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May 09, 2014, 07:05:38 AM
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To end this rant, the thing that makes me a bit nervous is not the postponed announcement, but the apparent lack of a decision. There are mixed messages form the team. A while ago there were votings and then it was suggested that the PoS switch and a reward reduction announcement would follow shortly. Today it seems that the team is indeed still debating internally what to do, nothing has really been decided yet. That also gives the impression that no actual work on a transition has been done, which IMO would be really bad news. I don't need an announcement but I'd like to see a clear message going forward.


I really agree with this, i know a lot of things are currently done and will be done.

But one question really important:

Nearly each time someone speak about the price, someone answer karma share will help the price to go to the moon.


But what if the project done by karma share doesnt attract people???

And how will you attract people to the project out of this forum ?


What about pos ? a lot of people will be interested bye it and come to the coin for more visibility if we implement it.

This is what I was saying as well. It's all well and good to have all these plans to make money but without the actual BTC being injected into it they will not take off no matter how good the idea may be. Make a decision on this matter. As I understand it there was a vote and the result was in favor of a switch to POS. Plan it carefully and execute it professionally by all means but lets get a decision made here.
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May 09, 2014, 07:04:45 AM
keep up karma team ....!! u guys doing great u got my full support
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May 09, 2014, 06:57:12 AM
Dedicated multipool is an option with POS also. We have discussed this topic before, but with no POS on horizon.

Bingo!
We have a winner.
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May 09, 2014, 06:50:03 AM
Dedicated multipool is an option with POS also. We have discussed this topic before, but with no POS on horizon.
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May 09, 2014, 06:08:11 AM
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To end this rant, the thing that makes me a bit nervous is not the postponed announcement, but the apparent lack of a decision. There are mixed messages form the team. A while ago there were votings and then it was suggested that the PoS switch and a reward reduction announcement would follow shortly. Today it seems that the team is indeed still debating internally what to do, nothing has really been decided yet. That also gives the impression that no actual work on a transition has been done, which IMO would be really bad news. I don't need an announcement but I'd like to see a clear message going forward.


I really agree with this, i know a lot of things are currently done and will be done.

But one question really important:

Nearly each time someone speak about the price, someone answer karma share will help the price to go to the moon.


But what if the project done by karma share doesnt attract people???

And how will you attract people to the project out of this forum ?


What about pos ? a lot of people will be interested bye it and come to the coin for more visibility if we implement it.
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May 09, 2014, 06:01:37 AM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?

Sorry that you have to quote your question...It's actually a lot lower than that, many pools seems to forget to update their calculators at present a 1Mh/s rig averages 100 000 karma up daily.

so you're saying he should be seeing about 600,000 or so Karma per day, right (for 6Mh/s)?

What is everyone else averaging?

100 000 Karma up is what I said, this is based on my own daily average, I can't say more since I am on a slow internet. but certainly not 11M for 6MHs/s daily.
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May 09, 2014, 05:56:53 AM
Karmashares did it`s job. It is time for POS on 51-52 bill and push for BTC market. We voted for it and I think we should do it, if possible. No need for waiting anymore. Different signals to the markets are no good in long and mid term.

Are you joking ? Karmashares just started its engine two weeks ago, it has almost no ''power'' for now, all is coming in few future weeks with the 3 IPOCO websites projets (Lill, Wespond, Hireplex). Once they will be open, Karma will start to be very HOT and attractive !

I am looking long term, if we are able to make it and succeed and stay PoW only, we will be celebrated.  If we switch to PoS and succeed there will be an asterisks there.

Do we really want to follow BadgerCoin?? http://badgercoin.info

I mean, this is Karma, we are a LiteCoin clone like Doge.  We have a clearer vision and better plan of action than most.  Let those other coins pander to the quick buck and go PoS.  In terms of securing the networks, there are already theories of joint mining where we piggy back onto another clone for merge mining (http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/charlie-lee-proposes-merged-mining-ltcdoge/2014/04/08) and strengthen each other's network against a 51% attack.

