All right, well this at leasts gets a Mac OSX version out that has mm support.
https://www.box.com/s/vm9qkjchjok3vbhatt6m
Topic: [ANNOUNCE] Ixcoin - a new Bitcoin fork - page 9. (Read 128404 times)
Not to build in, no, as my only nodes so far are really mainly for bitcoin and devcoin.
People will just have to wait for lfnet to come back up if they find it down, for now, pr get a -addnode to add temporarily just the once to get them initially running.
I am heading toward getting more infrastructure set up but unfortunately it is taking time. The fact the CAvirtex has seemingly stopped doing withdrawals isn't helping either.
What you could do though is plug in hostnames that hopefully one day WILL point at nodes.
So maybe plug in ixcstable01 through ixcstable05 on knotwork.com, or something like that?
Then those hostnames can be populated with IP addresses once nodes are set up.
-MarkM-
People will just have to wait for lfnet to come back up if they find it down, for now, pr get a -addnode to add temporarily just the once to get them initially running.
I am heading toward getting more infrastructure set up but unfortunately it is taking time. The fact the CAvirtex has seemingly stopped doing withdrawals isn't helping either.
What you could do though is plug in hostnames that hopefully one day WILL point at nodes.
So maybe plug in ixcstable01 through ixcstable05 on knotwork.com, or something like that?
Then those hostnames can be populated with IP addresses once nodes are set up.
-MarkM-
I am going to update the mac port.
However, I noticed all the seed nodes built seem to be bad, and with lfnet being flakey it is hard to bootstrap.
Anyone have any seed nodes they run they can give me the ip to to plug in before I upload?
However, I noticed all the seed nodes built seem to be bad, and with lfnet being flakey it is hard to bootstrap.
Anyone have any seed nodes they run they can give me the ip to to plug in before I upload?
Ixcoin should be trading up near .002 BTC per coin, just like all the other generic alts.
maybe when we get some answers
edit: why wouldn't anyone merge mine namecoins.. the only coin that actually does something.. edit.. but then, would they have more than 50% of the network.. and does it work like that with merge mining
BTCGuild did merged mining on the old getwork servers. His implementation of stratum does not do merged mining, and I think he is busy enough with other things that he isn't going to bother adding in something that apparently very few of his users care about.
Ixcoin should be trading up near .002 BTC per coin, just like all the other generic alts.
Interested in the answers as well
Lol you're more impulsive than I am
Good questions. I'd be interested to know the answers too. 
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
thanks.. i think we need to delve deeper into this rabbit hole
every pool should be merge mining.. i'm guessing all the pro's are.. but the noob pools are not.. seems a little bit like "secretly stealing money" if they aren't declaring it?
by looking at the hash rates
Network
GH/sec
Bitcoin 84,150.3997
Devcoin 1,638.3046
Freicoin 2,337.9647
Feathercoi 0.5389
Ixcoin 1,434.6362
Litecoin 19.1917
Namecoin 18,248.9634
Ppcoin 2,894.8738
Terracoin 489.3262
i assume that the hash rate in merged mining would be the same (sorry if i'm wrong, just seems logical)..
example... if i merged mine bitcoin and namecoins at 1.5ghash, they both get 1.5ghash..
so.. atm.. bitparking is mining at 1180.66ghash... this is over 50% of the namecoin pool.. BUT.. it says ixcoin is only getting 1.5ghash.. so it can't be merge mined on bitparking?
please correct me.. as i must be wrong, as this does not add up
I made a mistake... 1180ghash is not 51%+ of 18248ghash.. i just bought my nmc back at a loss.. hate this game lol.. but the ixc (if bitparking are mining it) has 80% at a guess
would be interesting to know how this works...
BTCGuild has say 30-40% of the bitcoin network.. 30k gh/s.. this is more than the 18gh/s on the namecoin pool... so either
1. The Hash Rate for merge mining is not the same with 2 different chains (logically you would think they would be if the same algorithm?).
2. BTCGuild stopped merged mining because of the very reason of having more than 51% hashing power on the chain??.. because, why would you not merge mine if you could....
google search shows they did do merge mining.. but it no longer mentions it from what i can see on the pools site.
sorry to keep going on about this. i need to get to the bottom of it as i was about to start a project! :d
Good questions. I'd be interested to know the answers too.
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
thanks.. i think we need to delve deeper into this rabbit hole
every pool should be merge mining.. i'm guessing all the pro's are.. but the noob pools are not.. seems a little bit like "secretly stealing money" if they aren't declaring it?
by looking at the hash rates
Network
GH/sec
Bitcoin 84,150.3997
Devcoin 1,638.3046
Freicoin 2,337.9647
Feathercoi 0.5389
Ixcoin 1,434.6362
Litecoin 19.1917
Namecoin 18,248.9634
Ppcoin 2,894.8738
Terracoin 489.3262
i assume that the hash rate in merged mining would be the same (sorry if i'm wrong, just seems logical)..
example... if i merged mine bitcoin and namecoins at 1.5ghash, they both get 1.5ghash..
so.. atm.. bitparking is mining at 1180.66ghash... this is over 50% of the namecoin pool.. BUT.. it says ixcoin is only getting 1.5ghash.. so it can't be merge mined on bitparking?
please correct me.. as i must be wrong, as this does not add up
I made a mistake... 1180ghash is not 51%+ of 18248ghash.. i just bought my nmc back at a loss.. hate this game lol.. but the ixc (if bitparking are mining it) has 80% at a guess
Maybe bitparking even gives miners full options, such that if they choose not to receive a particular coin they also do not get given work that includes merged mining that particular coin?
