[ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 2148.

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Quote from: LiskHQ on March 08, 2016, 06:09:20 AM

Quote from: tranzactionezlive on March 07, 2016, 09:39:51 PM

Send Crypti
1 error prohibited your payment from being accepted:

Invalid transaction timestamp

This is the second time it happens, first time my crypti wallet couldn't send transactions anymore for some time, now it was working again and i get this. My wallet has nothing to do with it, obviously, since the connection to the blockchain is made through https://ico.lisk.io/

I find this method intrusive as we need to input password and also not functional, as you can see. Why can't it be done as for BTC ?

Wonder if it actually happened to more people... i will post further impressions in case this doesn't work out.

Please open a ticket on http://support.lisk.io/ if you still encounter this problem.

Quote from: Pitchblackroom on March 07, 2016, 10:34:56 PM

Good to hear all of these translations are getting done, however it still doesn't say that the Hungarian one is done. I was in Lisk chat reading about how some guy already finished it.

Yes, I have the Hungarian translation. However, it's ONLY the text. That means not in the forum BBcode format. Therefore, it takes me a bit longer. I need to find the time for that.

If you want to do it, feel free to contact me. Wink

Quote from: Zhangweihong on March 08, 2016, 03:56:21 AM

Hello dev, two send BTC to the same address, can't show the Bug fixes?

Should be no problem. If the 2nd transaction doesn't appear after a few hours, please open a ticket on http://support.lisk.io/.

Thank you very much.

Dev I want to translate to romanian.

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Hey risinhigher
Here's my response to your FUD crap

LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode
Let me know when it's done...or even started. Even if an Ethereum JavaScript compiler existed, Solidity is still an unstable language - why paste a compiler on top of it?

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk
The above argument is vaporware. JavaScript programmers can start coding Lisk dapps right now.

Single hash generated vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all
I've explained this several times. Churning out trillions of wasted hashes means lots of wasted electricity - like literally a nuclear powerplant's worth for Bitcoin - and is an ever-growing financial overhead that will ultimately kill the coin.

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above
No, it's the key reason Lisk can run on a $9 CHIP computer and Ethereum can't. Economies of scale hugely favor Lisk over BTC/ETH.

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency
It is so sad to see people that don't understand enough math to get why exponential growth is unsustainable, or why a stable system is different and better from an unstable one.

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed
The Ethereum Guide says its dapps are deployed on the mainchain ( https://gavofyork.gitbooks.io/turboethereum/content/dapps_deployment.html ). Practically, in Ethereum dapps are just specialized "contracts". There's my showdown cards in this poker hand - what's your counter-reference to prove what you are saying about Ethereum sidechains? Prove to me that each dapp in Ethereum has its own separate blockchain as they do in Lisk.

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in
So...PoS for ETH is vaporware, got it. How can you know that Eth PoS will run on microcomputers like Lisk does if ETH PoS finally shows up? What happens to all those sad little GPU miners whose income stream will be cut off?

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...
What part of "free" vs. "paying for ETH gas" is so hard to understand? Free is better. Lisk is still the exchange coin of choice within the dapp itself.

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Quote from: BlockChainr on March 08, 2016, 06:19:38 AM

Quote from: crypti on March 08, 2016, 02:54:43 AM

Quote from: MalReynolds on March 07, 2016, 04:36:02 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

btw .. The only thing I know about this project is that it is Ethereum with a twist (javascript instead of solidity).
I hope the devs do understand that that would not really be enough .... ..
Ethereum can easily add a javascript compiler into the bytecode

From a previous post a few pages back

LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk

Single hash generated vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...

It's why I asked the guys what direction they going to take the current Crypti VM in order to be able to compete. Solidity pretty much eliminated the only advantage Crypti had over Eth.

As mentioned, Crypti needs other advantages over Eth to be interesting for developers.

I noticed your username is "Crypti"... Are you the guy who started Crypti ?

Yep, it's me.

To prevent misunderstandings, i meant that there is still need more work on VM, and if do all right, it can be sucessful.

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Quote from: crypti on March 08, 2016, 02:54:43 AM

Quote from: MalReynolds on March 07, 2016, 04:36:02 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

btw .. The only thing I know about this project is that it is Ethereum with a twist (javascript instead of solidity).
I hope the devs do understand that that would not really be enough .... ..
Ethereum can easily add a javascript compiler into the bytecode

From a previous post a few pages back

LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk

Single hash generated vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...

It's why I asked the guys what direction they going to take the current Crypti VM in order to be able to compete. Solidity pretty much eliminated the only advantage Crypti had over Eth.

As mentioned, Crypti needs other advantages over Eth to be interesting for developers.

I noticed your username is "Crypti"... Are you the guy who started Crypti ?

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Quote from: tranzactionezlive on March 07, 2016, 09:39:51 PM

Send Crypti
1 error prohibited your payment from being accepted:

Invalid transaction timestamp

This is the second time it happens, first time my crypti wallet couldn't send transactions anymore for some time, now it was working again and i get this. My wallet has nothing to do with it, obviously, since the connection to the blockchain is made through https://ico.lisk.io/

I find this method intrusive as we need to input password and also not functional, as you can see. Why can't it be done as for BTC ?

