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Is there support available for the ICO site?

what if this will be something like the old good scam made by bitpay or something like that, do you remember?

The day LISK are available I will accept them for everything I sell.

with xcr it's like at around 3200 BTC

Exactly who is going to sell there Lisk lower then the Ico price, that would be very dumb.
I'm not here for the short term gains i'm in it for the long run!

It is even smarter to buy it no since you still get 5% extra coins better investment isn't there at the moment!

with all those btc made already some whale is obviously in

I meant once they be available.

Lisk is getting attention from big whales so many already in there because this project is looking promising and it seems will make rock and to the moon after it launched.

Im my crypto experience I've seen a lot of people sell their coin at a lower price than the ico. Dumbs are everywhere. We just need to be there to catch their dumps.
But of course if the price rise immediately, nobody will sell low.

If you will have LISK till 20th of March feel free to pay with LISK.

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Early in the ICO I too thought there would be an initial dump, due to XCR holders cashing out. Now... not so sure. As you say, with that amount of BTC taken in, there is a lot of future potential. I do expect a dump (it happens with all ICOS)... just not sure it'll go below ICO prices.

I know some may look as ETH as a competitor, but it may be the reason the coin brought in so much, and also why there may not be as much dumping as one would think... I expect a number of people look at how ETH has done, and wonder if they just hold for a year, what the price may be.

Try to accept Lisk as well))

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Yes, I agree. Also if we see number of BTC invested and what will be invested, it's easy to see that serious investors are in Lisk ico.

Those people are not noobish kids buying something and selling 5min later to earn 0.01 btc and be happy, but people mostly in longterm run.

There're many sharks and whales into Lisk. Really big fishes are not only buying ico but creating healthy market after launch:

-walls support,
-buying more coins (many are spliting investition into ico and rest when market is launched),
-creating buy pressure at accteptable floor,
-PR action incl. articles, trollbox/twitter/fb buzz,

etc. etc.

Ofc if someone want to sell early, it's a free market and he can do it.

But trust me, rebuying much higher coins that you had in ico at cheap level is not nice feeling.

I don't think that someone will sell their LISKs lower then ICO price.
More BTC gathered from ICO - more potention for development and marceting.

Yep.  If you don't like what you read, then don't donate a single satoshi and just move right on to the next Bitcointalk thread.


Oh, you're still here!

Stop spreading lies.  The Lisk ICO has received donations of over a million US dollars targeted to hire future staff and further develop this coin, and you know this.  The LISK ICO is only half over and may very well raise another million dollars to hire even more tech staff.  These aren't two guys saying they personally are the coin tech development staff; these are two guys LESS THAN 40 DAYS INTO THE PROCESS of raising the money to HIRE a coin tech development staff.  You know this too.  

The funds now exist to hire a GREAT tech staff.  One that is even (dare I say it) gonna be on par with the Ethereum tech staff (at least, the part that hasn't been laid off).

The whole point of the fixed 8% for Max and Olivier was to isolate their deserved reward for starting Lisk from this growing $1M+ CASH tech-dev fund.  By having a fixed 8% stake that could ultimately balloon into much more money than the cash development fund if Lisk is well received on the market, Max and Olivier are motiviated to make that ballooning growth actually happen.  The big reward for them is NOT to dip into the growing $1M CASH tech-dev fund; their big reward is to make the value of their fixed 8% share explode through solid accomplishments.  I want them to have that motivation so they make the value of MY Lisk explode.  

Unmotivated people don't accomplish crap.  If you think I'm wrong, then quit spreading lies about the Lisk founders, go start your own coin, set your own founder reward share at 0%, and come back here to tell us all how that went for you.

The main difference is that Lisk uses a cooperative, highly efficient system to add blocks to its blockchain, while Ethereum (like Bitcoin) uses a competitive, highly-wasteful system.  

Lisk calls their process "forging" (in the "blacksmith" sense of the word) and uses a continuous voting process to select the 101 people - and only 101 - with the best credentials to run network nodes.   These people cooperate and take turns adding blocks to the blockchain, one ever ten seconds.  Any particular person's turn to add a block comes every 17 minutes, and they are paid a flat fee of 5 Lisk at that time.  Only one hash is made to secure the block.  This means very cheap computers can be used like a $35 Raspberry Pi 2 or $9 CHIP to run a Lisk node, although a very low-latency internet connection is required because of the clockwork-like timing of the Lisk system.

Ethereum (and Bitcoin) have competitive mining.  Anybody can try to become a miner and spend lots of money on expensive, fast equipment that can generate cryptographic hashes.  Instead of voting, Bitcoin / Ethereum adjusts a "difficulty factor" that sets how many leading zeros the hash must have to "win" the right to forge a block and be rewarded with coins.    Miners then randomly generate literally thousands of millions of billions of hashes, ANY ONE OF WHICH COULD CRYPTOGRAPHICALLY SIGN THE NEXT BLOCK ON THE BLOCKCHAIN, and throw them away if the number of zeros in the beginning of the file does not make them a "winner".  The electricity wasted by this process is enormous and hidden from the public.  The stupid ecological crime called "mining" exists not to "secure the Ethereum /Bitcoin blockchain", but instead only to enrich miners in a get-rich-quick scheme.  This greed-based competition drives hash rates into unsustainable exponential levels that will eventually cause both Bitcoin and Ethereum to fail.  Bitcoin is already there; see:

https://blockchain.info/charts/hash-rate?timespan=all&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address=

The simplicity, trivial cost, and microscopic environmental footprint of Lisk forging will replace  the unsustainable growth and waste of Ethereum / Bitcoin mining in the future.  Lisk IS the future.


A technically and environmentally sustainable coin that is not going to self-destruct in the future like Bitcoin is now and Ethereum eventually and inevitably will.  A coin that will appreciate in value in the future because of its technical sustainability.  A coin whose primary core focus is only on sidechain / dapp development, instead of bolting these functions as an afterthought onto get-rich-quick schemes like "mining" and "gas" as Ethereum and Bitcoin do.

I don't really understand your intentions here.

All the facts and TERMS were transparent and clear long before the ICO.
If that's your honest opinion, no one compels you to attend.

But I wonder why you have added the Lisk Signatur?