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Sunnyfive

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Quote from: denihilism on July 26, 2014, 06:30:45 PM

I definitely think anon features are pointless and will not help you carve out your niche, keep developing the dota 2 betting system instead. Anonymous transactions won't help the coin, nobody is going to be using this to launder money

yes, anonymous is just for pump and dump, just focus the betting, it's real application.

Starscream

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Don't expect to much.

I checked out that droopy caster and he barely has any viewers...

Need to hype the tournament via TL.

Offermann

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Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 10:10:08 AM

Quote from: Offermann on July 27, 2014, 10:04:52 AM

No advertisment for the tournament? No site redo?

Most advertisement will be conducted through participants social networks (it will be tenth of thousands, and possibly hundreds of thousands vews). Site - as much as i wandted to get it done by that time we will not be ready by the Aug 2d. However we feel that Immortal site is enough for the tournament http://www.immortalsesports.com/ and live betting platform is looking good enough. Dont forget this is just first attempt.

Have you considered doing an ad on reddit? 0.75 $ for 1000 impression is a good deal.

MineralsPR

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Quote from: Offermann on July 27, 2014, 10:04:52 AM

No advertisment for the tournament? No site redo?

Most advertisement will be conducted through participants social networks (it will be tenth of thousands, and possibly hundreds of thousands vews). Site - as much as i wandted to get it done by that time we will not be ready by the Aug 2d. However we feel that Immortal site is enough for the tournament http://www.immortalsesports.com/ and live betting platform is looking good enough. Dont forget this is just first attempt.

Offermann

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No advertisment for the tournament? No site redo?

MineralsPR

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Quote from: sdersdf2 on July 27, 2014, 09:33:12 AM

Quote from: jc12345 on July 27, 2014, 12:04:33 AM

Quote from: chinchs on July 26, 2014, 11:59:15 PM

Quote from: TheFridge on July 26, 2014, 09:47:35 PM

The only reason people are screaming Anon is so they can get a quick pump and get rid of their bags for higher profit. That is not what this coin is about

It's not about p&d, I believe in this project (I promoted every news in twitter, also donated several times), but we need to listen to the market. You said this coin is not about anon... but it isn't about a tournament paying with dollars neither (I think it was the smarter thing to do). So, don't be stubborn. if anon is not complicated and we can make it in a few days, lets do it.

I fully agree with you and although I would say go for it and do anon, it might be best to take a step back, look at the bigger picture and give the betting and tournament a chance first, which is the primary strategy of Minerals. Anon is what that market wants and will send the price through the roof, but it might cause an impact to the functionality at the tournament which Minerals cannot afford. Let the devs bag the tournament successfully and then implement the add-on anon features from 3 Aug onwards. This would be a good mid-way compromise. It is just a week from now.

Just catching up on this coin - when does this tournament happen - what's the key date and are there any other key dates?

August 2d - tournament sponsored by BTC community and Minerals dev team with live betting, most know SC II professional players, casters, live betting on our own gambling platform and bacon.
August 10th - Dota 2 betting service alpha test

sdersdf2

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Quote from: jc12345 on July 27, 2014, 12:04:33 AM

Quote from: chinchs on July 26, 2014, 11:59:15 PM

Quote from: TheFridge on July 26, 2014, 09:47:35 PM

The only reason people are screaming Anon is so they can get a quick pump and get rid of their bags for higher profit. That is not what this coin is about

It's not about p&d, I believe in this project (I promoted every news in twitter, also donated several times), but we need to listen to the market. You said this coin is not about anon... but it isn't about a tournament paying with dollars neither (I think it was the smarter thing to do). So, don't be stubborn. if anon is not complicated and we can make it in a few days, lets do it.

I fully agree with you and although I would say go for it and do anon, it might be best to take a step back, look at the bigger picture and give the betting and tournament a chance first, which is the primary strategy of Minerals. Anon is what that market wants and will send the price through the roof, but it might cause an impact to the functionality at the tournament which Minerals cannot afford. Let the devs bag the tournament successfully and then implement the add-on anon features from 3 Aug onwards. This would be a good mid-way compromise. It is just a week from now.

Just catching up on this coin - when does this tournament happen - what's the key date and are there any other key dates?

MineralsPR

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Quote from: Hodor_keeper_of_the_light on July 27, 2014, 08:19:34 AM

Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 12:37:59 AM

Anon suggestions wrap up:

KeyCoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-key-keycoin-fair-launch-daily-updates-89-status-update-695457
Vootcoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annvoot-old-thread-639371
SyncCoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann1000-sync-proof-of-stake-now-run-by-blockchain-development-company-607919 - Uses NiteSend. Did not found source. But idea is interesting.
DarkSend - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndash-dash-dashorg-first-self-funding-self-governing-crypto-currency-421615 - No source, Does not work very stable (Forked quite a few times already)

For obvious reasons Keycoin is in the lead atm. I`ll give devs a link so they can look into it and get back to you guys. Keep anon links flowing if you really need anon that bad. Pls bash me if i forgot something.

Supersend from Supercoin. Pseudocoin implemented it's own working anon feature.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/pseudocashpseudrare-22-mil-coinsanon-currency-676343 - Pseudocoin seems pretty centralized. Also is there a source?
And i dont really like this phrase in Supercoin: "Remember that this is a trustless system, any node may cheat if it can." Besides SuperCoin is still in phase 1 (read - fully centralized). Its not finished and not even close judging from their timeline.

