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Topic: [ANN][KMD][dPoW] Komodo - An Open, Composable Smart Chain Platform, Secured by B - page 858. (Read 1191725 times)

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(Thanks for your criticisms guys, your comments are noticed, but I'm a big boy and prefer to make my own decisions)

I would like to read more about the new unique dpow.

Is there a steemit post or a write up somewhere that describes how jl777 came up with dpow?

The whys, hows, whens, whats, whoose-its of it all.

legendary
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Congrats jl777

You artificially created conditions when most beneficial to loyal long term BTCD holders is FUD the shit out of the Komodo thus increasing their share of ICO.

And I will do just that. Sorry, I can't just ignore free market conditions.

Yep, I too will jump on this band-wagon...but with dose of reality not fud. You chose your strategy, and I do what is in my best interest.

For those considering investing in this ICO using BTC, be very careful here....there is a long history of promised tech that was hyped to investors to draw in BTCD buyers and believers during it's initial development and "integration with Supernet". Not one of the following has been completed: ramchains, telepathy, teleport, telepods and so many other promises that have not been fulfilled. The dev jl777 here has a long history of promises and not producing. Now, Komodo is promised as integrating something that was a well running chain, BTCD, and taking all potential future value by making new promises about an "amazing" great technology, now termed Komodo, horizontally transferring value for his own good and promising huge words and catchy tech to produce - a zcash clone (which is development and will require optimization out the wazooo to work for his tech) with iguana and other unproven and possibly seriously flawed and unsecured tech).

Please do your research and know this is a long draw to continually feed unfulfilled promises. BE CAREFUL!

http://www.alternativecoin.com/nxt-bitcoindark-and-supernet/
ramchains are used in both MGW and iguana. MGW in service for over a year, iguana is in beta test. my assessment is that zcash zkp is better than teleport/telepod so I choose the better tech to use and replace the older tech. telepathy networking tech is what has evolved into notary nodes.

There will be a testnet for the ICO, so everyone can verify that it is working.

docs.supernet.org documents the API bindings, which is something that can be verified using curl (syntax provided). Do you consider having a working API as "hype"?
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Congrats jl777

You artificially created conditions when most beneficial to loyal long term BTCD holders is FUD the shit out of the Komodo thus increasing their share of ICO.

And I will do just that. Sorry, I can't just ignore free market conditions.

Yep, I too will jump on this band-wagon...but with dose of reality not fud. You chose your strategy, and I do what is in my best interest.

For those considering investing in this ICO using BTC, be very careful here....there is a long history of promised tech that was hyped to investors to draw in BTCD buyers and believers during it's initial development and "integration with Supernet". Not one of the following has been completed: ramchains, telepathy, teleport, telepods and so many other promises that have not been fulfilled. The dev jl777 here has a long history of promises and not producing. Now, Komodo is promised as integrating something that was a well running chain, BTCD, and taking all potential future value by making new promises about an "amazing" great technology, now termed Komodo, horizontally transferring value for his own good and promising huge words and catchy tech to produce - a zcash clone (which is development and will require optimization out the wazooo to work for his tech) with iguana and other unproven and possibly seriously flawed and unsecured tech).

Please do your research and know this is a long draw to continually feed unfulfilled promises. BE CAREFUL!

http://www.alternativecoin.com/nxt-bitcoindark-and-supernet/
legendary
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Congrats jl777

You artificially created conditions when most beneficial to loyal long term BTCD holders is FUD the shit out of the Komodo thus increasing their share of ICO.

And I will do just that. Sorry, I can't just ignore free market conditions.
As long as we all understand you are FUD'ing for your own purpose, have fun. Just lets try to remain civil. Thanks
I will Smiley
Actually there is plenty of topics to elaborate on.
legendary
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Congrats jl777

You artificially created conditions when most beneficial to loyal long term BTCD holders is FUD the shit out of the Komodo thus increasing their share of ICO.

And I will do just that. Sorry, I can't just ignore free market conditions.
As long as we all understand you are FUD'ing for your own purpose, have fun. Just lets try to remain civil. Thanks
legendary
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Congrats jl777

You artificially created conditions when most beneficial to loyal long term BTCD holders is FUD the shit out of the Komodo thus increasing their share of ICO.

And I will do just that. Sorry, I can't just ignore free market conditions.
legendary
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There are two options - either the project is being abandoned right now, or it was already abandoned long time ago?

So you say BTCD was abandoned long ago, and it was only illusion that it exist and will be sth in the future?

Maybe I'm wrong but I think many people feel the project is being abandoned now with poor exchange rate to switch to a new project.

I cannot prove anything - all discussion were on slack which deletes history. But all discussions and development were promising BTCD will be sth in the future and there was no discussion about new ICO and anything suggesting BTCD is abandoned project... At least not last 10 months that I'm watching it.

