I'm in Lisk since the ICO and I'm disappointed about the whole "delegates & voting" mechanism.
Don't expect me to vote for anyone, it's a completely corrupted system.
Well, I voted once for someone who did a lot for the Lisk community but he never stood a chance.
I'm also in Waves, where I can just run a node if I hold at least 10k of Waves or lease a node (without a vote).
Why not a simple solution like Waves implemented?
I like boths project though.
Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 299. (Read 3074324 times)
April 26, 2017, 04:36:57 PM
April 26, 2017, 04:30:02 PM
The Lisk Elite Delegates have formed a nice PONZI SCHEME. Lets see how long it holds up.
Never heard they're taking money & promising hundreds %% in return
are you April 26, 2017, 04:23:33 PM
1.nearly all of these guys talking about the problem of DPOS and group have never been a delegate and will never be a deletgate ..you guys never know what is the biggest problem to be a delegate. and you have no idea about what is the real problem before Elite comes out.
so let me tell you something you never know.
you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.
and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???
what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...
Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....
2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.
so let me tell you something you never know.
you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.
and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???
what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...
Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....
2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.
People who know how to read the blockchain can see your claim that 30 ARK members dumping Lisk is false. Dumping didn't start until Elite came along and took over the network and started pushing out key supporters of Lisk.
-tb-
The Lisk Elite Delegates have formed a nice PONZI SCHEME. Lets see how long it holds up.
I also challenge you to post the names of any Elite delegate members that have any technical contributions to the Lisk project.
The highest technical achievement you have produced is most likely making a meme .gif
April 26, 2017, 03:25:39 PM
Thank you all for voting for my pool!
At the moment, the reward is 80%, I'll be happy with the new voices, there's only a few left, and the pool will go to top 101. You can also read our proposal at the Liska https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1245 Forum.
Vote for my pool Olejegcord
At the moment, the reward is 80%, I'll be happy with the new voices, there's only a few left, and the pool will go to top 101. You can also read our proposal at the Liska https://forum.lisk.io/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=1245 Forum.
Vote for my pool Olejegcord
April 26, 2017, 03:16:50 PM
Lisk began waking up
I'm afraid it's only traders who is waking up
Now it's Lisk turn to be pumped a little bit.I would say that Lisk wakes up when I saw the 1st dapp in my wallet. As far as I remember even Crypti had something to show.
April 26, 2017, 02:52:55 PM
1.nearly all of these guys talking about the problem of DPOS and group have never been a delegate and will never be a deletgate ..you guys never know what is the biggest problem to be a delegate. and you have no idea about what is the real problem before Elite comes out.
so let me tell you something you never know.
you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.
and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???
what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...
Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....
2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.
so let me tell you something you never know.
you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.
and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???
what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...
Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....
2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.
People who know how to read the blockchain can see your claim that 30 ARK members dumping Lisk is false. Dumping didn't start until Elite came along and took over the network and started pushing out key supporters of Lisk.
-tb-
April 26, 2017, 02:39:28 PM
liskpool_com_03
is a good pool. lets spead the word. vote for it get another pool in top101 vote for liskpool_com_3
is a good pool. lets spead the word. vote for it get another pool in top101 vote for liskpool_com_3
I'd like to see more different people running pools not one entity controling majority of pools in 101.
April 26, 2017, 02:28:41 PM
I have never invested in Lisk, but I have to say, there's a lot of content here on this thread. Lisk sure does have a great and dedicated BitCoinTalk community.
April 26, 2017, 02:04:04 PM
Lisk began waking up
What's amazing is LISK is going up while BTC is going up! April 26, 2017, 02:00:46 PM
Lisk began waking up
April 26, 2017, 01:30:31 PM
its verry easy to understand why so much ppl voted for elite group. elite group gives something back 25% its not much but better then nothing. deligates need to share more with the voters to change the top101. or stsy left behind.
Bullshit, check who get huge reward's from Elite pool.. Or better I will say you - Elite members
April 26, 2017, 11:46:34 AM
LSK deposit at PoloniEx is broken, again...
Update: they fixed it
April 26, 2017, 11:04:51 AM
liskpool_com_03
is a good pool. lets spead the word. vote for it get another pool in top101 vote for liskpool_com_3
is a good pool. lets spead the word. vote for it get another pool in top101 vote for liskpool_com_3
April 26, 2017, 10:39:55 AM
what percentage? who defines the percentage? what if someone doesn't want to pay - are you going to ban him? if payouts were automatic it would basically mean lower block reward, so wouldn't it be easier to make it lower without all this blah blah?
Well if you want to get into top 101 you would obviously need to offer more pere percentage. With current system you can offer what ever you want and you still won't get into top 101 without spamming the shit out of all forums and chats. This is why dashboard from Lisk core team would be cool because you could see the list of delegates with most percentage or with most stars on their project rated by Lisk holders.
Percentage is defined by the delegate ofc.
what are cool projects? who defines what is cool?
Market, every token holder.
what do you mean with systematically? once per week? once a month? what if someone can't pay because of something?
Yeah, week, day, month it's all ok if it's written down and locked by the contract. You must pay, you have a contract so certain amount of your forged Lisk would be locked so that you can pay the shares to the voters who support you.
-we would be able to keep track of everything easily -> you mean like in North Korea?
Not really, more like in some transparent society where government gives you the permission to see everything they are working on and the funds they spend on it.
If transparent way is North Korea for you then I cannot imagine how you see the current messy way.