Please everyone - dont consider my words as fud - I`m carefuly cinsidering every option you present from the usability perspective. We can make custom mixing pool and host it at minerals.pro in 1 week but will it satisfy your needs? Will someone use it or it will be a waste of our money and effort to feed daily traders?

Hodor_keeper_of_the_light

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Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 12:37:59 AM

Anon suggestions wrap up:

KeyCoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-key-keycoin-fair-launch-daily-updates-89-status-update-695457
Vootcoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annvoot-old-thread-639371
SyncCoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann1000-sync-proof-of-stake-now-run-by-blockchain-development-company-607919 - Uses NiteSend. Did not found source. But idea is interesting.
DarkSend - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndash-dash-dashorg-first-self-funding-self-governing-crypto-currency-421615 - No source, Does not work very stable (Forked quite a few times already)

For obvious reasons Keycoin is in the lead atm. I`ll give devs a link so they can look into it and get back to you guys. Keep anon links flowing if you really need anon that bad. Pls bash me if i forgot something.

Supersend from Supercoin. Pseudocoin implemented it's own working anon feature.

jc12345

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Quote from: Skydog on July 27, 2014, 07:47:32 AM

Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 04:42:06 AM

Besides there is awfuly little information about NiteSend around. I`m not even sure the guy I spoke to is real dev. So disregard this 8 BTC price for now. Need more time to investigate things.

What exactly are the plans until the tournament? Whats in the pipeline? Any advertisment planned?

Ageed, there must be tons of advertisement this week.

Skydog

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Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 04:42:06 AM

Besides there is awfuly little information about NiteSend around. I`m not even sure the guy I spoke to is real dev. So disregard this 8 BTC price for now. Need more time to investigate things.

What exactly are the plans until the tournament? Whats in the pipeline? Any advertisment planned?

MineralsPR

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Besides there is awfuly little information about NiteSend around. I`m not even sure the guy I spoke to is real dev. So disregard this 8 BTC price for now. Need more time to investigate things.

MineralsPR

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Quote from: Offermann on July 27, 2014, 04:37:37 AM

Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

Ok NiteSend costs 8 BTC. It is not a joke. Are you guys ready to donate this amount, and if not all then how much?

Also looks like XC have plans to release their anon freely soon https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxc-mandatory-update-to-new-wallet-the-first-pos-x11-anonymous-wallet-600706

I don't think 8btc in donations is realistic. Maybe 2. Maaaybe.

Yup - exactly my thoughts.

Offermann

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Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

Ok NiteSend costs 8 BTC. It is not a joke. Are you guys ready to donate this amount, and if not all then how much?

Also looks like XC have plans to release their anon freely soon https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxc-mandatory-update-to-new-wallet-the-first-pos-x11-anonymous-wallet-600706

I don't think 8btc in donations is realistic. Maybe 2. Maaaybe.

MineralsPR

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Quote from: Sunnyfive on July 27, 2014, 04:21:12 AM

Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

Ok NiteSend costs 8 BTC. It is not a joke. Are you guys ready to donate this amount, and if not all then how much?

Also looks like XC have plans to release their anon freely soon https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxc-mandatory-update-to-new-wallet-the-first-pos-x11-anonymous-wallet-600706

why need cost 8 btc, pay to whom?

NiteSend source costs 8 BTC. That is the price for the reliable and functioning anon. Must be payed to NiteSend dev. I`m talking to him about lowering this amount but this is the initial offer.

Sunnyfive

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Quote from: MineralsPR on July 27, 2014, 04:05:41 AM

Ok NiteSend costs 8 BTC. It is not a joke. Are you guys ready to donate this amount, and if not all then how much?

Also looks like XC have plans to release their anon freely soon https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxc-mandatory-update-to-new-wallet-the-first-pos-x11-anonymous-wallet-600706

why need cost 8 btc, pay to whom?

MineralsPR

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Ok NiteSend costs 8 BTC. It is not a joke. Are you guys ready to donate this amount, and if not all then how much?

Also looks like XC have plans to release their anon freely soon https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annxc-mandatory-update-to-new-wallet-the-first-pos-x11-anonymous-wallet-600706

MineralsPR

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Quote from: denihilism on July 27, 2014, 02:46:17 AM

When will dota 2 betting be added? Let's be honest from a business standpoint it was really stupid to first go for a game that is all but completely dead. You could have had it ready for the international. Silly mistakes for what reason?

PS This website is so annoying to post on, can't do it without trying 10 times over 30 minutes what a disaster

Soon

We are actively working on it.

denihilism

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When will dota 2 betting be added? Let's be honest from a business standpoint it was really stupid to first go for a game that is all but completely dead. You could have had it ready for the international. Silly mistakes for what reason?

PS This website is so annoying to post on, can't do it without trying 10 times over 30 minutes what a disaster

MineralsPR

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Anon suggestions update:

KeyCoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-key-keycoin-fair-launch-daily-updates-89-status-update-695457 - Uses cenralised anon service. Does not look very good. We will conduct further research.
Vootcoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annvoot-old-thread-639371 - Uses NiteSend/thor. Did not found source.
SyncCoin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann1000-sync-proof-of-stake-now-run-by-blockchain-development-company-607919 - Uses NiteSend. Did not found source. But idea is interesting.
DarkSend - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndash-dash-dashorg-first-self-funding-self-governing-crypto-currency-421615 - No source, Does not work very stable (Forked quite a few times already)

From first glance Looks like NiteSend is way to go. We will continue investigation

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