PS

Invested in BTCD 10 months ago, so what you mean about short term pump? The one that can happen in 1-2 years since buy in?


James did not hold a ICO for btcd so who are actually investors?

He is a person that has no obligations to BTCD. He is free like anyone to walk away at any time and not offer this swap.

So before anyone thinks about dilution or the lack of a short term pump, think about a devless coin that has the same tech as any other alt coin.

There is no abandoning going on. There is the ability to swap BTCD for komodo. That is not abandonment no matter how you want to spin it.


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There are two options - either the project is being abandoned right now, or it was already abandoned long time ago?

So you say BTCD was abandoned long ago, and it was only illusion that it exist and will be sth in the future?

Maybe I'm wrong but I think many people feel the project is being abandoned now with poor exchange rate to switch to a new project.

I cannot prove anything - all discussion were on slack which deletes history. But all discussions and development were promising BTCD will be sth in the future and there was no discussion about new ICO and anything suggesting BTCD is abandoned project... At least not last 10 months that I'm watching it.

PS

Invested in BTCD 10 months ago, so what you mean about expecting short term pump? The one that can happen in 1-2 years since buy in?

What Im complaining about is only that you assume/expect 5x funds dilution + risk regular ICO dump within 1 month, which leads basically to investment loss, as ICO will eat BTCD gain, which was very likely within next 3-6 months, and only can promise sth in much longer term. So again longer term...

PS2

I see not many BTCD holders complaining, but judging by some questions, most people do not understand simple math and believes they are swaping 1:1. So I do not care much about those "convinced" that all is good.

I'd like to hope all will be good like you say, but still I think how it is solved and communicated is wrong approach, and do not promise well.




James did not hold a ICO for btcd so who are actually investors?

He is a person that has no obligations to BTCD. He is free like anyone to walk away at any time and not offer this swap.

So before anyone thinks about dilution or the lack of a short term pump, think about a devless coin that has the same tech as any other alt coin.
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We guarantee that one BTCD will be worth 0.00532 bitcoins in the ICO. Thus swapping BTCD to Komodo is the same as investing BTC in the ICO.

Exactly, so you guarantee nothing at all. Instead the LESS people buy into ICO, better for BTCD holders!


If you don't like to participate in the ICO, then you should not hold any BTCD either.

Do you realize, that all this was ninjalaunched on BTCD holders without warning? I would never invest into BTCD if I had this knowledge

To all the people who will participate in the ICO, it doesn't matter if they invest with BTCD or BTC.

We recommend everyone to either sell their BTCD or invest them in the upcoming ICO. We cannot guarantee that BTCD will have any value after the Komodo ICO, as the last developer will be focusing on Komodo development and BTCD will thus have no developers left. However, after the ICO every BTCD holder has 1 year to do the swap to Komodo.


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We guarantee that one BTCD will be worth 0.00532 bitcoins in the ICO. Thus swapping BTCD to Komodo is the same as investing BTC in the ICO.

If you don't like to participate in the ICO, then you should not hold any BTCD either.

To all the people who will participate in the ICO, it doesn't matter if they invest with BTCD or BTC.

We recommend everyone to either sell their BTCD or invest them in the upcoming ICO. We cannot guarantee that BTCD will have any value after the Komodo ICO, as the last developer will be focusing on Komodo development and BTCD will thus have no developers left. However, after the ICO every BTCD holder has 1 year to do the swap to Komodo.
legendary
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BTCD Valuation for the swap

In order to simplify the BTCD to KMD swap, a fixed exchange rate of 1.0 BTCD to 0.00532074 BTC was established, meaning that if you send one BTCD you will receive 0.00532074 BTC worth of Komodo. This exchange rate was determined by adding a 50% bonus to the daily closing price average of August. The swapping process will take place after the ICO and detailed information will be posted soon.

Average price in Aug = 0.00354716 BTC/BTCD
BTCD exchange rate =  0.00354716 * 1.5 = 0.00532074 BTC/BTCD

When we take into account the bonuses during ICO, we get:

Oct. 15 -           25% bonus  = 0.00425 BTC/BTCD
Oct. 16-22 -      20% bonus  = 0.00443 BTC/BTCD
Oct. 23-29 -      15% bonus  = 0.00462 BTC/BTCD
Oct. 30-Nov 5 - 10% bonus = 0.00483 BTC/BTCD
Nov 6-12 -         5% bonus   = 0.00506 BTC/BTCD
Nov 13-20 -       0% bonus   = 0.00532 BTC/BTCD


This is complete nonsense you estimate BTCD price based on Komodo price which is unknown.
And will be unknown until Komodo is live on the exchange!!!

Explain how you get to 0.00532!!!
BTCD exchange rate =  0.00354716 * 1.5 = 0.00532074 BTC/BTCD is absolutely meaningless equation and no guarantee Komodo purchased at that fabricated rate will have such value.

