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Conclusions

Let's think about killer application that target mass markets outside of crypto. What could those be? Ideas? Smiley

TLDR. I want to be able to hand someone a crypto currency token and want them to trust that the value is on it, and I can't spend it behind their back.


THIS IS AN OLDER IDEA, REPLACE THE OLD NAMES WITH THE NEW ONES



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"interesting. it will be pretty tricky to make sure a transfer is valid (ie no double spends), however there should be some way to use hashing, multisig and encryption to enable this.

not sure about the fiat side of things (regulations), but at some point this would make it much easier of people to adopt crypto. making possession of it trump any hidden copies is the key. there might be some research about this already, my guess is that it will need to use zero knowledge proofs"

James

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"Interesting, I like the idea of real world connections to crypto, will need to think more about this one.

I think you should look into NFC as your communication method or maybe clever QR (address on outside private key on inside fold) this would be much cheaper while still having the same type of effect."
jones






MICRO MONEY   rev 2

Is intended to be a Micro SD Card wallet technology to help facilitate Off-Blockchain transactions. This would allow various crypto types and amounts to be put on a normal or custom printed Micro SD Card to be holdable, tradeable, refillable, and collectable.  


WHY:
Right now paper money is a wonderful anonymous tool. Unfortunately paper money cannot be sent through the Internet. Micro Money is an idea to combine tangible currency with Internet capabilities as well as provide an easy to use crypto-coin container for the public.

For the general public it is easier to understand harder concepts like crypto currencies if it is tangible and you can hold it in your hand. I also wanted something more dynamic then a paper wallet or a non electronic collectible wallet token. And I've observed that humans love to collect miniatures, whether they are micro-machine toys, DnD figurines, doll houses, train sets, models, muscle men, gi joe, etc, etc, etc. Basically this is cool, fun, and something I would not mind owning and I hope others would as well.
(DISCLAIMER: This is not intended to be a replacement for the trezor or other similar wallets but a functional, secure method that promotes off-blockchain transactions.)
 
I envision it working something like this:

HOW it works for the user:
1.The user obtains a Micro SD Card, regular off the shelf or custom printed with coin logos.
2. The user inserts the card into a reader.
3. The user loads the SuperNET wallet and selects the Micro Money app.
4. The user selects the type of crypto to load and the amount from the wallet.
5. The app then loads that amount onto the card. (The app only allows one value per card to be added)
6. The user can now remove the card for trading or storage.
7. If the user wishes to verify the balance on the card it is held near a NFC device to verify.
8. If the user wishes to spend the value on the card it is inserted, and transfer/spend is selected and it is transferred by the wallet. (The Micro Money card is now empty at this point and ready to repeat step 1.)


HOW it works for the app:
1. A new Micro SD Card is formated per the app. (A partition is setup)
2. If possible one of the partitions is hidden.
3. The app generates wallet keys for the type of crypto selected.
4. The value selected by the user is transferred to this new wallet.
5. On the hidden partition, a hash of the private key and a hash of the public key is created.
The idea is to not make it easy for the public to know either key so the value is effectively locked to the card.
6. To prevent double spends the wallet keys should be un-viewable and/or un-retrievable by the user in the app and the wallet.
7. To verify balance on the card, the app uses NFC and translates the public key hash and verifies balance.
8. To spend/transfer from the card the app translates the private key, moves the value it contains, then deletes the keys. The user now repeats step 1.



This is an excellent idea! It helps brake down the barriers of exchanges and what some people have called crypto; "pretend money" Don't see any technical barriers but, lots of marketing and education would be needed. Does it make sense to redirect current development & marketing initiatives to something like this?
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Conclusions

Let's think about killer application that target mass markets outside of crypto. What could those be? Ideas? Smiley

TLDR. I want to be able to hand someone a crypto currency token and want them to trust that the value is on it, and I can't spend it behind their back.


THIS IS AN OLDER IDEA, REPLACE THE OLD NAMES WITH THE NEW ONES



Quote
"interesting. it will be pretty tricky to make sure a transfer is valid (ie no double spends), however there should be some way to use hashing, multisig and encryption to enable this.

not sure about the fiat side of things (regulations), but at some point this would make it much easier of people to adopt crypto. making possession of it trump any hidden copies is the key. there might be some research about this already, my guess is that it will need to use zero knowledge proofs"

James

Quote
"Interesting, I like the idea of real world connections to crypto, will need to think more about this one.