There are going to be tens and maybe hundreds of other coins wanting and willing to do this at some point.  Maybe Karma will lead the way with merge mining?  

We have PoC already in action and in the long run will gain much more supporters through the respect and perseverance of staying PoW than messing with a hard fork to PoS which could potentially lose coins that were mined properly.  

I look at going PoS as a last ditch BadgerCoin effort, if we are at 5 Litoshi near flatline, auto PoS activate!  Let's hang tight right now and see how this unfolds.  Again, I am not against PoS if we all agree on it, just don't want to jump to anything before it is completed vetted and all current and future options are weighed.  Smiley

Exactly, every failing coin out there wants to switch to PoS now. 3 weeks ago Karma making the switch would have been a news item, today it'd be like "them too?" ... In the long run the community, projects, services and initiatives around Karmashares and Karmafund will be more important, I know that.

But that doesn't mean a short term effect is bad or even unneccesary. News about actual development on the coin would probably cause the price to move in a way that makes existing holders happy AND attract new buyers. This renewed interest in the coin in general would also help longterm, as it generates more poblicity and interest for the upcoming projects. Right now Karma is still an "under the radar" coin, I know for a fact many altcoin traders still file it under "dead coin" and basically think the PoC boost was just a little pump and dump. They couldn't be more wrong IMO, but it is their perception and we need to change that.

The most important effect of PoS for me would be protection from scrypt ASICs, but I'd prefer other solutions. I've suggested a move to another PoW algorithm before (like Groestl or X11), or adopting a multi-algo aproach like Myriad (though that's probably too complicated to implement). Merged mining is an option I overlooked. Very good suggestion by ShawnLeary. Little known fact: did you know ALL of the 5 algos of Myriad can be merge mined? Imagine what an awesome altcoin alliance that could turn into! Myriad could and probably will team up with a few coins for every algo and the entire group will benefit each other! Much win, such innovation!

To end this rant, the thing that makes me a bit nervous is not the postponed announcement, but the apparent lack of a decision. There are mixed messages form the team. A while ago there were votings and then it was suggested that the PoS switch and a reward reduction announcement would follow shortly. Today it seems that the team is indeed still debating internally what to do, nothing has really been decided yet. That also gives the impression that no actual work on a transition has been done, which IMO would be really bad news. I don't need an announcement but I'd like to see a clear message going forward.

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May 09, 2014, 04:25:22 AM
karm.multi-pool.eu/index.php
矿池统计的产量不准,应该除以10.
This pool already has ~100% of miners, 230 miners running at 360MH/s
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May 09, 2014, 04:09:14 AM
karm.multi-pool.eu/index.php
矿池统计的产量不准,应该除以10.
hero member
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May 09, 2014, 03:44:48 AM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?

Sorry that you have to quote your question...It's actually a lot lower than that, many pools seems to forget to update their calculators at present a 1Mh/s rig averages 100 000 karma up daily.

so you're saying he should be seeing about 600,000 or so Karma per day, right (for 6Mh/s)?

What is everyone else averaging?

I know someone solo mining with 1.23-1.25MH/s that is finding 3+ blocks a day.
Yeah 100k with 1MH/s does not sound right...

let's see if we can find out how much 1 MH/s is in block at the moment.

The current network hash is 360MH/s
We find 1440 blocks a day

So 1Mh/s = 1440/360 = 4

4 blocks @110.000 = 440.000 karmacoins

440.000x6 = 2.5mio karma a day.
Very few
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May 09, 2014, 02:20:19 AM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?

Sorry that you have to quote your question...It's actually a lot lower than that, many pools seems to forget to update their calculators at present a 1Mh/s rig averages 100 000 karma up daily.

so you're saying he should be seeing about 600,000 or so Karma per day, right (for 6Mh/s)?

