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Topic: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers - page 751. (Read 3074310 times)

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Not a scam. I will post a general blog post tomorrow. The idea is being more egalitarian, supporting any legit project which utilizes/uses/helps Lisk. That means later also blockchain apps, we experienced how hard finding escrow partners is. I'm only escrowing the LSK, nothing else. One of the founders (they are from Cashila) is a good friend of mine. He supports Lisk by accepting it. He is a big Lisk supporter/believer, as it's an index it has advantages.

Driving home currently, worked for 13h, please wait until tomorrow. Smiley

Edit: It will probably cost me 2-3 hours of my time in total. However, this will be the first ICO which accepts LSK. Lisk will be named in every press release, we are forever coupled to their name, and so on. It's worth it for Lisk and it will be the first step to offer this service to our legit community members.
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tweet him on twitter, he might be using phone though.
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Before starting to discuss this, you should wait for Max' answer. He's offline for today.

Yes, I think guys Max will answer to this. But I think this is a scam.
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Before starting to discuss this, you should wait for Max' answer. He's offline for today.
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Scam alert:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-iconomi-fund-management-platform-1587736

They use Max' name as escrow partner. I doubt he is actually involved there.

If not, why would he be involved?

The ICO doesn't start for 8 days so I can't see them mentioning his name falsely this far in advance. I would be curious to know why he is doing that though. MAX?

Yeah, the long span between announcement and ICO start got me, too. But still, I am a little taken aback. One way or another, I don't think it is good to be involved in any project that is not linked to Lisk at this point, even if it is only as an escrow partner. Focus is key.

I agree totally. We as investors don't need the CEO of our project involved in the unknown. Either way it is bad, I read there main accounts don't have much history which is why they are using the newly created. Would suggest Max doesn't know them to well either. I would urge Max to pull out of that role he accepted.
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Scam alert:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-iconomi-fund-management-platform-1587736

They use Max' name as escrow partner. I doubt he is actually involved there.

If not, why would he be involved?

The ICO doesn't start for 8 days so I can't see them mentioning his name falsely this far in advance. I would be curious to know why he is doing that though. MAX?

Yeah, the long span between announcement and ICO start got me, too. But still, I am a little taken aback. One way or another, I don't think it is good to be involved in any project that is not linked to Lisk at this point, even if it is only as an escrow partner. Focus is key.
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Scam alert:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-iconomi-fund-management-platform-1587736

They use Max' name as escrow partner. I doubt he is actually involved there.

If not, why would he be involved?

The ICO doesn't start for 8 days so I can't see them mentioning his name falsely this far in advance. I would be curious to know why he is doing that though. MAX?
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Running smooth here on win10.
Just missing the paste function for the phassphrase

Ctrl
+ c / Ctrl + v should work.

Thanks mate... works Wink
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Running smooth here on win10.
Sust missing the paste function for the phassphrase

Ctrl
+ c / Ctrl + v should work.
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Running smooth here on win10.
Just missing the paste function for the phassphrase
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Announcing Lisk Nano



We believe our users should be able to access their Lisk accounts anywhere, anytime, and from any device in the world. This kind of untethered accessibility is an important factor for the Lisk team but until now there were some obstacles in that regard. Installing the Lisk client on Windows and macOS computers is still quite the complicated task and we still need conduct feasibility research in order to provide native one-click clients.

Today we are introducing Lisk Nano, a light-weight, simple, and fully responsive client which allows users to access the very basic Lisk features.


Read the announcement

thanks for this. do i need to download the hole blockchain?

Just a light wallet, maybe we don't need it, i think they use light blockchain

No blockchain download. Smiley

i was able to login to one of my accounts on OSX. are the connections encrypted? i saw that it connects on TCP-Port 8000. but i don't know what this mean according security.
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.

I won't get paid for running testnet, right? from what I see I'll be stuck there forever:

I am looking at the delegate monitor - there is just no way I can get in: already 632 delegates on standby! Almost all current delegates are the same guy (or seems like it): some guy called genesis - seems this one guy whale takes up everything.

my first impression of DPOS is not positive. No room for the little gal I am.


