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Topic: [ANN][MZC][SHA-256] MAZACOIN *First Sovereign Currency* ANDROID WALLET AVAIL.!! - page 18. (Read 278477 times)

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Shine Like The Sun
Currency is not the only way to use Mazacoin - the team found out at mt. Shasta that there is way more interest in autonomous organizations and governance structures - https://mazacoin.org/starcamp-shasta-rainbows-unicorns

Freedomland could be implemented to the Mazachain and this would be the only "law" we need. We must see beyond the current law since it only protects the 1% of world population.

- Tomi

ps. If you have an alternative plan how to develop Mazacoin, all ideas are welcome






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Fine to say "we are all natives" or "we are all free" but in this context it takes away from practicalities.

A currency has more potential than a bumper sticker, if it is developed properly.
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You are very clever aswell no-ice-please, but have not understood freedom and being a native in universal scale - we are all free natives. Look up to the nightsky and you will understand.

 - Tomi

ps. today is the first autumn day


Yes, if only more could look down from the night sky too!

A link to a perspective that I wish more could see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1KruJjxyQg

thanks for the link.
it's precious to share the perspective that there is something special beyond the mundane that is  ...meaningful
this 'feeling' seems to have strong roots in this comunity
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You are very clever aswell no-ice-please, but have not understood freedom and being a native in universal scale - we are all free natives. Look up to the nightsky and you will understand.

 - Tomi

ps. today is the first autumn day


Yes, if only more could look down from the night sky too!

A link to a perspective that I wish more could see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1KruJjxyQg
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Shine Like The Sun
You are very clever aswell no-ice-please, but have not understood freedom and being a native in universal scale - we are all free natives. Look up to the nightsky and you will understand.

 - Tomi

ps. today is the first autumn day
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quote: most people will perceive "We want money to do xyz" rather than "We want to do xyz"
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The only way to solicit money successfully from others long term is with a gun.

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... it can be anything the land has to offer (fish, lifestock, plants, fruits etc.)

- Tomi





If Mazacoin's natural economy were based on real primary commodities it would have a strong foundation. You are a smart gamain. But it has to be first amongst Natives, not amongst "people who support Mazacoin (from outside)".
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quote: most people will perceive "We want money to do xyz" rather than "We want to do xyz"

This is a very good point, have to finetune the message further. The tobacco idea is very good, but it can be anything the land has to offer (fish, lifestock, plants, fruits etc.)

- Tomi



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The Mazacoin Development Team is going to launch a crowdfund campaign where we will square meter by square meter take back the lands of free people(we all are related and free). The idea is then to use these Freedomlands in a sustainable manner.

This idea of farming tobacco plant could very well be one way to use the lands we will acquire. You can read more about the campaign from this link -> http://www.indiegogo.com/project/preview/f8d241a0

Please, share any ideas you might have or critics, let's make this campaign even better

- Tomi








 

By soliciting money as the basis for that campaign you are dooming it to failure. Most people will perceive "We want money to do xyz" rather than "We want to do xyz".

As a person who is entirely of European extraction, with no Native blood, I will represent the Europeans who are occupying the Americas. I hereby dissolve the U.S. government and cancel all treaties. As of today Natives are in charge of the lands they have been managing for thousands of years.

Freedomland voila.

If there are any powertripping goosestepping rodents with badges and guns who disobey they must be arrested, as they are violating the law.

While the new law is going into effect there may still be roving bands of gangsters adhering to their own old mob law. Do not try to correct them solo. Make a note of them and contact authorities.
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Shine Like The Sun
The Mazacoin Development Team is going to launch a crowdfund campaign where we will square meter by square meter take back the lands of free people(we all are related and free). The idea is then to use these Freedomlands in a sustainable manner.

