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Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 1935. (Read 3074324 times)

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(snip)

In the meantime could someone kindly answer the following:  There are two LISK holders: HolderA (10 Lisk) and HolderB (200 Lisk) and 200 Delegates: Delegate1 ... Delegate200.  
1) Presumably if HolderA votes for only Delegate1 then Delegate1 gets 1,000,000,000 votes, however, if HolderA votes for Delegate1 and Delegate2 then they both only get 500,000,000 votes?

(snip)

As stated before, in the scenario mentioned, Delegates1 and 2 both get 1,000,000,000 votes. Which I don't like, because I think it scales badly. In the scenario, HolderB is in absolute control over who gets elected and who doesn't. If they would have to spread out their votes, HolderA could at least vote for some Delegates…

Ok, I did the math and apparently, I am stupid Tongue
As long as your voting power is evenly distributed, there is no difference between the two systems.
My bad.
legendary
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Wrong. The amount raised is for Lisk development and not Crypti...


It is.

But I'm sure a new influx of developers will start using the Lisk codebase to update Crypti to the same levels.
Probably they're already buying up XCR, why else did the price rise op from 1300 Satoshi's to what it is now?
hero member
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Wrong. The amount raised is for Lisk development and not Crypti...

LISK AND CRYPTI WILL GROW TOGETHER

New Link for the CryptiWallet is

https://cryptiwallet.lisk.io/


LiskHQ (Max) is trying to find Devs for Crypti

(source) https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=654463.12260


I'm not trying to find developers. Just stated if someone wants to "take over" Crypti development, he should get in contact with me. Smiley

If I had the coding capabilities to do so, I would. But I'm sure developers will jump on it once they can use the Lisk development to improve Crypti.


7 million dollar for lisk development and Crypti improvement

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y²=x3+ax+b, a=0,b=7
As a non-technical LISK ICO holder I am struggling to understand the voting process.  I've read most of these posts and Section B in the handbook and it's not entirely clear.  In this thread I see a lot of confusion and questions.  Part of the confusion is that the term "vote" is overloaded - seems to define both a measure of support and the act of giving support to a max of 33 delegates.  Hence a "vote" can refer to both 0.00000001 Lisk and 1 Lisk.

It would be good if Section B was expanded to further explain
1) the process when a Lisk holder makes a vote (i.e. spends 1 Lisk) and how their holding affects the delegate approvals.
If a user makes a vote (spends 1 LISK) all the delegates he voted for receive the number of votes equally to the voters amount of LISK. E.g. if you own 1M LISK he will at the beginning get about 1% approval.

2) when do approvals change and when does the list of active delegates change
Every round they change, so about every 17 minutes.

3) when and how uptime changes the active delegate rankings
AFAIK the uptime is also updated every 17 minutes. However, the uptime is independent of the delegate rank. Only the amount the approval matters.

In the meantime could someone kindly answer the following:  There are two LISK holders: HolderA (10 Lisk) and HolderB (200 Lisk) and 200 Delegates: Delegate1 ... Delegate200.  
1) Presumably if HolderA votes for only Delegate1 then Delegate1 gets 1,000,000,000 votes, however, if HolderA votes for Delegate1 and Delegate2 then they both only get 500,000,000 votes?
Right now both receive 1,000,000,000 votes.

2) Presumably a holder can vote more than once a delegate round including withdrawing votes?
The vote always only has the power of your current LISK balance. You can't vote several times for 1 delegate, unless you remove your vote from him before.

3) Where are the approvals stored? In the blockchain?
Yes.

4) Presumably the block forger maintains the active delegate list?
What do you mean?

Thanks for the answers. Is much more clear to me now.
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Decentralized Application Platform
As a non-technical LISK ICO holder I am struggling to understand the voting process.  I've read most of these posts and Section B in the handbook and it's not entirely clear.  In this thread I see a lot of confusion and questions.  Part of the confusion is that the term "vote" is overloaded - seems to define both a measure of support and the act of giving support to a max of 33 delegates.  Hence a "vote" can refer to both 0.00000001 Lisk and 1 Lisk.

It would be good if Section B was expanded to further explain
1) the process when a Lisk holder makes a vote (i.e. spends 1 Lisk) and how their holding affects the delegate approvals.
If a user makes a vote (spends 1 LISK) all the delegates he voted for receive the number of votes equally to the voters amount of LISK. E.g. if you own 1M LISK he will at the beginning get about 1% approval.

2) when do approvals change and when does the list of active delegates change
Every round they change, so about every 17 minutes.

3) when and how uptime changes the active delegate rankings
AFAIK the uptime is also updated every 17 minutes. However, the uptime is independent of the delegate rank. Only the amount the approval matters.

In the meantime could someone kindly answer the following:  There are two LISK holders: HolderA (10 Lisk) and HolderB (200 Lisk) and 200 Delegates: Delegate1 ... Delegate200.  
1) Presumably if HolderA votes for only Delegate1 then Delegate1 gets 1,000,000,000 votes, however, if HolderA votes for Delegate1 and Delegate2 then they both only get 500,000,000 votes?
Right now both receive 1,000,000,000 votes.

2) Presumably a holder can vote more than once a delegate round including withdrawing votes?
The vote always only has the power of your current LISK balance. You can't vote several times for 1 delegate, unless you remove your vote from him before.

3) Where are the approvals stored? In the blockchain?
Yes.

4) Presumably the block forger maintains the active delegate list?
What do you mean?

legendary
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Antifragile
Huge news




A very well known Developer in the JavaScript community is building Dapps for Lisk.

https://twitter.com/boxxa


 Grin

Wow, really nice start. This again is the thing - So many Javascript developers out there. And those looking to create a potentially money making dapp now have a platform out there in LISK in which to do so and do so VERY VERY quickly.