Wonder if it actually happened to more people... i will post further impressions in case this doesn't work out.

Please open a ticket on http://support.lisk.io/ if you still encounter this problem.

Quote from: Pitchblackroom on March 07, 2016, 10:34:56 PM

Good to hear all of these translations are getting done, however it still doesn't say that the Hungarian one is done. I was in Lisk chat reading about how some guy already finished it.

Yes, I have the Hungarian translation. However, it's ONLY the text. That means not in the forum BBcode format. Therefore, it takes me a bit longer. I need to find the time for that.

If you want to do it, feel free to contact me. Wink

Quote from: Zhangweihong on March 08, 2016, 03:56:21 AM

Hello dev, two send BTC to the same address, can't show the Bug fixes?

Should be no problem. If the 2nd transaction doesn't appear after a few hours, please open a ticket on http://support.lisk.io/.

Thank you very much.

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Quote from: crypti on March 08, 2016, 02:54:43 AM

It's why I asked the guys what direction they going to take the current Crypti VM in order to be able to compete. Solidity pretty much eliminated the only advantage Crypti had over Eth.

As mentioned, Crypti needs other advantages over Eth to be interesting for developers.

Regarding the current VM, there are more pressing issues that need to be addressed before we turn our attention here.

Having said that, I've already fixed a critical bug affecting the Lisk VM, which was present in the Crypti source code, therefore bug fixes and further stabilisation will be our first top priority.

Later on we will make further improvements, but right now "stablisation" is our main objective.

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Quote from: Zhangweihong on March 08, 2016, 03:56:21 AM

Hello dev, two send BTC to the same address, can't show the Bug fixes?

Here you go: https://lisk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/207063439-I-sent-two-transactions-to-the-same-address-and-only-one-shows-up-

It should automatically detect them.

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Hello dev, two send BTC to the same address, can't show the Bug fixes?

crypti

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Boris, Crypti Lead Developer, Lisk Advisor

Quote from: MalReynolds on March 07, 2016, 04:36:02 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

btw .. The only thing I know about this project is that it is Ethereum with a twist (javascript instead of solidity).
I hope the devs do understand that that would not really be enough .... ..
Ethereum can easily add a javascript compiler into the bytecode

From a previous post a few pages back

LISK HOLDS THE FOLLOWING ADVANTAGES OVER ETHERIUM:

Javascript language simplicity vs Solidity language complexity
Like I said ... easy to write a Javascript compiler to Ethereum bytecode

100,000+ JavaScript programmers vs. few Solidity programmers
The above argument eliminates this so called advantage of lisk

Single hash generated vs. trillions of valid but discarded hashes generated to secure blockchain in one blocktime
Makes no sense at all

Cooperative, efficient blockchain generation vs. competitive, wasteful blockchain generation
looks like the same as above

Stable roundtable clockwork forging vs. unsustainable, exponentially growing free-for-all mining
Forging is no different than mining ... just different ways to make the currency

Dapps on individual sidechains vs. dapps on bloated mainchain
Ethereum dapps are also sidechains .. lol .. you seem to be uninformed

Min of 2-4 to max of 101 cheap $35 Pi2 / $9 CHIP microcomputers needed for each sidechain backbone vs. large, unlimited numbers of expensive GPU systems needed for mainchain backbone
The GPU rings will not be used once POS for eth sets in

Sidechain dapps permanently free vs. mainchain perpetual "gas" payments required
Ah ... What can possibly be the use of the beloved LISK then ...

It's why I asked the guys what direction they going to take the current Crypti VM in order to be able to compete. Solidity pretty much eliminated the only advantage Crypti had over Eth.

As mentioned, Crypti needs other advantages over Eth to be interesting for developers.

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Quote from: chesthing on March 07, 2016, 09:46:37 PM

Quote from: Piston Honda on March 07, 2016, 09:36:48 PM

read over most
btc into this way to quick
way to many others from the other past coins who WILL dump at launch
won't buy ico (overpriced now for sure), buy at dumpy time post launch (maybe).
end of story.

Pretty much. These 2 kids made a hell of a lot of money flying on the coattails of ETH pump, nice timing! as far as buying this ico, fuuuuck that.

Iota troll in Lisk thread

Welcome

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Quote from: ?? on ??

~ snip ~

But you've added the signature, because you like to get free coins. Grin

Next year or if you're able to it, you should make your OWN PROJECT with your OWN TERMS.

Until then - stay cool.

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Quote from: tranzactionezlive on March 07, 2016, 09:39:51 PM

Send Crypti
1 error prohibited your payment from being accepted:

Invalid transaction timestamp

This is the second time it happens, first time my crypti wallet couldn't send transactions anymore for some time, now it was working again and i get this. My wallet has nothing to do with it, obviously, since the connection to the blockchain is made through https://ico.lisk.io/

I find this method intrusive as we need to input password and also not functional, as you can see. Why can't it be done as for BTC ?

