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April 19, 2016, 07:22:00 AM
April 19, 2016, 07:21:05 AM
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April 19, 2016, 07:20:21 AM
Question remains:
Eth comes out with completly full decentralized app from beginning and full functionally smart contracts.
Lisk comes out with NO decentralized app. Maybe later......
So,this is enough for me to understand the differences.
Eth comes out with completly full decentralized app from beginning and full functionally smart contracts.
Lisk comes out with NO decentralized app. Maybe later......
So,this is enough for me to understand the differences.
Eth didn't release anything for half a year...
April 19, 2016, 07:19:03 AM
Question remains:
Eth comes out with completly full decentralized app from beginning and full functionally smart contracts.
Lisk comes out with NO decentralized app. Maybe later......
So,this is enough for me to understand the differences.
Eth comes out with completly full decentralized app from beginning and full functionally smart contracts.
Lisk comes out with NO decentralized app. Maybe later......
So,this is enough for me to understand the differences.
You don't know anything about it.
April 19, 2016, 07:13:05 AM
Question remains:
Eth comes out with completly full decentralized app from beginning and full functionally smart contracts.
Lisk comes out with NO decentralized app. Maybe later......
So,this is enough for me to understand the differences.
Eth comes out with completly full decentralized app from beginning and full functionally smart contracts.
Lisk comes out with NO decentralized app. Maybe later......
So,this is enough for me to understand the differences.
April 19, 2016, 07:11:43 AM
After reading this comments, I cant really wait for next year 
April 19, 2016, 07:10:24 AM
I see what you mean, but, most "simply fun" apps don't really need to be decentralized. Now, building a serious poker engine or gambling engine or bringing on financial applications more generally into javascript? This is a problem I'd like to see addressed - how serious are the limitations of javascript for these sorts of use cases? Maybe there are legitimate ways around the problem?
Ethereum is using solidity for a reason, the fact that everything happens on chain is even more of an incentive to make sure things behave as they are intended to behave. In LISK, I think a possible advantage would be in that everything runs on a side chain - but, this opens up all kinds of questions about how chains interact and how the entire system reaches consensus on what is happening.
LISK might find a space that is worth hundreds of billions with "just fun" apps. So it might not matter. But, many of the serious and interesting use cases being explored and thought about in this space don't seem like a good fit for the architecture of LISK.
what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play.
Ethereum is using solidity for a reason, the fact that everything happens on chain is even more of an incentive to make sure things behave as they are intended to behave. In LISK, I think a possible advantage would be in that everything runs on a side chain - but, this opens up all kinds of questions about how chains interact and how the entire system reaches consensus on what is happening.
LISK might find a space that is worth hundreds of billions with "just fun" apps. So it might not matter. But, many of the serious and interesting use cases being explored and thought about in this space don't seem like a good fit for the architecture of LISK.
Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen.
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play.
they may not need to be decentralised but if the Javascript developer can increase his or her margins by dapping an existing app then they will do it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unnu2ov2w2Q
April 19, 2016, 06:57:43 AM
I see what you mean, but, most "simply fun" apps don't really need to be decentralized. Now, building a serious poker engine or gambling engine or bringing on financial applications more generally into javascript? This is a problem I'd like to see addressed - how serious are the limitations of javascript for these sorts of use cases? Maybe there are legitimate ways around the problem?
Ethereum is using solidity for a reason, the fact that everything happens on chain is even more of an incentive to make sure things behave as they are intended to behave. In LISK, I think a possible advantage would be in that everything runs on a side chain - but, this opens up all kinds of questions about how chains interact and how the entire system reaches consensus on what is happening.
LISK might find a space that is worth hundreds of billions with "just fun" apps. So it might not matter. But, many of the serious and interesting use cases being explored and thought about in this space don't seem like a good fit for the architecture of LISK.
what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play.
Ethereum is using solidity for a reason, the fact that everything happens on chain is even more of an incentive to make sure things behave as they are intended to behave. In LISK, I think a possible advantage would be in that everything runs on a side chain - but, this opens up all kinds of questions about how chains interact and how the entire system reaches consensus on what is happening.
LISK might find a space that is worth hundreds of billions with "just fun" apps. So it might not matter. But, many of the serious and interesting use cases being explored and thought about in this space don't seem like a good fit for the architecture of LISK.
Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen.
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play.
April 19, 2016, 06:53:10 AM
Can u tell me when lisk will be on exchanges ?
It should be on multiple exchanges at launch. Launch is planned around the end of April or beginning of May. We should get the launch date at some point soon so stay tuned.
April 19, 2016, 06:48:53 AM
Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen.
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
what percentage of existing apps are in the "serious financial applications" category of apps and what percentage are in the "fun" category (not sure how you are defining "fun" here)? the opportunity is where the masses play.
April 19, 2016, 06:47:02 AM
Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen.
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
you can build apps not dapps on lisk yet
April 19, 2016, 06:41:52 AM
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
the TCR thread is somewhere else. fudster.
