Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 181. (Read 3074131 times)

I'll try again since you didn't reply to be above:
So it's a waste of money to vote for me, even though I provide a lot for the lisk community?  Including closing Github issues at lisk's beginning, providing lisktools.io (which does need to be updated, but waiting for Lisk 1.0 with new API), and providing the Lisk Android Wallet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mrv.liskgdt.wallet
gr33ndrag0n is bad even though he has been the one providing the most reliable snapshots for everyone, makes sure snapshots work with new lisk releases, and has provided alternate wallets and explorer sine the beginning?
hmachado is bad even though he has provided liskak for all delegates to keep their nodes running smoothly
4miners.net is bad even though he has provided great new explorer features and has contributed to closing GitHub issues.
...
I could go on  

Edit: Are you friends with techbytes?    I have nothing against him, but he openly stated that if people didn't like that he sold his lisk that he said was reserved for App development on Lisk then he should be unvoted.  I find it interesting that you are pushing for him when he sold almost all of his lisk, but you call the people on your list the greedy ones that should be unvoted 

Please unvote the following delegates

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only
+ joel: 15%
+ dakk: 15%
+ 4miners.net: 0%
+ cc001: 0%
+ digitron: 0%
+ hmachado: 0%
+ grumlin: 0%
+ goldeneye: 0%
+ liskgate: 0%
+ punkrock: 0%
+ gr33ndrag0n: 0%

It is a waste of money and time to vote for delegates that share nothing to voters. It is simply too greedy

All of them are from GDTPool

Also, vote for techbytes because he shares 90% reward https://lisk.cryptopools.com


Delegate owners please contact http://earnlisk.com/ owner to update your profit sharing ratio

When will the byteball distribution be over   I have a feeling that somewhere in a first half of 2018 there will be an airdrop for users who links their lisk addresses. Great times ahead for Lisk, who is selling in 2017 instead of buying will regret it in the future.

Lisk met with The Weekly Economist for an interview in #Tokyo.
https://twitter.com/LiskHQ/status/912340994242351105

   

All voters with a balance (even as low as .00001) are paid. 

Next payout if active will be at 90%.

https://lisk.cryptopools.com


-tb-

it will take you some minutes to place your votes. but if you do it only once then i would try it. and it will take some time to receive the first payouts with your balance.

If you have 1 k lisk and vote for pools above 50% can you earn something or its a waste of time?

Other than the rate which seems to be better at the moment.

Congratz everyone! we did it -> techbytes not forging anymore! [/]

everyone thank you for supporting this action.

So I'm bad for voters, even though I provide a lot for the lisk community?  Including closing Github issues at lisk's beginning, providing lisktools.io (which does need to be updated, but waiting for Lisk 1.0 with new API), and providing the Lisk Android Wallet https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mrv.liskgdt.wallet
gr33ndrag0n is bad even though he has been the one providing the most reliable snapshots for everyone, makes sure snapshots work with new lisk releases, and has provided alternate wallets and explorer sine the beginning?
hmachado is bad even though he has provided liskak for all delegates to keep their nodes running smoothly
4miners.net is bad even though he has provided great new explorer features and has contributed to closing GitHub issues.
...
I could go on  

If you just care about getting percentage returns on your holdings, then I think you are looking for PoS coins  


-If you are worried about GDT having 1/3 the forging power, I can only image what you think of Elite with over 1/2    You also have to understand GDT is not just a pool, that's the bonus part.  We try to make sure our members are actively contributing to the system.  Whether it's writing scripts, fixing GitHub issues, doing social media, creating new sites and apps, participating in lisk.chat and helping newcomers, etc.