Wonder if it actually happened to more people... i will post further impressions in case this doesn't work out.

If things have not worked out yet you can open support ticket here: https://lisk.zendesk.com/hc/en-us

Or you could join the Lisk chat, the devs would be glad to help: https://lisk.chat/

Quote from: 10000usdperbtc on March 07, 2016, 10:22:33 PM

I have been in the signature line marking for this project, I give you too much help, I'll give you come on, we will be a great success. Cheers!!

Cheers!!

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:)

Quote from: kidyubyub on March 07, 2016, 11:13:13 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: MalReynolds on March 07, 2016, 09:30:53 PM

Quote from: Alexthesalamander on March 07, 2016, 08:34:57 PM

Please stop this ICO now!! Tongue

My lisk is like 1/4 of what it was 2 weeks ago!

The amount you will receive has gone down to 1/4, but it's four times more valuable. The value of what you have been given for your original donation has stayed exactly the same.

And the value of the 4 Million Lisk for each Dev, has gone waaaaaay up. Shocked

Investors are are continuing to get screwed in this ICO.

Then why are you still here trololoing this thread?

People love wasting their time.
In other news, .1 BTC on this lets go!
2damoon all that other dumb altcoin shit

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: MalReynolds on March 07, 2016, 09:30:53 PM

Quote from: Alexthesalamander on March 07, 2016, 08:34:57 PM

Please stop this ICO now!! Tongue

My lisk is like 1/4 of what it was 2 weeks ago!

The amount you will receive has gone down to 1/4, but it's four times more valuable. The value of what you have been given for your original donation has stayed exactly the same.

And the value of the 4 Million Lisk for each Dev, has gone waaaaaay up. Shocked

Investors are are continuing to get screwed in this ICO.

Then why are you still here trololoing this thread?

kidyubyub

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http://taas.fund

Quote from: chesthing on March 07, 2016, 09:46:37 PM

Quote from: Piston Honda on March 07, 2016, 09:36:48 PM

read over most
btc into this way to quick
way to many others from the other past coins who WILL dump at launch
won't buy ico (overpriced now for sure), buy at dumpy time post launch (maybe).
end of story.

Pretty much. These 2 kids made a hell of a lot of money flying on the coattails of ETH pump, nice timing! as far as buying this ico, fuuuuck that.

Don't go away mad, just go away.

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Quote from: LiskHQ on January 31, 2016, 03:34:20 AM

Quote from: Rashid Ahmed on January 30, 2016, 06:42:03 PM

Quote from: karmacoma24 on January 30, 2016, 06:32:53 PM

Quote from: Rashid Ahmed on January 30, 2016, 06:21:30 PM

Russian translation and thread its ready https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annlisk-lisk-ico-sidechain-1346837

Thank you very much! We will allocate you a bounty for sure

Much appreciated.

Waiting. And now translation fixed. And you please fix Crypti to Lisk in OP

Quote

Crypti in other languages

• Chinese (Bounty available! Tell us if you want to translate our OP!)
• German (Bounty available! Tell us if you want to translate our OP!)
• French (Bounty available! Tell us if you want to translate our OP!)
• Italian (Bounty available! Tell us if you want to translate our OP!)
• Russian (Bounty available! Tell us if you want to translate our OP!)
• Spanish (Bounty available! Tell us if you want to translate our OP!)

Fixed this, thank you. We also inserted you into our bounty list. Thank you very much.

Good to hear all of these translations are getting done, however it still doesn't say that the Hungarian one is done. I was in Lisk chat reading about how some guy already finished it.

10000usdperbtc

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I have been in the signature line marking for this project, I give you too much help, I'll give you come on, we will be a great success. Cheers!!

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Quote from: Piston Honda on March 07, 2016, 09:36:48 PM

read over most
btc into this way to quick
way to many others from the other past coins who WILL dump at launch
won't buy ico (overpriced now for sure), buy at dumpy time post launch (maybe).
end of story.

Pretty much. These 2 kids made a hell of a lot of money flying on the coattails of ETH pump, nice timing! as far as buying this ico, fuuuuck that.

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I think the lisk launch timing will be good. Many things are going on in the next few months that may have a super positive effect on the lisk price. Cross your fingers and pray for all the stars to align but I got a good feeling about lisks future if the devs can come up with a decent system that people can start working on.

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Send Crypti
1 error prohibited your payment from being accepted:

Invalid transaction timestamp

This is the second time it happens, first time my crypti wallet couldn't send transactions anymore for some time, now it was working again and i get this. My wallet has nothing to do with it, obviously, since the connection to the blockchain is made through https://ico.lisk.io/

I find this method intrusive as we need to input password and also not functional, as you can see. Why can't it be done as for BTC ?

Wonder if it actually happened to more people... i will post further impressions in case this doesn't work out.

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