Are there any downfalls in Javascript instead of a proprietary language like Ethereum is using? I saw something about memory usage but I'm not familiar here.
legendary
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1. All fees will be changed before we launch.
2. All fees can be changed later on.
3. You can vote for 33 delegates in one go. That means voting for 101 delegates takes 4 votes minimum.

ok, it's good, but what with the rewards per block for delegate? 5 Lisk is much more... see that
hero member
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(snip)

In the meantime could someone kindly answer the following:  There are two LISK holders: HolderA (10 Lisk) and HolderB (200 Lisk) and 200 Delegates: Delegate1 ... Delegate200.  
1) Presumably if HolderA votes for only Delegate1 then Delegate1 gets 1,000,000,000 votes, however, if HolderA votes for Delegate1 and Delegate2 then they both only get 500,000,000 votes?

(snip)

As stated before, in the scenario mentioned, Delegates1 and 2 both get 1,000,000,000 votes. Which I don't like, because I think it scales badly. In the scenario, HolderB is in absolute control over who gets elected and who doesn't. If they would have to spread out their votes, HolderA could at least vote for some Delegates…
hero member
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y²=x3+ax+b, a=0,b=7
As a non-technical LISK ICO holder I am struggling to understand the voting process.  I've read most of these posts and Section B in the handbook and it's not entirely clear.  In this thread I see a lot of confusion and questions.  Part of the confusion is that the term "vote" is overloaded - seems to define both a measure of support and the act of giving support to a max of 33 delegates.  Hence a "vote" can refer to both 0.00000001 Lisk and 1 Lisk.

It would be good if Section B was expanded to further explain
1) the process when a Lisk holder makes a vote (i.e. spends 1 Lisk) and how their holding affects the delegate approvals.
2) when do approvals change and when does the list of active delegates change
3) when and how uptime changes the active delegate rankings

In the meantime could someone kindly answer the following:  There are two LISK holders: HolderA (10 Lisk) and HolderB (200 Lisk) and 200 Delegates: Delegate1 ... Delegate200.  
1) Presumably if HolderA votes for only Delegate1 then Delegate1 gets 1,000,000,000 votes, however, if HolderA votes for Delegate1 and Delegate2 then they both only get 500,000,000 votes?
2) Presumably a holder can vote more than once a delegate round including withdrawing votes?
3) Where are the approvals stored? In the blockchain?
4) Presumably the block forger maintains the active delegate list?

Good questions, I am also interested  in answers from the dev.
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As a non-technical LISK ICO holder I am struggling to understand the voting process.  I've read most of these posts and Section B in the handbook and it's not entirely clear.  In this thread I see a lot of confusion and questions.  Part of the confusion is that the term "vote" is overloaded - seems to define both a measure of support and the act of giving support to a max of 33 delegates.  Hence a "vote" can refer to both 0.00000001 Lisk and 1 Lisk.

It would be good if Section B was expanded to further explain
1) the process when a Lisk holder makes a vote (i.e. spends 1 Lisk) and how their holding affects the delegate approvals.
2) when do approvals change and when does the list of active delegates change
3) when and how uptime changes the active delegate rankings

In the meantime could someone kindly answer the following:  There are two LISK holders: HolderA (10 Lisk) and HolderB (200 Lisk) and 200 Delegates: Delegate1 ... Delegate200.  
1) Presumably if HolderA votes for only Delegate1 then Delegate1 gets 1,000,000,000 votes, however, if HolderA votes for Delegate1 and Delegate2 then they both only get 500,000,000 votes?
2) Presumably a holder can vote more than once a delegate round including withdrawing votes?
3) Where are the approvals stored? In the blockchain?
4) Presumably the block forger maintains the active delegate list?
sr. member
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to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?




Yes

And then to vote for 101 delegates ... if LISK let say will worth 0.02BTC will be 2.02BTC ... why someone will pay this amount?

Then the amount could be lowered.
of course the price should change along the price changing. Or even pay for become a delegate could be expensive

1. All fees will be changed before we launch.
2. All fees can be changed later on.
3. You can vote for 33 delegates in one go. That means voting for 101 delegates takes 4 votes minimum.

to vote for 33 delegates in one go is ok. Thanks for clarification.
hero member
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to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?




Yes

And then to vote for 101 delegates ... if LISK let say will worth 0.02BTC will be 2.02BTC ... why someone will pay this amount?

Then the amount could be lowered.
of course the price should change along the price changing. Or even pay for become a delegate could be expensive

1. All fees will be changed before we launch.
2. All fees can be changed later on.
3. You can vote for 33 delegates in one go. That means voting for 101 delegates takes 4 votes minimum.
legendary
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to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?




Yes

And then to vote for 101 delegates ... if LISK let say will worth 0.02BTC will be 2.02BTC ... why someone will pay this amount?

Then the amount could be lowered.
of course the price should change along the price changing. Or even pay for become a delegate could be expensive
legendary
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Merit: 1002
Waves | 3PHMaGNeTJfqFfD4xuctgKdoxLX188QM8na

to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?




Yes

And then to vote for 101 delegates ... if LISK let say will worth 0.02BTC will be 2.02BTC ... why someone will pay this amount?

Then the amount could be lowered.
sr. member
Activity: 272
Merit: 250

to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?




Yes

And then to vote for 101 delegates ... if LISK let say will worth 0.02BTC will be 2.02BTC ... why someone will pay this amount?

legendary
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to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?


Yes
sr. member
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to vote for someone to be a delegate, is needed to pay a fee 1 LISK?
legendary
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signature campaign payments?  Roll Eyes
after release, around May if i'm not wrong
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signature campaign payments?  Roll Eyes
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