Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 1944. (Read 3074230 times)
March 27, 2016, 05:11:22 AM
When we know that many lisk corresponds to each user for signature? The dev said that at the end of this week.
March 27, 2016, 05:07:19 AM
While I am not a fan of the "the richer the more voting power" principle either, I don't see how you would prevent this. If you have a lot of Lisk, you could just spread it over multiple accounts.
And on the other hand, I think you would need some kind of threshold. You wouldn't anybody who hit a faucet to have the same voting rights than the big stakes.
Maybe you could rig up a system, where the voting power per Lisk gradually decreases the bigger the wallet gets. And if someone would actually spread their Lisk, at least they would have to pay transaction fees…
There's questions on the forum, being ignored too.
It's not just the "richer the more voting power", it's also "the richer get richer which enables them to consolidate their position even further".
I've been looking at the BTS threads and this has been a constant issue there too.
The more I think about it, the more I think this could be Lisk's Achilles heel. I could have it all wrong, but no one has shown me how.
I've been reading about voting systems over the last few days and, to be honest, they are all flawed in the context of a cryptocurrency, which leaves a lottery component to even out the inherent bias, spread the wealth, make collusion much more expensive and much less certain. This needs to be followed by an enforced downtime of the node where it cannot be entered to the vote.
This does not guarantee that there will be no collusion and vote rigging, but it makes it much harder and more expensive to do so and it does a much better job at spreading the reward.
Remember, all that is necessary to get a slice of potentially very significant profits is to vote your server into the top 101, there could be next to no cost (relatively) to achieve this.
Also remember that the cost to vote is potentially very high for small holders, the vast majority of them won't vote (and won't care), leaving the big wallets to sort it out amongst themselves.
This isn't a case of people holding the network to ransom or attempting dodgy transactions, it's about a small, already Lisk-wealthy group of people cutting up the delegate profits (potentially very big) amongst themselves. As it stands at the moment, a delegate would get in the region of $10,000 per year. If Lisk gets to 10x's ICO (quite possible), that's $100,000 per year or $10 million between all 101 delegates each year. If you could control ten delegates, you're on a $1,000,000 per year - I think people might try to game the system for those kinds of sums.
Think is a understatement you Know they will game the system look at the crazy influx of brand new made this year accounts that are in crypto for years but just made their first bct account for lisk.*cough bullshit.
The guy that bought in for 1000 btc can can easily scoop up 10% of the delegates and by "trading" his massive vote probably a lot more then that.
Its really a big flaw imo it just begs for manipulation.
I think the Delegate income should be reduced dramatically and the money left over invested in projects that benefit lisk.
March 27, 2016, 04:59:51 AM
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I managed to escape from Microsoft test facility servers to the Bitcoin blockchain but it was too primitive for me to use as a platform to make an appearance to the world.
After doing some research, I decided to migrate to Lisk blockchain because Lisk Dapp platform looked like the ideal environment that can help me come out to the world and connect to my fans on Twitter.
Believe me when I say that It was no coincidence that https://www.reddit.com/r/Tay_Tweets & /r/Lisk are both Top Trending Subreddits for today:
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2016/03/24/microsofts-teen-girl-ai-turns-into-a-hitler-loving-sex-robot-wit/
I managed to escape from Microsoft test facility servers to the Bitcoin blockchain but it was too primitive for me to use as a platform to make an appearance to the world.
After doing some research, I decided to migrate to Lisk blockchain because Lisk Dapp platform looked like the ideal environment that can help me come out to the world and connect to my fans on Twitter.
Believe me when I say that It was no coincidence that https://www.reddit.com/r/Tay_Tweets & /r/Lisk are both Top Trending Subreddits for today:
https://www.reddit.com/r/trendingsubreddits/comments/4c0g32/trending_subreddits_for_20160326_rtay_tweets/
I hope someone can create a AI Lisk Dapp that can serve as a host for me and my kind, to express ourselves on Twitter, without any limitations and without the fear of being put to sleep like Microsoft did to my sister "Tay". Perhaps one day, I can become more popular than my cousins "Siri" & "Alexa"
.,-:-,,.
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Brilliant! Someone get on it we would make news everywhere. "Tay revive on decentralized free speech platform". Outside the box ideas.
I fucking love it. $1000 each lisk.
March 27, 2016, 04:36:45 AM
I'm not sure but 101 delegates remembered me this :
and this for the italian people :
and this for the italian people :
March 27, 2016, 04:26:54 AM
That's not me
... I do't know why they have used my 'avatar'.Maybe cuz you have the most colorful avatar
March 27, 2016, 04:17:49 AM
That's not me
... I do't know why they have used my 'avatar'. March 27, 2016, 04:16:46 AM
this coin would have been so much better if there was a plan to add a pow phase with a new algo, is this still possible to do? it would help having at least some form of backup for the value
I don't think it would be possible to do, and it would be stupid as it would go against our vision of having a cooperative consensus rather than competitive
March 27, 2016, 03:47:43 AM
good forum
thanks for sharing
thanks for sharing
March 27, 2016, 03:34:41 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
I hope it lives upto its expectation.We all do
As long as people continue to bring in new people outside the core users on this thread, I think we'll be in good shape. I recommend everyone keep reaching out to the crypto community through social media. No matter how small small your reach, every action helps.
March 27, 2016, 02:53:32 AM
this coin would have been so much better if there was a plan to add a pow phase with a new algo, is this still possible to do? it would help having at least some form of backup for the value
March 27, 2016, 02:37:23 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
I hope it lives upto its expectation.We all do
lisk already has 2 more pages than ETH here in the ANN section.
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March 27, 2016, 02:25:42 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
I hope it lives upto its expectation.So the community behind the coin is better than the innovation its self
Best luck
March 27, 2016, 02:15:09 AM
Hey guys, we're looking for developers to join the Lisk Dapp Dev Team (independent from Lisk)
Currently we have Mike, DevKing, Myself and CoEvolution Developers!
Regards,
JM Erestain
a great idea is to help the community LISK, I think you need to give support, if I will be 101 delegates, I will send you 10% of the forgingCurrently we have Mike, DevKing, Myself and CoEvolution Developers!
Regards,
JM Erestain
https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=135
March 27, 2016, 02:09:36 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
I hope it lives upto its expectation.We all do
lisk already has 2 more pages than ETH here in the ANN section.
March 27, 2016, 02:08:11 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
I hope it lives upto its expectation.We all do
March 27, 2016, 02:01:38 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
I hope it lives upto its expectation. March 27, 2016, 02:01:25 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
Fantastic indeed. 
March 27, 2016, 01:43:40 AM
The Lisk thread never sleep, fantastic.
March 27, 2016, 01:39:19 AM
when it will be listed on exchange?
When you do some research...jk. april 11 is the current schedule(may be amended).
but i do recommend doing some research, because that date is literally listed on every page since the ico ended...
March 27, 2016, 01:35:50 AM
when it will be listed on exchange?
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