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Think or swim.
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The lisk hq did a dpos sistem so we investors can expect something in return.So,voting for peapole who actually give somenthing back.
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Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?

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Do we need to register somewhere for thar refund or you will distrubute 1LSK for all voters who vote for the three delegates?
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Hmm..Sounds good, but design need attention
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We love blockchain !
I am proud Lisk bagholder xD
I would like to ask you what with LISK rebranding  I heard it was planned for August but as everyone can see there's end of September and still nothing happend...
Etheteum is one step from entering the mainstream and what with Lisk?

Do not expect any "visual" rebranding before the end of october.
Now, their are working on the coding -> design phase is over.
I think it will be sequential. Frist news mid-october, let's hope a full rebranding before the end of the year !
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We love blockchain !

To those who said DPOS is ruled by whales, please remind that small fishes can be more powerfull than whales !
Join the movment ...




Good news ... LiberSpirita will refund the 1 LSK spend to all voters how will vote for RobinHood, LiberSpirita and Liskpro.com before the 1st of October !

Imagine, you can vote without losing any LISK ! Yeah : free vote to get more Lisk from the pool. Isn't it beautifull ?

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You guys continue arguing because you don't want to gain less money than you do. That's all.

That's fun the two of you are amongst the less sharing delegates of the top101 list.

And you keep arguing while there are lots of delegates SHARING far more than you AND still CONTRIBUTING to the community and the LISK ecosystem.

You just don't seem to like that we share through donations to projects instead of directly to voters.  We do share a lot more then you are trying to give us credit for.
You also seem to be ignoring the delegates that are contributing less and sharing the same or less then us too.

I'm also still curious what you think of the lightcurve delegate

I don't like the fact you don't share most of your earnings, and that's a lot of money you keep for what ? Yourself, for later ?

I reply to you and talk about you because you share almost nothing to your voters (and not a lot at all even if we look at what you give for projects and stuff) and you try to justify yourself here. I would be pleased to talk with other delegates telling us we're greedy and they're not, and that voting/holding is pretty like doing nothing for the LISK community Wink

You sit on a gold mine and don't want to move. I understand that. But don't pretend what you do is the right thing to do.


A) I'm not that kind of guy who will say "i've done this, i've done that, please give me something". I do if i think i can and i don't wait for anyone 1) to tell me to help 2) to thank me because i helped.
Then I have to assume that you are doing nothing, and don't plan to do anything in the future. Then tell me, why do you expect to get a bigger part of the cake when you actually to nothing to earn that bigger part?


I know my english is not really good, that's not my mother tongue. But you really don't understand what i said, right ? Which part of this quote means that "i do nothing and i plan to do nothing" ? Please, tell me. I'm eager to know !

About truncating what i said, i have to insist, that's insulting and unfair, because you remove the part you don't like while a sentence has to be understood as a whole. But it seems pretty clear for me now that respect and fair are not part of your behavior.
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A) I'm not that kind of guy who will say "i've done this, i've done that, please give me something". I do if i think i can and i don't wait for anyone 1) to tell me to help 2) to thank me because i helped.
Then I have to assume that you are doing nothing, and don't plan to do anything in the future. Then tell me, why do you expect to get a bigger part of the cake when you actually to nothing to earn that bigger part?

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B) Do not truncate what i say. That's insulting but maybe that's the way you thank your voters.
I truncate to make it easier to follow the discussion.

Yes, I'm very thankful for my voters. I thank them by working every day for Lisk, trying to increase its value! And I thank users and projects by donating to them. And I will keep doing this.
That's my last response. I need my time to do useful work for Lisk. To increase it's value. Let me know when you actually have done something valuable for Lisk.
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I am proud Lisk bagholder xD
I would like to ask you what with LISK rebranding  I heard it was planned for August but as everyone can see there's end of September and still nothing happend...
Etheteum is one step from entering the mainstream and what with Lisk?

Hi!

Here is the blog post Lisk HQ recently posted about the rebrand timeline: https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-rebrand-development-timeline-76bbf1f81cf5
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You guys continue arguing because you don't want to gain less money than you do. That's all.

That's fun the two of you are amongst the less sharing delegates of the top101 list.

And you keep arguing while there are lots of delegates SHARING far more than you AND still CONTRIBUTING to the community and the LISK ecosystem.

