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legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
What happened on wex.nz?

Wex.nz is formerly btc-e which was raided by US stazi and many bitcoins were stolen.

They re-opened as wex.nz with the promise that they would get everyone their coins over time. They created a token in place of your actual coins so that you could trade those with the promise that within 2 years (1 year from now) they would reimburse 100% of the coins tokens held.

Since they didn't have many of the actual coins they shut off withdrawals. But they allowed you to withdraw a few coins. One being namecoin. People with money on wex who want to get it off bought NMC so they could take it off the exchange and then sell it elsewhere.

This lead to a huge rise in price on wex of NMC and a huge crash in price everywhere else.
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What happened on wex.nz?
newbie
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Points about Ullbricht.

Ross Ulbricht is probably the first person who comes to mind when people discuss a free internet, though perhaps Aaron Swartz should be.

The truth is that any young person can be guided or misguided in any direction. Ross was a person fairly well raised, aside from being a major pot head. Instead of leaving him with his own morality, the U.S. government took extraordinary steps to encourage him to commit crimes.

Very few people have actually researched the facts of that case. If anybody is interested they should look through the titter accounts of Ulbricht and Swartz, both honest well raised young people who were deliberately criminalized by government 'law enforcers'. You have to wonder, would employees of the FBI and Homeland Security like people to lure their children into crime? It can be done to any young person. There is no reason for it.

https://freeross.org/case-timeline/

Here are the two U.S. citizens most people associate with a "free internet", one dead the other buried for two life terms.

https://twitter.com/aaronsw

https://mobile.twitter.com/dreadpiratesr?lang=en
sr. member
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is this project good? I'm so think about that  Huh
This project has been around for many years and probably everyone can personally analyze and draw a conclusion for themselves. The project has been tested for years, and how attractive it is for investment, everyone decides for himself. Wink
newbie
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I made a search engine for .bit websites. Hope everyone stop talking about price and try to explore .bit websites.

http://liddle.bit
http://liddle-bit.com (if you can't resolve .bit domains try this)

That is a cool idea even though I haven't tried it yet.

The point about cost vs use is important.

When crypto started, if you read posts from the early days, all of the people were tech people. The big barrier between coins and the public is the tech side, not the "new idea" side. Most people will try anything if its easy and won't even try something major if its hard.

Namecoin is an extremely important project, it has the potential to rapidly change a lot of political landscape as long as it is easy and secure.

Right now it really is not easy. A browser extension and search engine for Namecoin at this point are "developer tools", not a mainstream bridge.

When a person can seamlessly transition between the "govt" web and the Namecoin web with absolutely no effort, then it will be mainstream. I am not smart with tech, in fact well below even most non tech people, but I have some websites and will send an email to my hosting provider if somebody who knows something more than me can rephrase the writing so it is useful.
Here is an outline of an email, if somebody can make suggestions.

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Sirs,
I have hosted sites with you for a number of years and am trying to figure out if there is a way to use the Namecoin system to serve .bit websites on my sites the same way that www sites are served so that I could put links to both icann tld's and .bit sites, and as long as the browser is compatible both / either would be served.
Thanks etx
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Obviously I might be overlooking something basic about how .bit sites work, so if somebody who knows can rephrase the email I'll send it.

Once Namecoin has basic functionality as a domain system that is accessible and secure to anybody who can access the 'centralized' internet, other features could be added according to local needs. But first it really has to be accessible.

Google is by far the most popular search engine, and there is one difference between google and others that is probably why. The Google search page is completely simple. An empty page with a box to type in your search and maybe an image on the page. Look at the Yahoo page and it is like a page full of spaghetti.

Functionality and simplicity are all that is really needed to start.



I don't think I have ever seen Namecoin this cheap on the exchanges.

True. Relative to Bitcoin, the price of Namecoin is at its historical low.

Coinmarketcap does not use WEX anymore for determining the Namecoin-price. And the price at WEX ($) is still increasing, whereas the price on the other exchanges seems stable.

Maybe, every Namecoin, which is bought at WEX, is sold on some other exchange. Decreasing the supply and increasing the price at WEX, whereas on the other exchanges, the coins are immediately bought for the current price so that the non-WEX price is in an equilibrium.

It becomes really interesting, when WEX's Namecoin supply collapses (and with it maybe the whole exchange), since the supply there cannot be infinite (which is already reflected by the increasing price). That is, pay attention to WEX's Namecoin price excess. I think 8$ for Namecoin at WEX without at general crypto bull market, and WEX is history.


I had heard vaguely of btce being closed for criminal reasons, and knew that wex was the successor of them, but did not know the details. I just spent half an hour or so researching it and here is a summary. It is important because coins are sometimes portrayed as having a 'criminal' motive rather than being one tool that can be used by anybody including criminals.

BTCE apparently was simply an exchange that did not require registration. Whether it was actually run for the purpose of facilitating anything illegal is not clear, but the fact that it seems to have been associated with Russian spy types suggests that any crimes involved were probably on the political side rather than 'objectively criminal'.

The big issue with Alexander Vinnick, who was supposedly a top person in some conspiracy, appears to be his involvement with things relating to Robert Mueller's investigation. Mueller is investigating Trump's election, and so far negative things have surfaced on both sides. Some people on Trump's team were involved in secret business with Russians, and some FBI agents investigating that were fabricating evidence and involved in misconduct. Nevertheless, it is known for sure that 'somebody' hacked Hillary Clinton's emails, and it does look like Vinnick was probably connected to that.

