Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 1680. (Read 3074324 times)

to a regular person yes they would notice vocabulary but if you knew what dapps is and apps are then you know why im stating it. lisk states they have dapps and that youl be able to build dapps at launch when you clearly can't and liskHQ confirmed this indirectly.

also there are many problems that need solutions ofcourse we can say yes we will solve it we will solve it but until it is actually solved nothing they don't say dont mean anything ofcourse if they say we work to do it fair enough but here you got the problem no solution and your claiming it will work thats misleading again.

"Javascript has issues,"

yes it does when it comes to crypto currencies when it comes to apps no

"some smart person comes around and CREATES a solution for that issue,"

yes i'm waiting for you to show me the solution and the smart person who does it. do you have the code and the person

Javascript has one less issue"

until there is one,there is the issue

so the biggest concern you keep bringing up is the vocabulary used on dapps and apps?

This is what happens in real life,

Javascript has issues,
some smart person comes around and CREATES a solution for that issue,
Javascript has one less issue,

REPEAT

I remember what javascript was like before node.js,  You think they didn't shout from the mountain tops that JS couldn't handle serverside shit before node.js?

BIG NUMBER SOLUTION: bignumbers.js


Shit happens and things get solved.

Smart contracts are not the be all end all of crypto.  It just happens to be the Buzzword of the times.

thanks will look at it

see javascript is great for making apps a great UI and web apps etc but it being linked to crypto currency is the issue here. im sure they not building apps to make it look pretty it needs function well with crypto currencies. that's the challenge and most of us find it hard to see how it would work considering javascript when applied to crypto currency

this is my concern

"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."

lisk may be able to make great apps easily but deploying contracts etc using javascripts and cryptocurrency for those apps is going to be challenging.

also they dont have dapps right now on launch they won't have dapps you can make apps.

agree 1000%

I can't speak for anybody else, but I can tell you exactly why I bought into the ICO:

1. My first impression was that they are pretty good and really smart in marketing. While that can be a red flag if we think about shady projects it's a huge pro in serious and legit projects. Because it needs the ability to raise attention, not just to attract Investors but also Developers.

2. The team: Because I could not know if they are serious or shady I've read interviews and posts and then I was 100% sure that they are serious about this, that they will do all they can to make it successful. Of course, that doesn't say much about their abilities to do it, but in general my impression was and still is: It all is very thought out.

3. Regarding the tech: I'm not a tech guy but I think a lot about the natural conflicts between centralization and decentralization and my own theory is: It's not possible to be effective and totally decentralized at the same time. I believe that the best way is to have a decentralized core-Blockchain, simple and stable, but centralized applications that just anchor in the core chain. If you take Bitcoin for example: It's possible and not too hard to build on top of it. And many projects do that, like Factom for example which I know best. Multiple projects, some with their own blockchain and some without can do this without bloating the Bitcoin-Blockchain but securing itself in it, benefit from the huge security of the Bitcoin-Blockchain. The thing about it is: Some of those projects can fail, some can succeed, it won't ever hurt the Core. And: The economy stays decentralized because it's not just one economy. Ethereum does it the other way around. It's all on the blockchain, the tech can mess up because in my eyes it's overcomplex, it's one big economy and with the PoS-model they will switch to, I believe that even if the tech should work, the economy will lead into a centralizing effect. That's why I prefer projects that keep it simple at the core while making it possible to grow beyond itself.

Regarding node.js: I've asked a friend of mine who is a skilled Dev and under the line he said nearly exactly what Max said in this reply: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176

That it's all about how skilled they are with it. My hope is that they will hire more good Devs and then: If the core will be stable I don't see much reason to believe this project will fail. Dapps can fail in many ways but that won't hurt the potential of Lisk.

4. Crypti: I didn't even know about it. But while the fork is something that was criticized a lot I see a huge pro in it. The reason is simple: Crypti obviously worked well regarding the tech. At least I don't have other informations. It was just totally under the radar and the best projects will die without attention. So I also see a pro in the strategy to do exactly that (marketing) better with Lisk and obviously they know how to do it.

5. Usecases: Will Lisk be a project for the big companies, like banks and so on? I don't expect that. But if we think about the gaming sector, just for example, it can be big business and big money. And there are a lot of other use cases that have the potential to be part of a growing "Lisk-economy". It will be all about attracting Developers.

6. Conclusion: Is Lisk a safe bet? No. There is not a single project that is safe. We are in a high-risk-market. But if the core will be stable, if they attract and/or hire skilled Developers, I believe to see a lot of potential. And while it may be the complexity that could kill other projects, the simplicity of Lisk could turn out as big strength. That's really the main-reason why I bought into the ICO.

I used the one search engine to rule them all-- Dogpile.com

(Wayback Machine: DogPile.com)

Hey man, I liked hotbot.com

when the release day？

yeah, but there are far too many fudders on here who use spurious technical discussions to damage the rep of Lisk. i suggest they be funnelled to lisk.chat to be educated.

Certainly not.
Lisk needs a broadly positioned community.
And along with many other possibilities, Bitcointalk is a great platform and many users are very familiar with it.

They raised it because interest was very high for the project and because Ethereum was going through a massive pump (which I think is legitimate, I'm very bullish on Ether)... this led many people to hope that they could find the next moon rocket of x10+ returns. Timing really helped the LISK fundraising. Soon it will be time to put the funds to use and develop something truly meaningful, I'm excited to see what the team will do with the funds and what projects come out of this. The community is maybe a bit immature and mostly made up of moon kids, but, the team is serious in their desire to build something worthy of all this money raised.

Ofcourse not, this is a great place for discussion and getting attention to Lisk.

perhaps once the mainnet launches this thread should be closed with the last post being from LiskHQ with a link to lisk.chat

https://github.com/bitcoinjs/bip39

This enforces extremely secure passphrases.

Ok, thanks.  I have my code working.

Please explain what "BIP39" means?  If I generate my own accounts from random character strings, will this cause any issue?  What are the limitations enforced by BIP39?

We dont know what LISK price is currently, we know only LISK-IOU price. You probably meant that second price. Sure it is very possible that LISK price (if started from LISK-IOU level) may fall after launch.

May LISK's price fall after ICO coins distribution and probably price dumping by ICO participants?

lol..there's no way a coin written in javascript will survive the strommin'.. yubikeys haxxors lol ..proofs? 

if you ask me rtcrypto how did they raise all that. i wasnt here from the start so dont really want to go back 600 pages but did they have some marketing campaign going on how did they hype all this to raise so much. well as a trader i'm not happy i never bought as a investor/developer happy i didn't. i couldn't buy this at ICO price if i had the chance without seeing what they have planned and seeing through their double meanings

I'm semi concerned about that too. But, I'm much more interested in seeing the project attempt to work through all of this and develop something meaningful. Further, I'm also really interested in seeing a roadmap and team update/tech update on the plans for the millions of dollars - what devs are being hired? What's the plan? Where is this going in the vision of the team in place currently.

Right now there is not much brain power focused towards LISK - reading through this thread shows that 99% of the people here just want absurdly crazy ROI at any cost. Very little talk is about development or use cases almost all of it is just plain "moon for moon's sake".

Curious to see what substance the team can put together for 5 million bucks.