April 26, 2017, 10:17:29 AM
agree, we should have more pools in 101 to rebalance all delegates, at leat 50%
so lets vote for pools above 101...
Regards
so lets vote for pools above 101...
Regards
Been trying to get some votes, but people doesn't seem to be interested to vote for pools anymore.
With such high approval rating for forging delegates, I can understand I guess. But I won't be giving up.
yin - Will pay out 70% all forged block rewards to it's voters.
https://explorer.lisk.io/address/16919148482027362562L
yang - Will pay out 70% all forged block rewards to it's voters.
https://explorer.lisk.io/address/15034777767958942424L
But as yin should never be without yang, if you maintain balance in the universe and vote for both they
will pay out of 85% of all rewards forged!
I know that most new pools don't get many votes, as people don't think it matters to vote until they are ready to enter 101, but that is not true!
Every vote matters!
Vote Now for Yin and Yang!
April 26, 2017, 10:06:39 AM
its verry easy to understand why so much ppl voted for elite group. elite group gives something back 25% its not much but better then nothing. deligates need to share more with the voters to change the top101. or stsy left behind.
sure there are some delegates that doing alot for lisk but they also should share profit else they will be out the top101 verry soon.
its also verry smart to vote for some more pools that sharing 80% or more. if we get 2/5 more pools in the top101 we will earn way more lisk.
so if you havent voted for pools that are higher then 101 please make some time to vote for them. liskpool 02 or something like that.
community need to work together to get more pools in the top101.
and about the price rise. its a healty staidy rise. better not sell this low. its verry early to sell. we are just starting.. 50/60k in next comming days would be nice. but i will also smile and not sell any lisk. to much good things wilm come in the future.
sure there are some delegates that doing alot for lisk but they also should share profit else they will be out the top101 verry soon.
its also verry smart to vote for some more pools that sharing 80% or more. if we get 2/5 more pools in the top101 we will earn way more lisk.
so if you havent voted for pools that are higher then 101 please make some time to vote for them. liskpool 02 or something like that.
community need to work together to get more pools in the top101.
and about the price rise. its a healty staidy rise. better not sell this low. its verry early to sell. we are just starting.. 50/60k in next comming days would be nice. but i will also smile and not sell any lisk. to much good things wilm come in the future.
agree, we should have more pools in 101 to rebalance all delegates, at leat 50%
so lets vote for pools above 101...
Regards
April 26, 2017, 09:41:39 AM
its verry easy to understand why so much ppl voted for elite group. elite group gives something back 25% its not much but better then nothing. deligates need to share more with the voters to change the top101. or stsy left behind.
sure there are some delegates that doing alot for lisk but they also should share profit else they will be out the top101 verry soon.
its also verry smart to vote for some more pools that sharing 80% or more. if we get 2/5 more pools in the top101 we will earn way more lisk.
so if you havent voted for pools that are higher then 101 please make some time to vote for them. liskpool 02 or something like that.
community need to work together to get more pools in the top101.
and about the price rise. its a healty staidy rise. better not sell this low. its verry early to sell. we are just starting.. 50/60k in next comming days would be nice. but i will also smile and not sell any lisk. to much good things wilm come in the future.
sure there are some delegates that doing alot for lisk but they also should share profit else they will be out the top101 verry soon.
its also verry smart to vote for some more pools that sharing 80% or more. if we get 2/5 more pools in the top101 we will earn way more lisk.
so if you havent voted for pools that are higher then 101 please make some time to vote for them. liskpool 02 or something like that.
community need to work together to get more pools in the top101.
and about the price rise. its a healty staidy rise. better not sell this low. its verry early to sell. we are just starting.. 50/60k in next comming days would be nice. but i will also smile and not sell any lisk. to much good things wilm come in the future.
April 26, 2017, 08:12:43 AM
To know what Lisk nano is you must know about Lisk... I am talking first time people who know nothing about Lisk, for those the website must be working at all times at its best. So I disagree that this will solve the issue...
It will eliminate with Lisk nano 1.0.0 . With new nano, you can create second passphrase, can register delegate, can vote more easily.
Follow development :https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-nano/projects/4
This:
Unusable official website as it is constantly under DDOS attack.The website is the face of your coin to the open world and I would like to see proper measures put in place to mitigate these type of attacks and enhance user experience.
I see this as a huge problem because it gives the whole project a bad rep because any new people usually go to the official website first and start the Lisk journey with a bad experience.
Unusable official website as it is constantly under DDOS attack.The website is the face of your coin to the open world and I would like to see proper measures put in place to mitigate these type of attacks and enhance user experience.
I see this as a huge problem because it gives the whole project a bad rep because any new people usually go to the official website first and start the Lisk journey with a bad experience.
It will eliminate with Lisk nano 1.0.0 . With new nano, you can create second passphrase, can register delegate, can vote more easily.
Follow development :https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-nano/projects/4
Sry, misunderstanding. I think article meant login.lisk.io. But website is working and less downtime ever I think. No one told lisk.io is down these days.
April 26, 2017, 07:48:36 AM
LSK is pumping
Can we hit 50k today?
Can we hit 50k today?
Today we unlikely to 50k. Very similar to that in the next 2 days will be at 60k price. I still see so price. And in general it is better not to sell. It will be a long time to grow and develop. I look at it and enjoy it.
April 26, 2017, 07:38:55 AM
LSK is pumping
Can we hit 50k today?
Can we hit 50k today?
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