What is everyone else averaging?

I know someone solo mining with 1.23-1.25MH/s that is finding 3+ blocks a day.
Yeah 100k with 1MH/s does not sound right...

let's see if we can find out how much 1 MH/s is in block at the moment.

The current network hash is 360MH/s
We find 1440 blocks a day

So 1Mh/s = 1440/360 = 4

4 blocks @110.000 = 440.000 karmacoins

440.000x6 = 2.5mio karma a day.
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Activity: 518
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May 09, 2014, 01:44:21 AM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?

Sorry that you have to quote your question...It's actually a lot lower than that, many pools seems to forget to update their calculators at present a 1Mh/s rig averages 100 000 karma up daily.

so you're saying he should be seeing about 600,000 or so Karma per day, right (for 6Mh/s)?

What is everyone else averaging?

I know someone solo mining with 1.23-1.25MH/s that is finding 3+ blocks a day.
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Creator of the ICO
May 09, 2014, 12:33:34 AM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?

Sorry that you have to quote your question...It's actually a lot lower than that, many pools seems to forget to update their calculators at present a 1Mh/s rig averages 100 000 karma up daily.

so you're saying he should be seeing about 600,000 or so Karma per day, right (for 6Mh/s)?

What is everyone else averaging?
hero member
Activity: 658
Merit: 500
May 09, 2014, 12:10:34 AM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?

Sorry that you have to quote your question...It's actually a lot lower than that, many pools seems to forget to update their calculators at present a 1Mh/s rig averages 100 000 karma up daily.
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Creator of the ICO
May 08, 2014, 11:18:03 PM
Is there anyone in the community who could help with a site about Karma in Vietnamese? http://www.reddit.com/r/KarmaTeam/comments/253m8j/vietkarmacom/
sr. member
Activity: 252
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May 08, 2014, 09:24:51 PM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?
hero member
Activity: 518
Merit: 504
May 08, 2014, 08:36:06 PM
Karmashares did it`s job. It is time for POS on 51-52 bill and push for BTC market. We voted for it and I think we should do it, if possible. No need for waiting anymore. Different signals to the markets are no good in long and mid term.

Are you joking ? Karmashares just started its engine two weeks ago, it has almost no ''power'' for now, all is coming in few future weeks with the 3 IPOCO websites projets (Lill, Wespond, Hireplex). Once they will be open, Karma will start to be very HOT and attractive !

I am looking long term, if we are able to make it and succeed and stay PoW only, we will be celebrated.  If we switch to PoS and succeed there will be an asterisks there.

Do we really want to follow BadgerCoin?? http://badgercoin.info

I mean, this is Karma, we are a LiteCoin clone like Doge.  We have a clearer vision and better plan of action than most.  Let those other coins pander to the quick buck and go PoS.  In terms of securing the networks, there are already theories of joint mining where we piggy back onto another clone for merge mining (http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/charlie-lee-proposes-merged-mining-ltcdoge/2014/04/08) and strengthen each other's network against a 51% attack.

There are going to be tens and maybe hundreds of other coins wanting and willing to do this at some point.  Maybe Karma will lead the way with merge mining?  

We have PoC already in action and in the long run will gain much more supporters through the respect and perseverance of staying PoW than messing with a hard fork to PoS which could potentially lose coins that were mined properly.  

I look at going PoS as a last ditch BadgerCoin effort, if we are at 5 Litoshi near flatline, auto PoS activate!  Let's hang tight right now and see how this unfolds.  Again, I am not against PoS if we all agree on it, just don't want to jump to anything before it is completed vetted and all current and future options are weighed.  Smiley
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May 08, 2014, 08:21:14 PM
PND - as useless as that coin is - is showing us how the switch to POS can be done correctly. Look at the price of that thing! up nearly 500%. We need to get things moving on the POS front of we are simply going to be forgotten about, Karmashares or not, I think. Too many Karma holders are dumping their coins and their isn't enough buy support to hold us above 40 Litoshi. We need that volume that PND is currently attracting and we need to soon.