I think you should look into NFC as your communication method or maybe clever QR (address on outside private key on inside fold) this would be much cheaper while still having the same type of effect."
jones






MICRO MONEY   rev 2

Is intended to be a Micro SD Card wallet technology to help facilitate Off-Blockchain transactions. This would allow various crypto types and amounts to be put on a normal or custom printed Micro SD Card to be holdable, tradeable, refillable, and collectable.  


WHY:
Right now paper money is a wonderful anonymous tool. Unfortunately paper money cannot be sent through the Internet. Micro Money is an idea to combine tangible currency with Internet capabilities as well as provide an easy to use crypto-coin container for the public.

For the general public it is easier to understand harder concepts like crypto currencies if it is tangible and you can hold it in your hand. I also wanted something more dynamic then a paper wallet or a non electronic collectible wallet token. And I've observed that humans love to collect miniatures, whether they are micro-machine toys, DnD figurines, doll houses, train sets, models, muscle men, gi joe, etc, etc, etc. Basically this is cool, fun, and something I would not mind owning and I hope others would as well.
(DISCLAIMER: This is not intended to be a replacement for the trezor or other similar wallets but a functional, secure method that promotes off-blockchain transactions.)
 
I envision it working something like this:

HOW it works for the user:
1.The user obtains a Micro SD Card, regular off the shelf or custom printed with coin logos.
2. The user inserts the card into a reader.
3. The user loads the SuperNET wallet and selects the Micro Money app.
4. The user selects the type of crypto to load and the amount from the wallet.
5. The app then loads that amount onto the card. (The app only allows one value per card to be added)
6. The user can now remove the card for trading or storage.
7. If the user wishes to verify the balance on the card it is held near a NFC device to verify.
8. If the user wishes to spend the value on the card it is inserted, and transfer/spend is selected and it is transferred by the wallet. (The Micro Money card is now empty at this point and ready to repeat step 1.)


HOW it works for the app:
1. A new Micro SD Card is formated per the app. (A partition is setup)
2. If possible one of the partitions is hidden.
3. The app generates wallet keys for the type of crypto selected.
4. The value selected by the user is transferred to this new wallet.
5. On the hidden partition, a hash of the private key and a hash of the public key is created.
The idea is to not make it easy for the public to know either key so the value is effectively locked to the card.
6. To prevent double spends the wallet keys should be un-viewable and/or un-retrievable by the user in the app and the wallet.
7. To verify balance on the card, the app uses NFC and translates the public key hash and verifies balance.
8. To spend/transfer from the card the app translates the private key, moves the value it contains, then deletes the keys. The user now repeats step 1.

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Anyone-else experiencing problems accessing their Polo account. I'm getting following message  every time I try to log in, using Firefox and Chrome,.


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LOGGED OUT
Your session has expired or you have signed out from another window.
Please sign in to trade or press OK continue.

 Huh
newbie
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after you've been hacked for to protect investors was very nice.

(komodo bitcoin and dark) will continue the downward trend on the chart it has been observed that technical.

but over-selling is out of the question. after the merger, the chances of recovery is much higher. Smiley

WTF are you talking about?  Please keep your ignorance to yourself... People like you are the reason bitcointalk is so polluted...
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after you've been hacked for to protect investors was very nice.

(komodo bitcoin and dark) will continue the downward trend on the chart it has been observed that technical.

but over-selling is out of the question. after the merger, the chances of recovery is much higher. Smiley
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Conclusions

Let's think about killer application that target mass markets outside of crypto. What could those be? Ideas? Smiley

Facebook and google shows how you do it: you bulkd kind of platform for developer tools and there yo ugo.

Why Facebook is (also) popular : it builds tools for devs like Facebook login.

This you may consider small things but if you build sth like that in crypto - these are sth that root you to the market.

This is the reason Facebook cannot just vaporize - becaue many people use it as service to log in somewhere for example.

Google -> android -> app websotre -> simmilar story.

Webstore is sth ever ydev needed : build app and sell it.

Give features to the people, features they need and they will be happy.

