any ideas?

Excellent work.

I really love the idea, the website, and the name!!!
hero member
Activity: 559
Merit: 500
May 09, 2014, 04:48:30 PM
FABRI₭, I like the name and idea!

The next few days are gonna be interesting. End of bonus period for Karmashares, PoS announcement, new and existing projects making progress. Can't wait to try out Lill.

Already increased activity on the market: more buys and some people have put up much higher sellwalls than we used to have at this price range. Several hundred millions of coins available for cheap.
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Activity: 168
Merit: 100
yes!?
May 09, 2014, 04:32:44 PM


[iPOCO] I am proud to announce our new IPOCO.



///Goal?
* Provide an online place for buying Karma related clothes/items.

///How?
* Using Spreadshirt platform, they take care of everything (printing, sells, invoices, customer support)

///What are the benefits?
Each item is set at a minimum price + our benefit.

Our net benefits are :
Full K-tee : 3 euros
Simple K-tee : 2 euros
K-Ecobag : 3 euros
K-Cap : 3 euros
K-Tie : 2 euros
Keddy Bear : 2 euros
Chill Out : 2 euros
K-Mug : 2 euros
K-chain : 1 euro
K-Badge : 0.50 euro
KPhone Kase : 1 euro

///What will you do with benefit?
-All benefit goes to KarmasharesLLC, all will be transparent as usual.
With benefits in Euro, we will buy BTC at best market rate then distribute BTC to KarmasharesLLC shareholders.

///What do we need for this IPOCO?

-People making fun Karma designs, best ones will be available on our Shop.

///Costs?
-One cool .com domain name
-60 euros to have the premium account for 6 months, or 100 euros for 12 months.

///Who is in?
-Delaforetnoire, project leader
-you?

///FIRST DRAFT : We found a cool name, FABRI₭ , what do you think?

http://fabrik.spreadshirt.net/

We must find a good domain name for our shop, any ideas?

hurray, i`m on board! i will buy, design or just something other...
full member
Activity: 154
Merit: 100
May 09, 2014, 04:08:52 PM
28 july
it's to late to slow
we have to react quickly
make innovation
more quickly this modern world of you who do something after the other slowly cease to count



Don't worry - Remember the announcement that POS is on it's way is what will drive the price up and get us moving again - the actual date that POS becomes active will be a second 'Umph'.

This enable Kosmost and the team to do it once, and by god do it right.

Also, its a great sign to see people placing there entire stash on sell walls - We want as many of those coins to be distributed at these prices as possible. The more 100 Million + bagholders that sell now the more 10+ million holders we will have. Much healthier, much more conducive to long term price rises.
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Activity: 75
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May 09, 2014, 03:55:45 PM
Hi there,

I'm having connectivity issues.

Could someone please post some (working) nodes?

Thanks in advance,
Altcoinfaucet.net
newbie
Activity: 48
Merit: 0
May 09, 2014, 01:55:41 PM
28 july
it's to late to slow
we have to react quickly
make innovation
more quickly this modern world of you who do something after the other slowly cease to count

newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
May 09, 2014, 01:36:49 PM
Karma's PoS Announcement

Click Here
sr. member
Activity: 429
Merit: 250
May 09, 2014, 12:51:34 PM


[iPOCO] I am proud to announce our new IPOCO.



///Goal?
* Provide an online place for buying Karma related clothes/items.

///How?
* Using Spreadshirt platform, they take care of everything (printing, sells, invoices, customer support)

///What are the benefits?
Each item is set at a minimum price + our benefit.

Our net benefits are :
Full K-tee : 3 euros
Simple K-tee : 2 euros
K-Ecobag : 3 euros
K-Cap : 3 euros
K-Tie : 2 euros
Keddy Bear : 2 euros
Chill Out : 2 euros
K-Mug : 2 euros
K-chain : 1 euro
K-Badge : 0.50 euro
KPhone Kase : 1 euro

///What will you do with benefit?
-All benefit goes to KarmasharesLLC, all will be transparent as usual.
With benefits in Euro, we will buy BTC at best market rate then distribute BTC to KarmasharesLLC shareholders.

///What do we need for this IPOCO?

-People making fun Karma designs, best ones will be available on our Shop.

///Costs?
-One cool .com domain name
-60 euros to have the premium account for 6 months, or 100 euros for 12 months.

///Who is in?
-Delaforetnoire, project leader
-you?

///FIRST DRAFT : We found a cool name, FABRI₭ , what do you think?

http://fabrik.spreadshirt.net/

We must find a good domain name for our shop, any ideas?
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
May 09, 2014, 12:07:41 PM
Karms, because we are ''officially'' karms.  Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 532
Merit: 250
May 09, 2014, 11:09:38 AM
Karms United  Cool

I will put my 1.4 mh/s as soon as you open it.

Thanks, but are you suggesting "Karms United" or "Karmanians United"?

To everyone:
Wich payout system do you prefer?

prop: Proportional payout system
pps : Pay Per Share payout system
pplns : Pay Per Last N Shares payout system
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
May 09, 2014, 11:06:58 AM
Karms United  Cool

I will put my 1.4 mh/s as soon as you open it.
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