You just don't seem to like that we share through donations to projects instead of directly to voters.  We do share a lot more then you are trying to give us credit for.
You also seem to be ignoring the delegates that are contributing less and sharing the same or less then us too.

I'm also still curious what you think of the lightcurve delegate

Edit: If you want us to share more with you, just show us something you are working on for Lisk.  We reward contributions, not the size of your wallet.  Your sharing will just lead to the rich getting richer issue that many don't like too
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You guys continue arguing because you don't want to gain less money than you do. That's all.

That's fun the two of you are amongst the less sharing delegates of the top101 list.

And you keep arguing while there are lots of delegates SHARING far more than you AND still CONTRIBUTING to the community and the LISK ecosystem.

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... we just want a bigger part of the cake...
Then do something useful for Lisk. Organize a meetup. tweet about it. Explain it to friends. Write a tool. Publish a website. Do ANYTHING, let me know and I'm very happy to award you with much more than only a few single LSK for voting. Help contributing to Lisk by increasing its value. That's how you will get a bigger part of the cake.

This!  I will and have gladly donated to people contributing.  

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B) Being voters, being holders, being buyers and not sellers is already helping LSK to grow. If you can't see it, you're blind.

If this is what should be rewarded then I should be rewarding myself too just for this Smiley  As I have bought more lisk, voted, and hold.  So I'm helping Lisk grow though that and contributions, so I guess I should be giving myself double  Wink
In reality though, voters and holders already get rewarded by the people and delegates that work on projects on Lisk and increase it's value.  So those people are already getting their share.  If they also wanted their account to be like a savings account where they earn interest on their holdings, that is what PoS is  Wink
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Well voters HOLD LSK, vote for you people, that's why YOU can forge and contribute and share and donate. And voters don't sell it even if they could gain large benefits by doing it.
That's exactly how the system should work. And don't forget the most important thing about delegates: They are those who secure the network and process the blocks. And a secure and stable network is important for Lisk to succeed.

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... we just want a bigger part of the cake...
Then do something useful for Lisk. Organize a meetup. tweet about it. Explain it to friends. Write a tool. Publish a website. Do ANYTHING, let me know and I'm very happy to award you with much more than only a few single LSK for voting. Help contributing to Lisk by increasing its value. That's how you will get a bigger part of the cake.

A) I'm not that kind of guy who will say "i've done this, i've done that, please give me something". I do if i think i can and i don't wait for anyone 1) to tell me to help 2) to thank me because i helped.

B) Do not truncate what i say. That's insulting but maybe that's the way you thank your voters.
I said :
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Well voters HOLD LSK, vote for you people, that's why YOU can forge and contribute and share and donate. And voters don't sell it even if they could gain large benefits by doing it.

But continue to insult us while we just want a bigger part of the cake we help you to make days after days ; we won't forget.

AGAIN : Being voters, being holders, being buyers and not sellers is already helping LSK to grow. If you can't see it, you're blind.

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Well voters HOLD LSK, vote for you people, that's why YOU can forge and contribute and share and donate. And voters don't sell it even if they could gain large benefits by doing it.
That's exactly how the system should work. And don't forget the most important thing about delegates: They are those who secure the network and process the blocks. And a secure and stable network is important for Lisk to succeed.

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... we just want a bigger part of the cake...
Then do something useful for Lisk. Organize a meetup. tweet about it. Explain it to friends. Write a tool. Publish a website. Do ANYTHING, let me know and I'm very happy to award you with much more than only a few single LSK for voting. Help contributing to Lisk by increasing its value. That's how you will get a bigger part of the cake.
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Telling us that WE are greedy voters because we want you to share more is INSULTING.

I did't call you greedy, I called the delegate that just sells what they don't share greedy  Smiley
Also, you are not looking at the whole picture.  Just because I don't share how you want me to, doesn't mean I don't share a lot.  
I have a 5% share that originally was supposed to just be a thank you to voters.  Then I also donate to the gdtpool every week, so that more than doubles my sharing (this is just like elite pool where they all donate to one account that gives out the funds, we have a similar concept).  Then I have a large chunck of my forged funds reserved for donations.  This fund I have used several times already to make donations.  So that is the big way I share.  Same type of concept as Lisk HQ's community fund Smiley

So when you look at the whole picture I reserve around 50% of my forged lisk to share and donate.

