Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 299. (Read 3074131 times)

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1.nearly all of these guys talking about the problem of DPOS and group have never been a delegate and will never be a deletgate ..you guys never know what is the biggest problem to be a delegate. and you have no idea about what is the real problem before Elite comes out.

so let me tell you something you never know.

you are a developer, you want to be a delegate...so...what can you do to be a delegate? you have to be show up in lisk.chat everyday ...and call for votes....and the most important things is ..you would never get enough vote weight unless you swap votes with the others....so..you have to swap votes every day and keep your position save.....and we know that you have a full time job and you need to pay some time of swaping votes...and pay some time for developing project for Lisk.....so....you know what is the problem? it's wasting time to swap votes but you have to ...because you will drop out of 101 if you dont do that....you cant expect these "community voters" to support you...it's far from enough...just because most of the community voters are too lazy to vote for delegate.and most of them just want to make profit from polo.

and most of these community voters never know that there have over 30 ARK foundation team member was forging on Lisk main...the ark foundation member use the ico wallet of ARK to vote for themself with 4.7M lisk....they forging on Lisk and dump Lisk to make profit..and feed ark project..that is the main reason why the price of Lisk drop to 7700 sat two month ago....these sucker just suck the blood from Lisk investor to feed their project....does anyone know these story???

what is the forging stuation now? Elite beated ARK ,and kicked most of Ark foundation member out of 101 now...and Elite member start to vote for these delegate who have real project and do contribution to Lisk network and bring them back into 101...and push these delegate who do nothing to Lisk and just forging and dumping...

Elite is a Centralized group. that is right...but Decentralization is not the only way to run Lisk ecosystem. why cant we have a Centralized organization On the basis of Decentralize network....


2.increase the number of delegate is just the most Stupid way to fix "these delegate problem", and i dont see any problem for now...and what i can see is some guys who never know about how to be delegate and what real DPOS is, and just keep talking about they found a "problem" on DPOS...i dont think these "smart guys" are smarter then the creater of DPOS.

liskpool_com_03

is a good pool. lets spead the word. vote for it get another pool in top101   vote for liskpool_com_3

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its verry easy to understand why so much ppl voted for elite group. elite group gives something back 25% its not much but better then nothing. deligates need to share more with the voters to change the top101. or stsy left behind.

LSK deposit at PoloniEx is broken, again...

what percentage? who defines the percentage? what if someone doesn't want to pay - are you going to ban him? if payouts were automatic it would basically mean lower block reward, so wouldn't it be easier to make it lower without all this blah blah?

what are cool projects? who defines what is cool?

what do you mean with systematically? once per week? once a month? what if someone can't pay because of something?

-we would be able to keep track of everything easily -> you mean like in North Korea?

agree, we should have more pools in 101 to rebalance all delegates, at leat 50%
so lets vote for pools above 101...

Regards

its verry easy to understand why so much ppl voted for elite group. elite group gives something back 25% its not much but better then nothing. deligates need to share more with the voters to change the top101. or stsy left behind.

sure there are some delegates that doing alot for lisk but they also should share profit else they will be out the top101 verry soon.

its also verry smart to vote for some more pools that sharing 80% or more. if we get 2/5 more pools in the top101 we will earn way more lisk.

so if you havent voted for pools that are higher then 101 please make some time to vote for them. liskpool 02 or something like that.
community need to work together to get more pools in the top101.


and about the price rise. its a healty staidy rise. better not sell this low. its verry early to sell. we are just starting..  50/60k in next comming days would be nice. but i will also smile and not sell any lisk. to much good things wilm come in the future.

To know what Lisk nano is you must know about Lisk... I am talking first time people who know nothing about Lisk, for those the website must be working at all times at its best. So I disagree that this will solve the issue...

LSK is pumping  
Can we hit 50k today?

It will eliminate with Lisk nano 1.0.0 . With new nano, you can create second passphrase, can register delegate, can vote more easily.

Follow development :https://github.com/LiskHQ/lisk-nano/projects/4

If we make the network more decentralized, increasing the number of delegates 3 times this will be normal solution. I do not mean exactly three times, it may be different number.

I think DPOS is a great system, we just need to find a way to get rid of mafia teams like Team elite who give only a little piece of stake back to the community. The thing is they give something back and people will rather get few coins from them than vote for someone with cool project which takes time to deliver and it might never deliver at all.
So for the beginning I hope we can replace Team Elite with POOLS which will give us a much better return than Team Elite which promises nothing really. You can get into 101 though Team Elite just because you have a lot of coins and only thing you "owe" to the community is that little percentage that all team elite members need to give to the pool.

So Team Elite members don't really have the motivation to build something more for the Lisk with those funds because they are easily keeping their delegate spots just by being in the mafia network who back each other with a lot of votes. So currently Team Elite is only an inflation for the Lisk project with few individuals that actually use Lisk for something else except building a fortune on it. This is our current problem that needs to be solved.

SOLUTION

All other delegates should offer more percentage than Team Elite back to the voters and cool projects but they should do it systematically like Team Elite so that the voters are sure to get their Lisk without any mambo jumbo, and to get this I propose that Lisk team builds a delegate dashboard with timeframes, numbers and projects proposals.
With the dashboard a delegate would setup the % of shares that he is returning to the voters and the timeframe in which percentage will be LOCKED. Payouts to the voters would be automatic. Also it would be easy and transparent to see project proposals and updates and history. This way we would be able to keep track of everything easily rather then using a forum which is a mess when it comes to tracking.
With this system you can easily knock out someone from voting if you see he's not doing what he initially proposed and took money for.

It's very difficult to compare Lisk Delegates (DPOS) to that of BTC mining (POW). While I can understand the analogy, choosing a Delegates is a democratically process and thus they are heavily involved within the community. A delegate position comes with far more responsibility than many people believe. DPOS and POW are nothing alike, and they should not be compared; there's way too much social behavior involved within DPOS that does not matter for POW.