It is actually possible (although difficult) for a delegate to gather 14M votes right now, and take a spot of one of the genesis delegates.

This would be easier if people withdraw their Lisk from poloniex and vote.

Withdrawing your Lisk to a local wallet and voting, is not only good for decentralization of the network, but also much safer for your funds.

Yeah, especially since nearly 38% of all Lisk is on Poloniex atm. That's fucking dangerous to the health of the coin as a whole…

Btw, can someone clear somethign up for me? I've read a bit about delegates and you mostly read about renting a VPS and using that. But doesn't that mean that you rent the hardware of some serverfarm? Isn't that pretty… well, centralized? Or am I missing something? Are there people out there who run delegates on their own hardware?
On a different note, I have a RaspPi 2 laying around. Any chance that this thing can be used as a delegate (maybe for sidechains?)?


The amount of Lisk 1 delegate can forge in 1 month depends only on the server that he has, meaning specs and uptime?

More or less. As a delegate, you get 5 LSK(at least that's the last number I remember) every 17 minutes, plus transaction/other fees. So it's pretty much fixed. Specs don't really play a role(as long as the server is capable of fulfilling the task), uptime obviously does.

Edit: Amount of Lisk corrected

Cool idea to run a delegate on a raspberry pi.  If the internet connection in your home/office is stable, then running delegates on your own hardware would help decentralize the network away from data centers.


More or less. As a delegate, you get 15 LSK(at least that's the last number I remember) every 17 minutes, plus transaction/other fees. So it's pretty much fixed. Specs don't really play a role(as long as the server is capable of fulfilling the task), uptime obviously does.

Thnx for the info! So basicly this would mean that daily around 128k of Lisk will be forged? It would be 46 million Lisk a year so i guess i made some math mistake?

What is the benefit of having more servers? Is it just to be sure that you have 100% uptime as a delegate or it can bring you more Lisk?


Most delegates have 1 primary server for mainnet and 1 primary server for testnet.  Many also have secondary/backup servers, which run nodes with forging disabled.  Forging can be quickly switched from primary server to secondary server, in order to avoid missing blocks if the primary server goes down.

Having additional servers can bring in extra money if they are used for running sidechain delegates.  The "decentralized and public delegate marketplace" is outlined in the second section from the bottom of this blog post.  Really a great idea:

https://blog.lisk.io/what-is-lisk-and-what-it-isnt-e7b6b6188211#.diyrmz5yr
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Announcing Lisk Nano



We believe our users should be able to access their Lisk accounts anywhere, anytime, and from any device in the world. This kind of untethered accessibility is an important factor for the Lisk team but until now there were some obstacles in that regard. Installing the Lisk client on Windows and macOS computers is still quite the complicated task and we still need conduct feasibility research in order to provide native one-click clients.

Today we are introducing Lisk Nano, a light-weight, simple, and fully responsive client which allows users to access the very basic Lisk features.


Read the announcement

thanks for this. do i need to download the hole blockchain?

Just a light wallet, maybe we don't need it, i think they use light blockchain

No blockchain download. Smiley
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Announcing Lisk Nano



We believe our users should be able to access their Lisk accounts anywhere, anytime, and from any device in the world. This kind of untethered accessibility is an important factor for the Lisk team but until now there were some obstacles in that regard. Installing the Lisk client on Windows and macOS computers is still quite the complicated task and we still need conduct feasibility research in order to provide native one-click clients.

Today we are introducing Lisk Nano, a light-weight, simple, and fully responsive client which allows users to access the very basic Lisk features.


Read the announcement

thanks for this. do i need to download the hole blockchain?

Just a light wallet, maybe we don't need it, i think they use light blockchain
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I tryed to install Nano Lisk client, but my PC crashed
every time I start instalation   Sad  Angry

Seems that instalation is a bit bugy, or its just a problem with my OS.
Anyone installed Nano Lisk ?

