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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.

I won't get paid for running testnet, right? from what I see I'll be stuck there forever:

I am looking at the delegate monitor - there is just no way I can get in: already 632 delegates on standby! Almost all current delegates are the same guy (or seems like it): some guy called genesis - seems this one guy whale takes up everything.

my first impression of DPOS is not positive. No room for the little gal I am.


It is actually possible (although difficult) for a delegate to gather 14M votes right now, and take a spot of one of the genesis delegates.

This would be easier if people withdraw their Lisk from poloniex and vote.

Withdrawing your Lisk to a local wallet and voting, is not only good for decentralization of the network, but also much safer for your funds.

Yeah, especially since nearly 38% of all Lisk is on Poloniex atm. That's fucking dangerous to the health of the coin as a whole…

Btw, can someone clear somethign up for me? I've read a bit about delegates and you mostly read about renting a VPS and using that. But doesn't that mean that you rent the hardware of some serverfarm? Isn't that pretty… well, centralized? Or am I missing something? Are there people out there who run delegates on their own hardware?
On a different note, I have a RaspPi 2 laying around. Any chance that this thing can be used as a delegate (maybe for sidechains?)?


The amount of Lisk 1 delegate can forge in 1 month depends only on the server that he has, meaning specs and uptime?

More or less. As a delegate, you get 5 LSK(at least that's the last number I remember) every 17 minutes, plus transaction/other fees. So it's pretty much fixed. Specs don't really play a role(as long as the server is capable of fulfilling the task), uptime obviously does.

Edit: Amount of Lisk corrected
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The amount of Lisk 1 delegate can forge in 1 month depends only on the server that he has, meaning specs and uptime?
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.

I won't get paid for running testnet, right? from what I see I'll be stuck there forever:

I am looking at the delegate monitor - there is just no way I can get in: already 632 delegates on standby! Almost all current delegates are the same guy (or seems like it): some guy called genesis - seems this one guy whale takes up everything.

my first impression of DPOS is not positive. No room for the little gal I am.


It is actually possible (although difficult) for a delegate to gather 14M votes right now, and take a spot of one of the genesis delegates.

This would be easier if people withdraw their Lisk from poloniex and vote.

Withdrawing your Lisk to a local wallet and voting, is not only good for decentralization of the network, but also much safer for your funds.
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I think we will still have to wait some time for the price to rise. There is currently nothing special happening on the Lisk. 0.3.2 release will make it more stable but this is not gonna pump the price. Neither will the new office when it's rented.

I think the price will come with media and the media attention will come when things start to get developed on the Lisk blockchain.

I think there is your last chance to get in lisk on this prices, buy book almost doubled there need to be a reason for it.

Lisk is on low trading volume, if there is no whale who buys and sells every few hours, there would be no trades at all. You need to get market alive before nice pump, i think that is whats happening now

I love when im right!  Roll Eyes     Polo volume never lower 220BTC/24H  Grin

Also when i start to think i was wrong and make first move, my original thought come truth. My universe playing same old song to me, prepare for da storm!   Wink
legendary
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According to the last technical meeting we are moving away from the fact that it becomes available with 0.4.0, because we are now using a semantic versioning scheme. (http://semver.org)

Soon there will be a milestone which will work as an activator for community delegates. That means at the end of the day nothing changes, but the numbers might be a bit higher, because we "have to" follow the semantic versioning rules.

Thanks, I think more delegates (= more decentralisation / more security) is a good thing. I also think it is good you are re-evaluating the innitial approach, which ofcourse takes time. I am running a testnode + mainnode from the beginning. It is a great way to get a grasp on how thing work.

If people are thinking about supporting the network and perhaps be a delegate now is your chance, since numbers will likely be increased.  Smiley
legendary
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.
I was wondering , except the experience and every manual that lisk devs have provided us, should the delegates also have some serious programming skills?

Not at all. I don't code but I managed to become a delegate and run a full node on the testnet in less then 5hrs with the help of others Lisk minded members on Lisk.chat and with the numerous manuals available. Join us! For me personally it's a learning process that I enjoy particularly and the community is fantastic.
Ok you convinced me, as a true lisker I will give it a try by the next month. When will forging be enabled?

Forging is already enabled - on testnet.

For mainnet it is envisioned that Forging starts with version 0.4.0.


According to the last technical meeting we are moving away from the fact that it becomes available with 0.4.0, because we are now using a semantic versioning scheme. (http://semver.org)

Soon there will be a milestone which will work as an activator for community delegates. That means at the end of the day nothing changes, but the numbers might be a bit higher, because we "have to" follow the semantic versioning rules.


Ah OK. I have overlooked this point in the summary.

So sorry for my wrong information.  Wink

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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.
I was wondering , except the experience and every manual that lisk devs have provided us, should the delegates also have some serious programming skills?

