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Quote from: FandangledGizmo on March 17, 2016, 03:05:56 PM

Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 02:42:27 PM

Here you go. compare. First number is total during ICO, second number is current market cap in btc, and their % increase/decrease, 4th number is if you invested 1 btc and are still holding today how many btc you'd have:

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

That's not a very useful comparison for an ICO speculator. Interesting number is how much you would have made in first month of trading. If it's not significant you're better off waiting for trading to start.

I call this bullshit as some of the coins were still mined therefore market cap increased over time

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Quote from: willowfoot on March 17, 2016, 03:28:39 PM

Quote from: FandangledGizmo on March 17, 2016, 03:05:56 PM

Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 02:42:27 PM

Here you go. compare. First number is total during ICO, second number is current market cap in btc, and their % increase/decrease, 4th number is if you invested 1 btc and are still holding today how many btc you'd have:

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)
NEM: ~95BTC - 27,190 BTC Market Cap ---28521% increase (286 btc)

That's not a very useful comparison for an ICO speculator. Interesting number is how much you would have made in first month of trading. If it's not significant you're better off waiting for trading to start.

Added NEM for you.

My .03 BTC stake is now worth 6.7BTC at 300sats

so you want to say that the presale Nem was worth 1 Satoshi ?

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Current price 0.034 usd or 8110 satoshi per lisk. 5650+ btc collected and 81 hours more to go till ico ends!

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Quote from: FandangledGizmo on March 17, 2016, 03:05:56 PM

Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 02:42:27 PM

Here you go. compare. First number is total during ICO, second number is current market cap in btc, and their % increase/decrease, 4th number is if you invested 1 btc and are still holding today how many btc you'd have:

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)
NEM: ~95BTC - 27,190 BTC Market Cap ---28521% increase (286 btc)

That's not a very useful comparison for an ICO speculator. Interesting number is how much you would have made in first month of trading. If it's not significant you're better off waiting for trading to start.

Added NEM for you.

My .03 BTC stake is now worth 6.7BTC at 300sats

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Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 02:42:27 PM

Here you go. compare. First number is total during ICO, second number is current market cap in btc, and their % increase/decrease, 4th number is if you invested 1 btc and are still holding today how many btc you'd have:

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

That's not a very useful comparison for an ICO speculator. Interesting number is how much you would have made in first month of trading. If it's not significant you're better off waiting for trading to start.

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Quote from: Splatters on March 17, 2016, 02:42:40 PM

archcoin too, from 6k to 13k in a week then dumped, and pumped again 8 month later.

We don't know what will happen after lisk hit an exchange, someone will sell if pump someone will sell if dump. Someone will hold if pump, waiting a bigger pump, someone will buy lower and lower.

The smart way to play it is to sell a small portion of your coins if Lisk pumps 2-4x value (or higher). Then either rebuy if it goes cheaper, or just consider it as covering your initial investment.

If it dumps to or below ICO, just hold. You'll get into profit eventually. It's tempting to play the 'sell for a loss, but buy back at an even better rate' game, but that can quickly go horribly, horribly wrong.

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Quote from: PaidFudder on March 17, 2016, 02:32:32 PM

is there a coin which rose in value just after ico?
in my memory the price always dropped first

Price always starts too high, light x5-10. Then come sellers that are fine with x2-x3 profits. But I don't remember price go lower than IPO price if tech behind coin is solid. Sometimes shit happens and people with soft balls sell low, but if there's nothing wrong with a coin network nobody sells with loss.

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Quote from: poornamelessme on March 17, 2016, 02:39:41 PM

Quote from: PaidFudder on March 17, 2016, 02:32:32 PM

is there a coin which rose in value just after ico?
in my memory the price always dropped first

Sure, plenty rose after an ICO hit the exchange.
XBC comes to mind (it went insane, like 30x value in weeks). XCR even rose 2-3x after the ICO.

And of course some drop. There are some in-betweeners, coins that rose after the ICO was over, but didn't hit an exchange yet (so off exchange trades)... then fell back to ICO levels once on an exchange. Not sure if that counts as a real drop or not.

Basically saying, it can go anywhere: up, down or sideways.

archcoin too, from 6k to 13k in a week then dumped, and pumped again 8 month later.

We don't know what will happen after lisk hit an exchange, someone will sell if pump someone will sell if dump. Someone will hold if pump, waiting a bigger pump, someone will buy lower and lower.

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Here you go. compare. First number is total during ICO, second number is current market cap in btc, and their % increase/decrease, 4th number is if you invested 1 btc and are still holding today how many btc you'd have:

Ripple: 72,289 BTC - 676,227 BTC Market Cap - 835% increase (8.25 btc)
Ethereum: 31,531 BTC - 2,462,284 BTC Market Cap - 7709% increase (77.09 btc)
Maidsafe: 12,200 BTC - 104,696 BTC Market Cap - 758% increase (7.58 btc)
Stellar: 7,228 BTC - 27,803 BTC Market Cap - 284% increase (2.84 btc)
Bitshares: 6829 BTC - 38,981 BTC Market Cap - 470% increase (4.7 btc)
Factom: 2287 BTC - 43,194 BTC Market Cap - 1788% increase (17.88 btc)

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Quote from: PaidFudder on March 17, 2016, 02:32:32 PM

is there a coin which rose in value just after ico?
in my memory the price always dropped first

Sure, plenty rose after an ICO hit the exchange.
XBC comes to mind (it went insane, like 30x value in weeks). XCR even rose 2-3x after the ICO.