Would you also call lightcurve a greedy delegate since it shares nothing and just goes to the employees of Lisk HQ??

Do not try to avoid the fact you're not sharing to your voters as much as lots of other delegates do, even if they contribute to the community, even delegates who are in your own pool. You're not sharing 50% of your LSK back to the community, that's a pretty big lie.

That's not some kind of dilemma mate. You can share more to your voters AND contribute as you do. You can do both, you know you do, you gain enough to do both.
You earn lots of LSK from your delegate position, i made a calculation mistake previously, that's almost 3000 LSK a week you gain, right ?
With the price of LSK on the market, that's a lot of money, we don't talk about LSK price several months ago.


And for the greedy/insulting part i was talking to your mate cc001, who is now telling this kind of thing about voters who don't agree with the way you do :
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"Actually I think you are here trying to hurt Lisk and people should ignore your comments
Or this
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So, .cryptic. tell me who is greedy here:
1) the delegates spending 25% to people contributing to Lisk and promising projects,
2) voters who try to get higher rewards by doing absolutely NOTHING for Lisk

It reminds me of politicians tactics and replies.
*spits*

Well voters HOLD LSK, vote for you people, that's why YOU can forge and contribute and share and donate. And voters don't sell it even if they could gain large benefits by doing it.

But continue to insult us while we just want a bigger part of the cake we help you to make days after days ; we won't forget.
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Telling us that WE are greedy voters because we want you to share more is INSULTING.

I did't call you greedy, I called the delegate that just sells what they don't share greedy  Smiley
Also, you are not looking at the whole picture.  Just because I don't share how you want me to, doesn't mean I don't share a lot.  
I have a 5% share that originally was supposed to just be a thank you to voters.  Then I also donate to the gdtpool every week, so that more than doubles my sharing (this is just like elite pool where they all donate to one account that gives out the funds, we have a similar concept).  Then I have a large chunck of my forged funds reserved for donations.  This fund I have used several times already to make donations.  So that is the big way I share.  Same type of concept as Lisk HQ's community fund Smiley

So when you look at the whole picture I reserve around 50% of my forged lisk to share and donate.

Would you also call lightcurve a greedy delegate since it shares nothing and just goes to the employees of Lisk HQ??
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Delegates actually earn forging more than 2800 LSK per WEEK* (or prove me i'm wrong). Telling us that WE are greedy voters because we want you to share more is INSULTING.




* 10s per block, 8640 per day, 60480 per week 5 LSK per block / 101 delegates

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I am proud Lisk bagholder xD
I would like to ask you what with LISK rebranding  I heard it was planned for August but as everyone can see there's end of September and still nothing happend...
Etheteum is one step from entering the mainstream and what with Lisk?
https://blog.lisk.io/lisk-rebrand-development-timeline-76bbf1f81cf5
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I am proud Lisk bagholder xD
I would like to ask you what with LISK rebranding  I heard it was planned for August but as everyone can see there's end of September and still nothing happend...
Etheteum is one step from entering the mainstream and what with Lisk?
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You're trying to avoid the fact that you share nearly nothing from your forging.

You help the community, yes, okay that's right, and that's why me for example, i wouldn't complain about you sharing, say, 25%.

But 0% or 5% is greedy, even if you help the community.

And i'd rather see every delegate sharing more than 50%, not 0 or 5% like you... Even 30% min from each delegate would be a big improvement.

Nobody here asks you to share 90, 80, 70% from your forging reward.

Telling us that it's "me helping with stuff OR me sharing" is a false dilemma. You know that. There are delegates, even in your own pool, who do both.

And, plus, i don't defend Elite pool. They are bad too. Your two pools are bad for the community, with too much power in the hands of only 2 entities, and very little sharing output...

Doing this, you won't get LSK to rise above its current price, because people, small voters/owners won't simply buy and hold their LSK when there's so little benefits, they'll rather sell it everytime it rises and buy it when it falls.



(i don't approve what techbytes did with his LSK, selling lots of it for selfish profits is bad, and i've already voted for "delegate" GDTpool and don't plan to unvote it)
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