Not at all. I don't code but I managed to become a delegate and run a full node on the testnet in less then 5hrs with the help of others Lisk minded members on Lisk.chat and with the numerous manuals available. Join us! For me personally it's a learning process that I enjoy particularly and the community is fantastic.
Ok you convinced me, as a true lisker I will give it a try by the next month. When will forging be enabled?

Forging is already enabled - on testnet.

For mainnet it is envisioned that Forging starts with version 0.4.0.


According to the last technical meeting we are moving away from the fact that it becomes available with 0.4.0, because we are now using a semantic versioning scheme. (http://semver.org)

Soon there will be a milestone which will work as an activator for community delegates. That means at the end of the day nothing changes, but the numbers might be a bit higher, because we "have to" follow the semantic versioning rules.
sr. member
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.
I was wondering , except the experience and every manual that lisk devs have provided us, should the delegates also have some serious programming skills?

Not at all. I don't code but I managed to become a delegate and run a full node on the testnet in less then 5hrs with the help of others Lisk minded members on Lisk.chat and with the numerous manuals available. Join us! For me personally it's a learning process that I enjoy particularly and the community is fantastic.
Ok you convinced me, as a true lisker I will give it a try by the next month. When will forging be enabled?

Forging is already enabled - on testnet.

For mainnet it is envisioned that Forging starts with version 0.4.0.

yes that's what I meant. Is there a time prediction for when version 0.4.0. will be released?
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Uptrend looks right to me. Trading in the high range of the bolinger band. 2 hours of weak sell pressure hasn't moved it below 45000 satoshi. Think its prepping to test 50k soon. With all the other crypto losing momentum the funds could flow back here for a trade. That's how most of crypto works anyways. Funny to see the DGB leadup and 1 hour later its already onto the next one.

I do not see an uptrend currently. For me that is a short term tick in the chart for now. LSK can still go down a little bit but as long as it stays above 40k satoshis then we are still ok. If it goes below it I will support and bid at 35k satoshis and increase my stake. Smiley

It's definitely a uptrend Smiley
If you want to increase your stake, you should try to catch LSK above 41ksat
we will never see 35ksat my friend




it can't go back to 35ksat the trend is to keep it from where it is now so lsk will keep on moving up for
sure just hold some and wait for a perfect timing position to sell it up.

It can't
and we will never is not the smartest terms to be using in crypto lol

I have observed the chat since the first day, you are right, everything can happen, but i try to deliver a objective opinion in relationship to the distribution on a percentage basis in relation to the capabilities.
the corollary is my opionion.
You can believe it or not.










legendary
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.
I was wondering , except the experience and every manual that lisk devs have provided us, should the delegates also have some serious programming skills?

Not at all. I don't code but I managed to become a delegate and run a full node on the testnet in less then 5hrs with the help of others Lisk minded members on Lisk.chat and with the numerous manuals available. Join us! For me personally it's a learning process that I enjoy particularly and the community is fantastic.
Ok you convinced me, as a true lisker I will give it a try by the next month. When will forging be enabled?

Forging is already enabled - on testnet.

For mainnet it is envisioned that Forging starts with version 0.4.0.
sr. member
Activity: 351
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.
I was wondering , except the experience and every manual that lisk devs have provided us, should the delegates also have some serious programming skills?

Not at all. I don't code but I managed to become a delegate and run a full node on the testnet in less then 5hrs with the help of others Lisk minded members on Lisk.chat and with the numerous manuals available. Join us! For me personally it's a learning process that I enjoy particularly and the community is fantastic.
Ok you convinced me, as a true lisker I will give it a try by the next month. When will forging be enabled?
sr. member
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Uptrend looks right to me. Trading in the high range of the bolinger band. 2 hours of weak sell pressure hasn't moved it below 45000 satoshi. Think its prepping to test 50k soon. With all the other crypto losing momentum the funds could flow back here for a trade. That's how most of crypto works anyways. Funny to see the DGB leadup and 1 hour later its already onto the next one.

I do not see an uptrend currently. For me that is a short term tick in the chart for now. LSK can still go down a little bit but as long as it stays above 40k satoshis then we are still ok. If it goes below it I will support and bid at 35k satoshis and increase my stake. Smiley

It's definitely a uptrend Smiley
If you want to increase your stake, you should try to catch LSK above 41ksat
we will never see 35ksat my friend




it can't go back to 35ksat the trend is to keep it from where it is now so lsk will keep on moving up for
sure just hold some and wait for a perfect timing position to sell it up.

It can't
and we will never is not the smartest terms to be using in crypto lol
hero member
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Uptrend looks right to me. Trading in the high range of the bolinger band. 2 hours of weak sell pressure hasn't moved it below 45000 satoshi. Think its prepping to test 50k soon. With all the other crypto losing momentum the funds could flow back here for a trade. That's how most of crypto works anyways. Funny to see the DGB leadup and 1 hour later its already onto the next one.