-I agree voting fees need to be lower and everyone hopes they will be with lisk 1.0
-Changing to 1000 delegates is not easy; you are changing the whole consensus of the system by 10x.  Also, currently I don't think there are 1000 unique delegates that are running nodes 24/7.  You would get a lot of people running multiple nodes since the barrier for entry is so low.  At this point too, you might as well just be PoS.
-As for a minimal sharing; that's not the point of DPoS.  DPoS is about rewarding delegates that are working hard for the system and actively contributing to it.  That's where DPoS has an advantage over PoS.  In PoS a lot of people just sit idle and let their wallet get a return like a savings account, since there is no incentive to do more.  In DPoS if active delegates aren't working to improve the system, voters should unvote them and get someone else worthy in.

Okay.
150 LSK per delegate/GDTmember per week.
And how many LSK does one delegate earn each week forging ? How many blocks are forged by one individual delegate each week ?

Tell me if i'm wrong :

10s per block / 6 blocks per minute / 360 blocks per hour / 8640 blocks per day / 60480 blocks per week.

Let's say each delegate forges the exact same number of blocks. 600 blocks per week per delegate on average ?

That's... yes : 3000 LSK per week. Giving 150 LSK per week = 5% sharing.

5%, guys. Are you kidding us ?

If you keep giving 150 LSK a week per delegate, voting for you could be interesting when forging give 1 LSK per block. In 4 years i'll reconsider




Me and lots of people here barely even get 2 LSK a month. Even when one get, say, 10 LSK a month, that's not worth it. Only whales can afford to vote for you...
And even with bigger rewards a month, i won't votepay to keep my votes up-to-date with your unstable member list, to support so many people who keep nearly 90% (or even more) of their forging outputs for their own wealth.

There are ONLY 101 delegates, and i think giving one third of this forging power to 1 POOL only is a very big mistake, moreover when this pool at a whole clearly doesn't want to share its rewards with voters/LSK owners.


I think LSK needs :

More delegates (1000)
Lower voting fees
A mininum sharing of 50% per delegate

Sounds cool but I think that you should have done it earlier.
I mean, most of the people already offer you much more then that and I don't think that they are going to just return to your pool.
I believe that the actual fair rate should be something around 80%

I have some LSK at Bittrex for long time and never withdrew them seeing there is going to rebranding was extra reason to let them there. I see this voting discussion on previous pages that brings income. Am I late for this to cast my vote or still can proceed after withdrawing from there ? When actually the rebranding is going to take place, any estimate ?

too late. you should have shared more from the beginning. i hope that nobody will vote you because of the increased sharing amount.

i think i have to make a list of delegates that suddenly start to share more.

Hello everyone!
As not everyone would know, I am an early supporter of Lisk running nodes since april 2016  
I want to inform you guys that I decided to increase my share with my voters from 25% to 50% starting this week! - weekly payouts
For more details about my donations and sharing distribution here is my proposal and my pool stats page: https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=136&p=494#p494
Vote for samuray - rank 92 !  

sorry, but GDT members share even less than elite. so i won't vote for you.
after unvoting elite i have still 51 votes left. 51 votes for pools that are more than 51%.

I´m using this one:
https://dpostools.com/LISK/holderview/yourLISKaddress

via https://dpostools.com/LISK/ only, you can recognize how much "Lisk Elite" has overtaken the 101 delegates list meanwhile.
Just consider the many black /!\ at the right side - each of them is is a "Elite" member paying lousy 25%. Don't support them.

Please unvote the following delegates

+ corsaro: 10% share only
+ tembo: 15% share only
+ mrv: 5% share only
+ redsn0w: 10% share only
+ splatters: 10% share only
+ joel: 15%
+ dakk: 15%
+ 4miners.net: 0%
+ cc001: 0%
+ digitron: 0%
+ hmachado: 0%
+ grumlin: 0%
+ goldeneye: 0%
+ liskgate: 0%
+ punkrock: 0%
+ gr33ndrag0n: 0%

All of them are from GDTPool. GDTPool is very bad for voters

Is there a calculator for earning by votint for a delegate?

you need to understand, if you have less than 100k lsk and ask this all question its bad! whales decide always