And of course some drop. There are some in-betweeners, coins that rose after the ICO was over, but didn't hit an exchange yet (so off exchange trades)... then fell back to ICO levels once on an exchange. Not sure if that counts as a real drop or not.

Basically saying, it can go anywhere: up, down or sideways.

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Quote from: PaidFudder on March 17, 2016, 02:32:32 PM

is there a coin which rose in value just after ico?
in my memory the price always dropped first

Hey bubba, have you seen the figures we've posted several times on the ICO coins and current market caps?

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is there a coin which rose in value just after ico?
in my memory the price always dropped first

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SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM LISK WILL GO TO 1 SATOSHI IN 1 WEEK!!!! STAY OUT OF THIS SHIT!

Who pays you to shout SCAM in this thread, and how many bitcoin will you get

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Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 02:03:29 PM

Quote from: tuvok007 on March 17, 2016, 01:58:35 PM

Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 12:08:08 PM

Just bought more. I'm up to 39,000+ LISK. Grin

That is like little bit less than 3 btc invested? Am I right?

nope. exactly 3 btc.

Right now I have 39434.40930390 LISK but it's being depleted by the minute LOL

And 82 hours more to go. You"ll be somewhere like 30 000 lisks on sunday when ico ends!

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Quote from: poornamelessme on March 17, 2016, 01:32:19 PM

Quote from: redcastle on March 17, 2016, 01:08:21 PM

You have nothing better to do instead of screaming scam? Tongue

Expect more of the same as soon as the coin hits the exchanges (and during).

As primarily such people want the price of the coin to crash, so they can scoop up cheap Lisk beneath ICO levels.

Of course there could be other reasons... holders of other coins who for whatever reason think this coin (or any successful ICO) would negatively impact the value of their own holdings, or those who cashed out all of their XCR and now don't want to feel bad if Lisk succeeds, or those who don't understand proportional values, and think less Lisk = less value. Of course once in a while there is just the plain troll, but I believe the majority of such people have financial gain of some sort in mind (or otherwise they truly have no life, spending time posting in a coin they have no interest in).

I don't mean this as a defense of Lisk either, as hype people can be just as bad too. But their motives are more obvious, and assume fud or hype, at this point I assume most people realize it plays little role in the value of a coin ... whales move the market, not some guy posting in annoying fonts in a forum.

Thanks for your answer...the worst is yet to come then

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Quote from: tuvok007 on March 17, 2016, 01:58:35 PM

Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 12:08:08 PM

Just bought more. I'm up to 39,000+ LISK. Grin

That is like little bit less than 3 btc invested? Am I right?

nope. exactly 3 btc.

Right now I have 39434.40930390 LISK but it's being depleted by the minute LOL

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Quote from: TomArayaSlaya on March 17, 2016, 01:37:20 PM

Will the dev put some support in the markets? With all those BTC I think it's a good way to show trust in their project and it's good for them if people will dump they will gain more coin. At ico price maybe

My initial thought when they were setting up the ICO was similar, that the devs should set up a buy wall. But now I think it's sort of pointless. With the amount of BTC taken in, it should be relatively easy to build up the value of the coin ... even if it does slip to or beneath ICO levels, I don't see it staying there very long. All of these FUD people will then mysteriously vanish from this thread as they buy up cheap coins, then turn into hype supporters as the coin rises (using other accounts usually).

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Quote from: captainvest on March 17, 2016, 12:08:08 PM

Just bought more. I'm up to 39,000+ LISK. Grin

That is like little bit less than 3 btc invested? Am I right?

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Somone know how become a partner with azure works? I mean did microsoft see an interesting project in lisk o lisk dev contacted them proposing it?
I guess Microsoft made all the researches needed to know what's lisk and what's meant to do. And I guess they've seen the cose too, right?
It's not just an add to azure, just because lisk made a nice ann and marketing.

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Quote from: poornamelessme on March 17, 2016, 01:32:19 PM

Quote from: redcastle on March 17, 2016, 01:08:21 PM

You have nothing better to do instead of screaming scam? Tongue

Expect more of the same as soon as the coin hits the exchanges (and during).

As primarily such people want the price of the coin to crash, so they can scoop up cheap Lisk beneath ICO levels.

Of course there could be other reasons... holders of other coins who for whatever reason think this coin (or any successful ICO) would negatively impact the value of their own holdings, or those who cashed out all of their XCR and now don't want to feel bad if Lisk succeeds, or those who don't understand proportional values, and think less Lisk = less value. Of course once in a while there is just the plain troll, but I believe the majority of such people have financial gain of some sort in mind (or otherwise they truly have no life, spending time posting in a coin they have no interest in).

I don't mean this as a defense of Lisk either, as hype people can be just as bad too. But their motives are more obvious, and assume fud or hype, at this point I assume most people realize it plays little role in the value of a coin ... whales move the market, not some guy posting in annoying fonts in a forum.

Will the dev put some support in the markets? With all those BTC I think it's a good way to show trust in their project and it's good for them if people will dump they will gain more coin. At ico price maybe

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