This idea of farming tobacco plant could very well be one way to use the lands we will acquire. You can read more about the campaign from this link -> http://www.indiegogo.com/project/preview/f8d241a0

Please, share any ideas you might have or critics, let's make this campaign even better

- Tomi








 
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quote: "What is that circular thing with a Mazacoin address in the video, and what is the significance of the other letters around the address?"

Hi,

I like the idea of tobacco business, this idea could be developed further. The letters around the public address is private key (part of the private key). The pictures are from Mazacoin woodwallets, you can read more here -> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/silver-mazacoin#/story

- Tomi



That page made me think of the comments added to the Mazacoin website today. "Marketing" doesn't really work as well as practical stuff. The silver thing is artsy and cool but you can't smoke it so most people will pass it by.

Here is an idea. If someone who lives on or near a res out in that area, I am faraway, want to look for a local who might be interested in starting a tobacco business, I'll chip in a little to help the person get started. Emphasis on little because I'm not rich, but if a few people help someone there get started and they sell tobacco at a reasonable price they could do well.

It should be as raw as possible, no chemicals etc like American Spirit. Even undried leaves, in fact that would have a novelty aura that might attract people. e.g. "One pound of fresh undried, untreated tobacco leaf for $20us or the equivalent of $15 in mzc." American spirit is $15 for 1.41 ounces where I live so I would buy.
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quote: "What is that circular thing with a Mazacoin address in the video, and what is the significance of the other letters around the address?"

Hi,

I like the idea of tobacco business, this idea could be developed further. The letters around the public address is private key (part of the private key). The pictures are from Mazacoin woodwallets, you can read more here -> https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/silver-mazacoin#/story

- Tomi

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Hey just wanted to let you guys know we added you to our pool www.zapminer.com I hope to see you there.
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Agreed you tie MAZACOIN to tobacco in the form of  maybe a tokens for natural tobacco and you have a serious winner. Have dispensaries, online store and incentives.  Raw tobacco and related products. Pay in cash or with MZC receive a discount with MZC.

Even MZC branded e-cigs half the profit buys back into MZC to invest in the currency and future MZC assets.

You can buy bulk e-cigs on alibaba for very cheap, rebrand them and sell them

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=esigarette

Anyone can start a tobacco business surely, but if there were an entirely Native tobacco company at the wholesale level, which operated entirely through Native government structures and accepted only Native currency it would get a lot of support. Their retailers would need to accept local currencies e.g. dollars but they too would prefer Native currency if their wholesaler only dealt in it.
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What is that circular thing with a Mazacoin address in the video, and what is the significance of the other letters around the address?

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Better than casinos, Maza needs to sell tobacco.

"In 2012, tobacco companies spent $9.6 billion marketing cigarettes and smokeless tobacco in the United States alone. This amount translates to about $26 million each day, or more than $1 million every hour." http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/economics/econ_facts/index.htm

"The world tobacco industry generated sales of almost $721 billion in 2010, according to MarketLine. Cigarettes represent the leading market segment with revenue exceeding $681 billion..."   http://www.reportlinker.com/ci02053/Tobacco.html

Someone start a tobacco wholesaler that accepts only Mazacoin? The MZC market would be very volatile for a while but nobody would lose money.



Agreed you tie MAZACOIN to tobacco in the form of  maybe a tokens for natural tobacco and you have a serious winner. Have dispensaries, online store and incentives.  Raw tobacco and related products. Pay in cash or with MZC receive a discount with MZC.

Even MZC branded e-cigs half the profit buys back into MZC to invest in the currency and future MZC assets.