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
from what i gathered.. if you don't supply a nmc address you don't get the coins.. i'm not sure if the shares are then distributed evenly to the people that do give an address or not.. not really bothered..
what i'm worried about is if it has more than 51% hashing power in the nmc chain.. and if this can be exploited somehow.. ixcoin.. i gave up on it now
Maybe bitparking even gives miners full options, such that if they choose not to receive a particular coin they also do not get given work that includes merged mining that particular coin?
-MarkM-
-MarkM-
Just focus on btc. Ltc might be ok but can't mine both let alone merge mining
Less people being given free namecoins they don't even want or care about might mean less namecoins being thrown away dirt cheap on exchanges, so it could turn out that slush miners no longer getting them could turn out nicely for people who do care enough to seek out pools that do still offer them.
(Last I heard Eligius offers namecoin and maybe even also devcoin along side bitcoin? Namecoin anyway at least?)
That question about the hash rates of e.g. Ixcoin vs a pool that merged mines it is intriguing, I expect doublec would be the chap to ask about that, maybe he had some troubles with Ixcoin over the timespan the hash rate is averaged over or something? Or maybe Ixcoin has an adaptive difficulty fix against chainhopping that the routine that comes up with the estimated hash rates is not taking into account?
-MarkM-
(Last I heard Eligius offers namecoin and maybe even also devcoin along side bitcoin? Namecoin anyway at least?)
That question about the hash rates of e.g. Ixcoin vs a pool that merged mines it is intriguing, I expect doublec would be the chap to ask about that, maybe he had some troubles with Ixcoin over the timespan the hash rate is averaged over or something? Or maybe Ixcoin has an adaptive difficulty fix against chainhopping that the routine that comes up with the estimated hash rates is not taking into account?
-MarkM-
Slush just got rid of merge mining nmc
Good questions. I'd be interested to know the answers too.
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
thanks.. i think we need to delve deeper into this rabbit hole
every pool should be merge mining.. i'm guessing all the pro's are.. but the noob pools are not.. seems a little bit like "secretly stealing money" if they aren't declaring it?
by looking at the hash rates
Network
GH/sec
Bitcoin 84,150.3997
Devcoin 1,638.3046
Freicoin 2,337.9647
Feathercoi 0.5389
Ixcoin 1,434.6362
Litecoin 19.1917
Namecoin 18,248.9634
Ppcoin 2,894.8738
Terracoin 489.3262
i assume that the hash rate in merged mining would be the same (sorry if i'm wrong, just seems logical)..
example... if i merged mine bitcoin and namecoins at 1.5ghash, they both get 1.5ghash..
so.. atm.. bitparking is mining at 1180.66ghash... this is over 50% of the namecoin pool.. BUT.. it says ixcoin is only getting 1.5ghash.. so it can't be merge mined on bitparking?
please correct me.. as i must be wrong, as this does not add up
Sorry I still don't understand why btc needs a patch?
Good questions. I'd be interested to know the answers too.
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
However, doublec (bitparking) is far from being the only entity in possession of the patch, that Galactic Milieu sourceforge files download dir I pointed at is mine, the namecoin author wrote the merged mining support so also has some form of it, it is in all the merged mined coins so can be derived back out of any of them and everyone who has them thus has it.
Bitcoin blocks mined while merged-mining secondary chains contain the chain identifiers of the chains merged, so anyone who knows a particular block was mined by a particular pool can check which chains the pool was merged-mining at the time.
(Tricky part conceivably being to identify whether any particular block was mined by a pool and if so which pool, if the pool didn't want anyone to figure out that pool mined it or if a miner or pool chose to "counterfeit" the stigmata by which a block's miner sometimes chooses to identify itself.)
-MarkM-
Mark thanks for your time...
i'm a little bit confused to merged mining .. i know of it (have been in the scene for a while but have just "returned").. but just curious about something:
when you say it is merged mined (IXcoin):
1. is it merged mined only by bitparking because they have this patch
or
2. it's merged mined by a few pools, but they don't give the merged coins to their clients.
or
3. it's merged mined by everyone mining bitcoin, but they don't know it.
if:
1. Won't they have over 51% on this pool?
or
2. These pools are making free coins at the expense (although not extra work) of the miners on the pool.
or
3. Where are these merged coins going.
very sorry to sound so "noobish"..
i'm a little bit confused to merged mining .. i know of it (have been in the scene for a while but have just "returned").. but just curious about something:
when you say it is merged mined (IXcoin):
1. is it merged mined only by bitparking because they have this patch
or
2. it's merged mined by a few pools, but they don't give the merged coins to their clients.
or
3. it's merged mined by everyone mining bitcoin, but they don't know it.
if:
1. Won't they have over 51% on this pool?
or
2. These pools are making free coins at the expense (although not extra work) of the miners on the pool.
or
3. Where are these merged coins going.
very sorry to sound so "noobish"..
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