April 19, 2016, 06:37:37 AM
has anyone read this
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
Looks like the Co-Founder of MyEtherWallet.com is trying hard to smear Lisk to keep her ETH wallet business from collapsing.
Someone please respond on stackexchange to defend Lisk and let us know so we can upvote your answer.
https://i.imgur.com/Zlugkmr.png
https://i.imgur.com/e7dQ3RP.png
I replied to that StackOverflow post: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176
It may not be the most technical answer, but Oliver is busy coding. He doesn't have the time to defend Lisk from people who are just trying to discredit it. As we said at the beginning of Lisk, just wait and see. We can talk all day, but at the end of the day our results will speak for themselves.
Perfect, "I say it again, we are in this "game" together."
That's why I do not understand this whole controversy between Lisk and Ethereum. We are all in the same boat guys...
April 19, 2016, 06:37:21 AM
Yes, this is a serious problem. In the end LISK might be useful for fun dapps, but serious financial applications are not going to be built on javascript. There is a reason for ETH using "a complicated language", as some have put it here. LISK might still find uses anyway, let's see... but, the idea that it will simple swallow Ethereum up is absurd. People are in for a disappointment if they think that this is what will happen.
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
April 19, 2016, 06:31:18 AM
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
Of course.
How could be innovative in 2016 a javascript coin? Lol, javascript,useful only for html site.
So,the biggest developer spent years studyng C++,Golang, now we are back in 1999 with javascript? lol. Crazy.
April 19, 2016, 06:24:09 AM
also as developers can use nodejs javascript on ethereum why aernt they using it now anyway
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
got my answer i read your reply
basically ethereum can use javascript for front end but for back end it has to be solidity.
could it be this reason why they dont want to use javascript for the backend
"Javascript numbers are....not the greatest or most reliable. Especially when we are dealing with a crypto-currency, you really want your numbers to be on point. Basically JS uses floating point which means some things get approximated and digits get lost in certain cases. Here's some further reading: Be careful with big numbers & Floating point appoximation. So, the fact that everything in Lisk (including Lisk itself) is in Javascript, it means there are potentially big number problems (both in terms of big numbers and big problems)."
April 19, 2016, 06:22:47 AM
Lisk doesn't have decentralize app!!
Open your eyes people!
Surely they will tell you that will be done in future....yes always soon,later,bla,bla.
It will not be launch with decentralized app. Basically it just another altcoin, nothing to compare with REAL dapps from eth.
No fuddig, just learn how to read code on github.
Open your eyes people!
Surely they will tell you that will be done in future....yes always soon,later,bla,bla.
It will not be launch with decentralized app. Basically it just another altcoin, nothing to compare with REAL dapps from eth.
No fuddig, just learn how to read code on github.
April 19, 2016, 06:01:38 AM
has anyone read this
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
Looks like the Co-Founder of MyEtherWallet.com is trying hard to smear Lisk to keep her ETH wallet business from collapsing.
Someone please respond on stackexchange to defend Lisk and let us know so we can upvote your answer.
https://i.imgur.com/Zlugkmr.png
https://i.imgur.com/e7dQ3RP.png
I replied to that StackOverflow post: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176
It may not be the most technical answer, but Oliver is busy coding. He doesn't have the time to defend Lisk from people who are just trying to discredit it. As we said at the beginning of Lisk, just wait and see. We can talk all day, but at the end of the day our results will speak for themselves.
Very good argument for a beautiful project !
April 19, 2016, 05:56:59 AM
has anyone read this
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
Looks like the Co-Founder of MyEtherWallet.com is trying hard to smear Lisk to keep her ETH wallet business from collapsing.
Someone please respond on stackexchange to defend Lisk and let us know so we can upvote your answer.
https://i.imgur.com/Zlugkmr.png
https://i.imgur.com/e7dQ3RP.png
I replied to that StackOverflow post: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176
It may not be the most technical answer, but Oliver is busy coding. He doesn't have the time to defend Lisk from people who are just trying to discredit it. As we said at the beginning of Lisk, just wait and see. We can talk all day, but at the end of the day our results will speak for themselves.
Well done!
April 19, 2016, 05:31:52 AM
has anyone read this
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum
Looks like the Co-Founder of MyEtherWallet.com is trying hard to smear Lisk to keep her ETH wallet business from collapsing.
Someone please respond on stackexchange to defend Lisk and let us know so we can upvote your answer.
https://i.imgur.com/Zlugkmr.png
https://i.imgur.com/e7dQ3RP.png
I replied to that StackOverflow post: http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176
It may not be the most technical answer, but Oliver is busy coding. He doesn't have the time to defend Lisk from people who are just trying to discredit it. As we said at the beginning of Lisk, just wait and see. We can talk all day, but at the end of the day our results will speak for themselves.
nice reply, but you really do need to get that legal entity incorporated. as i said before, it's something that should have been put in place at the beginning of this entire process.
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