I do not see an uptrend currently. For me that is a short term tick in the chart for now. LSK can still go down a little bit but as long as it stays above 40k satoshis then we are still ok. If it goes below it I will support and bid at 35k satoshis and increase my stake. Smiley

It's definitely a uptrend Smiley
If you want to increase your stake, you should try to catch LSK above 41ksat
we will never see 35ksat my friend




it can't go back to 35ksat the trend is to keep it from where it is now so lsk will keep on moving up for
sure just hold some and wait for a perfect timing position to sell it up.
sr. member
Activity: 539
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Uptrend looks right to me. Trading in the high range of the bolinger band. 2 hours of weak sell pressure hasn't moved it below 45000 satoshi. Think its prepping to test 50k soon. With all the other crypto losing momentum the funds could flow back here for a trade. That's how most of crypto works anyways. Funny to see the DGB leadup and 1 hour later its already onto the next one.

I do not see an uptrend currently. For me that is a short term tick in the chart for now. LSK can still go down a little bit but as long as it stays above 40k satoshis then we are still ok. If it goes below it I will support and bid at 35k satoshis and increase my stake. Smiley

It's definitely a uptrend Smiley
If you want to increase your stake, you should try to catch LSK above 41ksat
we will never see 35ksat my friend



legendary
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I won't get paid for running testnet, right? from what I see I'll be stuck there forever:

I am looking at the delegate monitor - there is just no way I can get in: already 632 delegates on standby! Almost all current delegates are the same guy (or seems like it): some guy called genesis - seems this one guy whale takes up everything.

my first impression of DPOS is not positive. No room for the little gal I am.

genesis delegates are LiskHQs and will be replaced once Client and Network proves to be stable enough to do so. as of standby delegates and no way of getting in, that's simply not true since the whole Lisk concept is pretty much democratic. you just need to get enough people to vote for you.. there are a lot of ways of doing this, start by posting your candidacy HERE and join testnet asap and prove you can run node long and efficient. Some of us, mostly members of GDT are on testnet since beginning (6month+) having great stats and for sure without any effort/expenses you can't expect that you will have spot open waiting for you to take. the same with politic elections, you need to be donald. stand out from the crowd and put some effort into it. there is no secret whale that will take over all 101 delegate spots and take over Lisk network, not as long as max&oliver&GDT&community can influence election with their voting power. truth is there are us little guys that put effort into it since beginning and got support from community and believe me it's still not too late for you to join just get your finger out and stand up.

Setup Testnet delegate video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUzkb7mYerQ
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The genesis delegates are run by the Lisk team to stabilize the main network while forking issues resulting from voting changing the ranking of the delegates are worked out. These will be down-voted and replaced with community run delegates when forging with block rewards actually starts.
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes.  

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.

I won't get paid for running testnet, right? from what I see I'll be stuck there forever:

I am looking at the delegate monitor - there is just no way I can get in: already 632 delegates on standby! Almost all current delegates are the same guy (or seems like it): some guy called genesis - seems this one guy whale takes up everything.

my first impression of DPOS is not positive. No room for the little gal I am.
legendary
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Uptrend looks right to me. Trading in the high range of the bolinger band. 2 hours of weak sell pressure hasn't moved it below 45000 satoshi. Think its prepping to test 50k soon. With all the other crypto losing momentum the funds could flow back here for a trade. That's how most of crypto works anyways. Funny to see the DGB leadup and 1 hour later its already onto the next one.

I do not see an uptrend currently. For me that is a short term tick in the chart for now. LSK can still go down a little bit but as long as it stays above 40k satoshis then we are still ok. If it goes below it I will support and bid at 35k satoshis and increase my stake. Smiley
sr. member
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While there is competition to become a delegate for the main chain, there will be plenty of demand to run delegates for the sidechains.
Thank you for your answer; however it is earning Lisk I am interested in, and since it's almost impossible to become a delegate of the main Lisk blockchain, can you point me to a sidechain which will allow me to earn Lisk for securing it?

Wrong.  We currently do not have anywhere near 101 people running testnet nodes. 

https://testnet-explorer.lisk.io/delegateMonitor

Just click on "Status" to do a sort and look at the block of red dots.  You can start a testnet node tonight and turn one of those red dots into a green dot with your name beside it.  You wanna become a Lisk Mainnet Active Delegate when forging rewards eventually get turned on?  Do your testnet homework now.  Go to lisk.chat, start hanging out at #testnet, and direct message joel that you want to run a testnet node.  The people running testnet nodes now are the only Liskers who are going to have sufficient experience to run mainnet nodes soon.
I was wondering , except the experience and every manual that lisk devs have provided us, should the delegates also have some serious programming skills?

Not at all. I don't code but I managed to become a delegate and run a full node on the testnet in less then 5hrs with the help of others Lisk minded members on Lisk.chat and with the numerous manuals available. Join us! For me personally it's a learning process that I enjoy particularly and the community is fantastic.
hero member
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If the Lisk business license takes 6-8 weeks, when did they first submit it for approval?

On 30th of July they were in week one. See question 17 (ICO funds) here. It takes 3-12 weeks.
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