I think it's the key to target developers in fintech. Why -> becayse if they will beuld sth on SuperNET or KMD -> it will root you to some bigger things, the business user base, same as Facebook or Google. Then the business user must support you Smiley

Make sense ?

Eth is doing that - or Lisk as well - allowing decentralize apps. Also Storj is kind of decentralize app - storing app which allows you to make money.

Who first do that easy way, stable, easy for devs, easy for the people - may be the 1 winner.

But also beside devs for applications there are other markets...

So you can do decetrnalized market app to target non-busines users as well.

Pangea poker already targeting non-business users.

Don't know what are exact Fintech needs, but if you find and target that - this can be big too...

Maybe doing some online banking module and possibility of responsibility delegation or account responsibility sharing options?
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Let's think about killer application that target mass markets outside of crypto. What could those be? Ideas? Smiley

I think Komodo has enough on its plate already. Finish your existing projects first and THEN look for new opportunities. Komodo will be in a pretty good position when it is working as promised.
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re: Marketing

Sounds good, but DO NOT forget Zcash!  Anonymous cryptocurrencies are part of users' crypto-education too...   Smiley

In other words, Zcash should be mentioned as much as Bitcoin (if not more) when it comes to marketing Komodo...  IMHO



Can we also include Monero sir.  Grin Grin Grin
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Set Your Ideas Free

It's a Komodo block explorer. You can insert your KMD address there and see its balance.

it says:

Page not found. If you entered an address, the address won't appear here until at least one transaction has been sent to it.


But I have KMD Balance on https://ico.komodoplatform.com/. So what's wrong?

You will have to request a payout(withdrawal).

Payouts are processed monthly, next one in about 3 weeks.

How to send your KMD to an exchange

- go to 'home' tab
- click 'use exsisting KMD address'
- input the deposit KMD address you got from an exchange
- Now that you have the correct KMD address you can proceed to the 'payout' tab
- Since you are using a 3rd party address you don't have the seed, and thus you will click 'skip'
- Follow instructions and confirm the withdrawal

Warning: make sure you are doing the withdrawal to a correct address! Once we send out the KMD there is no way to retrieve it.

How to send your KMD to your own KMD address

1) go to home page, click 'HOME'
2) If you don't have a seed generate a new one by clicking 'Reset Seed', follow the instructions
3) Double check your seed matches with the KMD address, click 'Check KMD address', follow the instructions
4) go to 'PAYOUT' tab
5) click 'Request payout'
6) type the seed, click 'confirm'
7) click 'send'
8 ) wait that we process the payout (check your KMD address from kpx.io)
9) after we have paid, you can open Iguana Desktop App
10) Select 'full mode' or 'basilisk mode' and insert your seed to the desktop app
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It's a Komodo block explorer. You can insert your KMD address there and see its balance.

it says:

Page not found. If you entered an address, the address won't appear here until at least one transaction has been sent to it.


But I have KMD Balance on https://ico.komodoplatform.com/. So what's wrong?
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Marketing

Yesterday we have a very fruitful meeting among all SuperNET marketing people. We are developing an action plan for everything.

The key to Komodo marketing is to first understand the role of SuperNET and how we are going to address each target audience. Komodo Platform has two audiences:
 1. Developers
 2. Komodo coin users/investors

We are still brainstorming and laying down the plan. Our next meeting is on Monday, and soon after that we will present our plan to the whole team. The result is a complete Komodo marketing plan, and after that we will design the new komodoplatform.com website.

This is just a quick update to ensure our investors that we are working!

Why we talk about SuperNET and Agama

The short text below was just quickly written based on ideas that we were throwing around yesterday. I wanted to share it as it explains WHY SuperNET plays such a crucial role in Komodo marketing.

Komodo really is in an unique spot to get a big visibility boost from cross marketing activities among all the SuperNET products.

Cross Marketing Komodo

If we want to achieve large scale adoption for Komodo and Komodo currencies, we will have to build bridges to the real world. For the short term, our marketing will be focused on the existing cryptocurrency user space. There the linkage goes like this:

1. the user learns about Bitcoin
2. the user learns about other cryptocurrencies
3. the user learns about Komodo

If we manage to build a successful bridge to a real world audience that doesn’t know about Bitcoin and blockchain it will look like this:

1. the user learns about the ‘bridge.'
2. the user learns about Komodo
3. (user learns about Bitcoin and blockchain technology)

So what is the bridge? We are already building one: Pangea poker.