I've installed and no problem here. Running smooth.

Smooth here aswell. What OS are you using?

64bit Win 8

Lisk Nano is based on Electron, so the problem should be on your OS. The apps are not properly signed yet, which will be done in a later version. Maybe this is the reason.
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Announcing Lisk Nano



We believe our users should be able to access their Lisk accounts anywhere, anytime, and from any device in the world. This kind of untethered accessibility is an important factor for the Lisk team but until now there were some obstacles in that regard. Installing the Lisk client on Windows and macOS computers is still quite the complicated task and we still need conduct feasibility research in order to provide native one-click clients.

Today we are introducing Lisk Nano, a light-weight, simple, and fully responsive client which allows users to access the very basic Lisk features.


Read the announcement

thanks for this. great news. do i need to download the hole blockchain? and please tell us more about system requirements. or is only a browser needed?
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More or less. As a delegate, you get 15 LSK(at least that's the last number I remember) every 17 minutes, plus transaction/other fees. So it's pretty much fixed. Specs don't really play a role(as long as the server is capable of fulfilling the task), uptime obviously does.

Thnx for the info! So basicly this would mean that daily around 128k of Lisk will be forged? It would be 46 million Lisk a year so i guess i made some math mistake?

What is the benefit of having more servers? Is it just to be sure that you have 100% uptime as a delegate or it can bring you more Lisk?



5 LSK each block forged, 4-5 blocks per hour ...it means ~480 LSK every day.



5 LSK per block. Every 17 minutes you forge a block (3/h). About 400 LSK a day or 12,000 LSK a month.

Oops… Yeah, that's quite the difference. Corrected in the other post to prevent confusion.

You can obviously try to run more than one delegate position, but I believe that it will be frowned upon.

How exactly the voting mechanisms will work out, whether there are a lot of changes or not, remains do be seen. It can very well be, that it's close to pointless to have a server waiting for a slot, as long as there are no sidechains to forge for, but the opposite can be true as well. I suspect that we will see 90+ delegates in very fixed positions and the other places will change a lot.

Once sidechains emerge, you can use your server to support those, and since most of those who do, will probably apply for a delegate position on the mainchain as well, we will have lots of good proposals to choose from and lots of backups.
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I tryed to install Nano Lisk client, but my PC crashed
every time I start instalation   Sad  Angry

Seems that instalation is a bit bugy, or its just a problem with my OS.
Anyone installed Nano Lisk ?

I've installed and no problem here. Running smooth.

Smooth here aswell. What OS are you using?

64bit Win 8
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Announcing Lisk Nano


We believe our users should be able to access their Lisk accounts anywhere, anytime, and from any device in the world. This kind of untethered accessibility is an important factor for the Lisk team but until now there were some obstacles in that regard. Installing the Lisk client on Windows and macOS computers is still quite the complicated task and we still need conduct feasibility research in order to provide native one-click clients.

Today we are introducing Lisk Nano, a light-weight, simple, and fully responsive client which allows users to access the very basic Lisk features.

Read the announcement

Congratulation for the baby lisk NANO . i wish this will increase the demand of lisk markets in the coming days .

I hope not, I've not got as much LISK as I want before the pop which will be upon us before we know it. But lets wait awhile yet, maybe after XMAS will be good.  Cheesy


yeah sure we will dump for you  Wink

from now Lisk is going to be more and more expensive if you have vision about your stack better pay some more for it now then regret later..

You need to move it under 40k then if you are going to at all. There is still enough time yet not to fomo lol Either way I have a nice stack of LISK so whatever happens I'd be happy, I'd like more around the 40k mark though if I'm honest.
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I tryed to install Nano Lisk client, but my PC crashed
every time I start instalation   Sad  Angry

Seems that instalation is a bit bugy, or its just a problem with my OS.
Anyone installed Nano Lisk ?

I've installed and no problem here. Running smooth.

Smooth here aswell. What OS are you using?
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