As tempting as a 500% value increase in short term might be, I'm not sure that a change to POS would benefit or if it would even be detrimental to Karma in long term.

Have in mind that we are not striving for 500% increase in a week.

We are striving for 100000% increase in months/years.
And this will be accomplished with successful Karmashares funded projects, and services that are being built around Karma.

At the moment there is very little interest in Karma going by the buy volume on Mintpal the last 7 days. The sells outnumber the buys by a significant margin and the sell walls keep building up. Karmashares is a great idea and could make us all very wealthy - However, if we can't attract buyers now we wont get off the ground. The market appears to have made it clear - POS coins (bar Mintcoin which isn't going anywhere but still has considerably more volume than us) are where the BTC is going.

If the market is prepared to put their BTC into coins that go POS as opposed to coins that operate as POW and POC then we need to respond to that. It's time to start planing the transition and the code so its all smooth and professional - we have the people here with the skills (unfortunately I am not one of them), but it needs to be done with care. Even an announcement that the coin will switch to POS in the near future is better than it being up in the air.

We saw what the announcement of Karmashares did for the price, the announcement that POS is coming would probably have a similar effect to what is happening with PND. People like definite answers when it comes to potential investments - PND made the announcement and BOOM up she goes. Once we get the volume we should be able to hold it steady above 100 Litoshi given our upcoming projects etc. but without the initial volume there really is no reason for anyone to scroll down page two of mintpal, find Karmacoin, pick it out over and above any other coin, go to the official site and forums, learn about Karmashares and the various projects etc.

WE know its a great coin - but others don't, and infact have no reason to suspect so - the volume is pitiful and the price is declining daily, albeit slowly.  Lets bring Karma back to the average traders attention rather than sit and wait for something to happen with other coins, because if we do that I'm afraid we will be forgotten about rather quickly.




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May 08, 2014, 08:20:21 PM
I would like to solo-mine Karma. Can anyone help with settings (links or tutorial)? I am using cgminer 3.7.2

I run a small 1.4 mhs mining rig. I would suggest you have at least 1.0 mhs of power.
Follow this post exactly and you'll be mining solo easy.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/a-how-to-guide-for-solo-mining-521563

Make sure your wallet is the most current v 0.8.6.2.5 and fully synched.
Don't get fancy with settings, Just let the cards do their thing , after starting all stock and just playing with intensity
the only settings i use are -I 12 -g 2. Your card will determine thread concurrency it likes as well as engine and memory.

Running two threads at lower intensity is more efficient and your cards will run cooler.
I do have auto fan on one card that runs the monitor as it tends to run a little hotter than the others.
Also getting crazy with clock speeds, driving the cards hard  and such I think causes more rejected blocks.

When you know its mining the log of cgminer will say:
"Network Diff set to 5" (or whatever diff is at the time)
and next line will say
" New block detected on network". this does NOT mean you found a block but simply that the wallet
(which you're mining through) has recognized one. They release on Karma network about every minute.

When your miner "finds" and solves a block your "A:" in cgminer will show accepted work, when you get an orphan it will hit your "R:"
for Rejected work. On pools this is work on shared blocks the pools power has found. Solo mining this is all your work on a block your miner found.

Some days my miner will find several blocks.
Yesterday all it got was several rejects (orphans) but when you find and solve one....its all yours!
Sorry for long post but this is all things I had questions on and wish I had found all in one place.

Good Luck!

awesome!  Thanks for sharing!
sr. member
Activity: 252
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May 08, 2014, 08:16:02 PM
I would like to mine this coin, however, what the calculator shows and what the pool shows are way off!!  Even some pools are way off than others.  I'm I missing something?

almost 6Mh/s shows aprox 2.5mil coins

on another pool, 11 million !!

Which is correct?
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