You can buy bulk e-cigs on alibaba for very cheap, rebrand them and sell them

http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_en&CatId=&SearchText=esigarette
hero member
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What is that circular thing with a Mazacoin address in the video, and what is the significance of the other letters around the address?

~~~~~~~~~

Better than casinos, Maza needs to sell tobacco.

"In 2012, tobacco companies spent $9.6 billion marketing cigarettes and smokeless tobacco in the United States alone. This amount translates to about $26 million each day, or more than $1 million every hour." http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/economics/econ_facts/index.htm

"The world tobacco industry generated sales of almost $721 billion in 2010, according to MarketLine. Cigarettes represent the leading market segment with revenue exceeding $681 billion..."   http://www.reportlinker.com/ci02053/Tobacco.html

Someone start a tobacco wholesaler that accepts only Mazacoin? The MZC market would be very volatile for a while but nobody would lose money.

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website updated!

mazacoin.org

Was a cpl weeks ago but didn't see anyone mention it here yet. Sounds like they are gonna be going on a major tour to promote the coin to the ppl it was actually made for. I think we all agree this is something we really need to have happen if we want the coin to be more than just a speculator only crypto like so many others. And who better to spread the word than Payu himself!
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MazaCoin block explorer is up!

http://mzc.explorer.bitnodes.net/


Cheers!

Doesn't seem to be up to date.


2/secondly (i should know this but haven't massed around with wallets in longtime)
if after wallet is downloaded and synced and I restart qt wallet and hasn't caught up with latest blocks, can i add a password then? before caught up?
as remember when adding a passord from longtime back, wallet shuts down, then restart later after adding a password

appreciate any replies
cheers

All wallets will shut down when you add a password but it will only lose a few seconds synch time. Password is important enough to spend a few seconds on. More security if you create the wallet on an offline computer then download the blockchain and when you need to send coins rescan with the wallet.dat you created offline.

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Maza has had plenty of publicity.

What it lacks is credibility because nobody has started promoting it adequately among the tribes.

When someone seriously starts promoting it as a tribal currency it will jump to the sky. I'm willing to donate a fair amount of my coins to a solid distribution effort but it has to be directly to people for whom the coin is intended.

A lot of MZC holders are probably willing to donate substantially to distributing the coin but it has to be in a practical way.


With Mazacoin being SHA-256, same as bitcoin,

how many of the miners, do you think, are actually native indians?

Isn't it just bitcoin miners, who then mine any old SHA-256 coin?

The miners get their hands on the coins before anyone else does,

what if most of the miners are actually non-indians?

Wouldn't it make sense, to have an indian coin,

where it is the indians who do all the mining,

therefore the indians get their hands on the coin first?

I don't think there is any controls over who mines the coins though,

so although it is named after something indian,

it might actually be anyone on the internet(including non-indians)

who actually are mining the coin.



Thats why I am saying its not about getting native people to baghold all the coin. Its about using the coin to get actual wealth into their community. We have a liquid market and a well secured network (everyone in the world shares this asset.) But its obviously branded such that a merchant who was from a tribe would probably find alot more customers than any other merchant accepting it. We don't even need it to be mass adopted in the tribes, just have some merchants accepting it, and thus causing wealth to flow into their community. If they just had all the crypto but it constantly lost value cause no one outside also wanted to buy it, I would not say that actually increases their wealth.
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The Smoker Friendly Coin 2BACCO
Maza has had plenty of publicity.

What it lacks is credibility because nobody has started promoting it adequately among the tribes.

When someone seriously starts promoting it as a tribal currency it will jump to the sky. I'm willing to donate a fair amount of my coins to a solid distribution effort but it has to be directly to people for whom the coin is intended.

A lot of MZC holders are probably willing to donate substantially to distributing the coin but it has to be in a practical way.


With Mazacoin being SHA-256, same as bitcoin,

how many of the miners, do you think, are actually native indians?

Isn't it just bitcoin miners, who then mine any old SHA-256 coin?

The miners get their hands on the coins before anyone else does,

what if most of the miners are actually non-indians?

Wouldn't it make sense, to have an indian coin,

where it is the indians who do all the mining,

therefore the indians get their hands on the coin first?

I don't think there is any controls over who mines the coins though,

so although it is named after something indian,

it might actually be anyone on the internet(including non-indians)

who actually are mining the coin.

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