You are cooking from water my friend.
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BTCD Valuation for the swap

In order to simplify the BTCD to KMD swap, a fixed exchange rate of 1.0 BTCD to 0.00532074 BTC was established, meaning that if you send one BTCD you will receive 0.00532074 BTC worth of Komodo. This exchange rate was determined by adding a 50% bonus to the daily closing price average of August.  The  swapping process will take place after the ICO and detailed information will be posted soon.

This is so wrong and missleading in all aspects.

you will recieve 0.00532074 BTC worth of something that has unknown value.
making whole conversion rate meaningless


Thank you for your input! I included more information regarding the exchange rates.

If you are not comfortable participating in Komodo ICO, there are numerous people who do want to participate in the ICO and thus are willing to buy more BTCD. This gives value to the BTCD.
legendary
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NXTventure is another one that has been finished for over a year. It has paid out in dividends more than I think any other NXT asset by value of dividends at the time it was sent out. Again, the future of NXTventure is hampered by all the changes with NXT that is out of my control, however I would consider NXTventure was completed.


What do you mean by 'finished' James? Will there be more dividends paid to NXTventure (is it still worth anything), or is it dead? What do you mean by "completed"? People still trading it ...


I am working on a transition plan for NXTventure. It has value as it has holdings.

By "completed"/"finished" I mean it was working as it was intended to, it wasnt incomplete
legendary
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BTCD Valuation for the swap

In order to simplify the BTCD to KMD swap, a fixed exchange rate of 1.0 BTCD to 0.00532074 BTC was established, meaning that if you send one BTCD you will receive 0.00532074 BTC worth of Komodo. This exchange rate was determined by adding a 50% bonus to the daily closing price average of August.  The  swapping process will take place after the ICO and detailed information will be posted soon.

This is so wrong and missleading in all aspects.

you will recieve 0.00532074 BTC worth of something that has unknown value.
making whole conversion rate meaningless



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NXTventure is another one that has been finished for over a year. It has paid out in dividends more than I think any other NXT asset by value of dividends at the time it was sent out. Again, the future of NXTventure is hampered by all the changes with NXT that is out of my control, however I would consider NXTventure was completed.


What do you mean by 'finished' James? Will there be more dividends paid to NXTventure (is it still worth anything), or is it dead? What do you mean by "completed"? People still trading it ...

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So, what's the future of BTCD??

Because jl777 will be focusing on Komodo development, the BTCD will soon have no developers left. jl777 has repeatedly stated, that he has no binding obligation to continue to devote his time (for free) to BTCD development.


So we could say BTCD becomes Komodo, but technically the BTCD chain will remain intact (as this is no fork).


Thus everyone is encouraged to swap to Komodo. Komodo is the new BTCD!


I hope this answers your question!
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I'm on drugs, what's your excuse?
So, what's the future of BTCD??

Another footnote in history of crypto

Cheers Jon  Wink
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So, what's the future of BTCD??
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Looking forward to this project.

Considering to invest BTC in it

Kind regards,

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Start this new Komodo coin with snapshots just like NXT did. Everyone will be happy.

If we would have done that, then the BTCD price would have huge price volatility, and at the end of the snapshot the BTCD price would be close to zero. It would give nice profits to the day traders, but the casual BTCD holder would probably not be to happy.

Instead - and considering that we are here for the long term - we want to have a stable price and give an equal change for all to participate in the ICO. At the same time we want to reward the old BTCD 1.0 holders, and that is done by 50 % bonus to the average price of Auguist, and the new revenue asset.

Some BTCD holders have been very vocal about this, others understand the situation. We considered all the scenarios and we believe this one will give the best outcome for everyone, although there will always be some people who are unhappy.There is no reason to cancel or modify the ICO at this point.

jl777 has been the lead developer for BTCD a long time, and there hasn't been any funding for it. jl777 did not abandon BTCD! Instead he came up with a solution that will make sure the BTCD's vision for financial privacy if fulfilled.

If a developer joins a project in a midway, he is not bound to the investors in the same manner as if he would have raised a lot of money for the development. Even if that would be the case returns are never guaranteed. An investment in a startup is a high risk investment, and investing in cryptocurrency ICO's is little like investing in startups.

For those that do not know, James is an exceptional developer, as he doesn't abandon projects simply because the money ran out or because someone would pay him better in another project. In fact, he has been coding two years for free. Clearly money is not what motivates him, but the end result he strives for.

Without jl777 BTCD would probably have been forgotten a long time ago. However, now BTCD is transforming itself to Komodo: a cryptocurrency using all the latest technologies, and which will integrate to all the other projects James is developing.

I hope we could soon stop talking about BTCD and start talking about Komodo.  Wink
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