The difference between Pangea and Agama is its target audience. Agama will focus on existing cryptocurrency users while Pangea will target mainstream poker players. We will get the mainstream poker players on board because we can offer a superior product.

The poker player learns about Komodo through cross marketing. The Pangea poker client will use local fiat currencies (Komodo Currencies) and probably also Komodo (KMD). The users are naturally also interested in financial privacy, in which case the website refers the Komodoplatform.com material and guides.

No cryptocurrency can catch up with bitcoin by solely marketing to the existing Bitcoin user base. Komodo will have to build its bridges to the real world to be successful. That is why SuperNET Ecosystem plays a significant role in the Komodo marketing activities.

Conclusions

Let's think about killer application that target mass markets outside of crypto. What could those be? Ideas? Smiley
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check if coin are in address at kpx.io



what does it mean?

It's a Komodo block explorer. You can insert your KMD address there and see its balance. The other explorer is:

kmd.explorer.supernet.org

P.S the full list of explorers can be seen in explorer.supernet.org

KMD:
http://kpx.io/
http://kmd.explorer.supernet.org/

http://revs.explorer.supernet.org
http://SUPERNET.explorer.supernet.org
http://DEX.explorer.supernet.org
http://PANGEA.explorer.supernet.org
http://JUMBLR.explorer.supernet.org
http://BET.explorer.supernet.org
http://CRYPTO.explorer.supernet.org
http://HODL.explorer.supernet.org
http://SHARK.explorer.supernet.org
http://BOTS.explorer.supernet.org
http://MGW.explorer.supernet.org
http://MVP.explorer.supernet.org
http://WIRELESS.explorer.supernet.org
http://KV.explorer.supernet.org
http://CEAL.explorer.supernet.org
http://MESH.explorer.supernet.org
http://USD.explorer.supernet.org
http://EUR.explorer.supernet.org
http://JPY.explorer.supernet.org
http://GBP.explorer.supernet.org
http://AUD.explorer.supernet.org
http://CAD.explorer.supernet.org
http://CHF.explorer.supernet.org
http://NZD.explorer.supernet.org
http://CNY.explorer.supernet.org
http://RUB.explorer.supernet.org
http://MXN.explorer.supernet.org
http://BRL.explorer.supernet.org
http://INR.explorer.supernet.org
http://HKD.explorer.supernet.org
http://TRY.explorer.supernet.org
http://ZAR.explorer.supernet.org
http://PLN.explorer.supernet.org
http://NOK.explorer.supernet.org
http://SEK.explorer.supernet.org
http://DKK.explorer.supernet.org
http://CZK.explorer.supernet.org
http://HUF.explorer.supernet.org
http://ILS.explorer.supernet.org
http://KRW.explorer.supernet.org
http://MYR.explorer.supernet.org
http://PHP.explorer.supernet.org
http://RON.explorer.supernet.org
http://SGD.explorer.supernet.org
http://THB.explorer.supernet.org
http://BGN.explorer.supernet.org
http://IDR.explorer.supernet.org
http://HRK.explorer.supernet.org
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Yeah, risk it if you know what you are doing. I've got over 10BTC invested today. Considering I was fighting every bet and the price is still way under my average (I also know James's bots are there). Do I worry? Hmm, I'll sell them to you guys @17 in a week ...................
Anyone got a roundmap's shortcut?
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Yeah, risk it if you know what you are doing. I've got over 10BTC invested today. Considering I was fighting every bet and the price is still way under my average (I also know James's bots are there). Do I worry? Hmm, I'll sell them to you guys @17 in a week ...................
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Hi. I downloaded Agama, activated Komodo coin, used my seed to login but my KMD balance is still 0.

I checked the wallet address, it is correct, the same as on Komod ICO. What do I need to do to see the funds?

check if coin are in address at kpx.io

if they are  then when you load the agama wallet and run komodo in basilisk mode , if the balance does not show  refresh the wallet  .   
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Hi. I downloaded Agama, activated Komodo coin, used my seed to login but my KMD balance is still 0.

I checked the wallet address, it is correct, the same as on Komod ICO. What do I need to do to see the funds?
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Hi Komodo, This great coin needs to be on a Chinese Exchange.
   
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