So the bottom line there seems to be that a top person probably associated with BTCE was probably involved in doing something illegal in the U.S. The problem is that, on the basis of that semi political crime it looks like U.S. authorities tred to pile on charges, like saying he was responsible for $4 billion worth of money taken from Mt Gox being laundered. Many countries, including the U.S. and probably Russia and China and any others, allow a lot of fictional charges to be added when a person is involved in one crime. Whether Vinnick was actually involved in anything beyond hacking Hillary's emails and being part of a Russian hacking group is not clear. Was he actually involved in any way with a $4 billion Mt Gox theft? Doubtful.

Does the U.S. also have people who hack into other country's secrets, dump emails etc, harass enemies etc? Who knows. Maybe Russia is the only country that does that. But more likely every country has its groups of young tech types who are too smart for the school or the military so they engage in mischief under the umbrella of spy agencies.

Bottom line, I am not able to find any actual criminal history, aside from operating an exchange without verification, associated with wex or btce. Even though it seems to be a huge criminal issue, the core of it seems to do with Mueller's investigation of spooks in Russia vs spooks in the U.S.

If somebody knows of some actual crime associated with wex or btce they should mention it or post a link, but it seems to be mostly 'crime fiction', along the lines of Ross Ullbricht's arrest. Many people believed and still believe that Ullbricht was a violent gangster promoting various crimes. In fact he was surrounded from the start by government agents who used all of their resources to coax him into appearing to commit crimes, then they fabricated evidence, stole thousands of bicoin from him and, finally, sentenced him to two life terms. He was widely known in his circle as a nonviolent libertarian, a pacifist.

Nobody should support crime, things that harm others. Some people might oppose a decentralized internet on the grounds that there must be 'government control' of the web. Even many supposed 'free speech' types try to maintain government control of things like the internet. If there is an 'unregulated' internet will everybody suddenly start commiting crimes? If a person is opposed to something, whether an ideology or something as mundane as drug selling, isn't it better to have what you are opposed to be visible? If somebody uses a decentralized internet to sell drugs then you can post on their site that you don't like drugs, you can even argue about it, maybe convince some drug user. Last year more than 50,000 Americans died of drug overdoses. These are mostly young people secretively buying synthetic opiates. What would happen if they were able to buy real opium online? About zero people die per year from smoking opium, so why not let people make 'illegal' opium websites. And if you have some ideology that is threatened by free speech, if you think a free internet would threaten your beliefs, then maybe it would be better to allow opponents to make antigovernment websites so your beliefs can be tested against nature. In the United States there is, in some places, the belief that "intellectual property" is a criminal matter. That is the big roadblock to a decentralized internet in the U.S. Other countries may have other reasons for their leaders to feel threatened by a decentralized internet.
newbie
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is this project good? I'm so think about that  Huh
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Namecoin's Daniel Kraft will be a speaker at Malta Blockchain Summit 2018 https://www.namecoin.org/2018/10/29/malta-blockchain-summit-2018.html
Namecoin’s Chief Scientist Daniel Kraft will be a speaker at Malta Blockchain Summit 2018, October 31 - November 3. Daniel is on the “Permissioned vs Permissionless Blockchains” panel at 9:30-9:50 on November 2.
sr. member
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I was on legacy version (0.3.8 )

here the tx id 3557f48b0e7611fd4049af8d547c0bd90a3e98017f9340939215ba28d121ae1e

There were some changes (related to transaction signatures) that may lead to transactions created by the old version to be seen as non-standard and not relayed/mined by new versions.  Presumably that's the case here.

I don't see the transaction on my node, so I can't see the details about it.  If you want me or someone else to debug this further, try "namecoin-cli getrawtransaction 3557f48b0e7611fd4049af8d547c0bd90a3e98017f9340939215ba28d121ae1e" and send the full hex.

To fix this, I think the best way is to upgrade to a new version (perhaps you already did since you said "I was") and just try to redo the name update.  This will double spend the name coin and just invalidate the previous transaction.

Thanks a lot for the explaination. I'm gonna rescan and double spend, it was token TX only.

legendary
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I was on legacy version (0.3.8 )

here the tx id 3557f48b0e7611fd4049af8d547c0bd90a3e98017f9340939215ba28d121ae1e

There were some changes (related to transaction signatures) that may lead to transactions created by the old version to be seen as non-standard and not relayed/mined by new versions.  Presumably that's the case here.

I don't see the transaction on my node, so I can't see the details about it.  If you want me or someone else to debug this further, try "namecoin-cli getrawtransaction 3557f48b0e7611fd4049af8d547c0bd90a3e98017f9340939215ba28d121ae1e" and send the full hex.

To fix this, I think the best way is to upgrade to a new version (perhaps you already did since you said "I was") and just try to redo the name update.  This will double spend the name coin and just invalidate the previous transaction.
legendary
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Viva Ut Vivas
I made a search engine for .bit websites. Hope everyone stop talking about price and try to explore .bit websites.

http://liddle.bit
http://liddle-bit.com (if you can't resolve .bit domains try this)

Awesome. Thank you for actually doing work on Namecoin.

Very cool. I added the plugin to my chrome browser and finally got to my first .bit website (http://nayuki.bit).

Chrome plugin:
https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/dotbitme-bit-web-surfer/kkjfoinnbmgmjgmiakbbhggdmccbjhga?hl=en


As for the price on WEX...I had 21k NMC on there which they were likely using to allow withdrawals in NMC. I finally got my account back and took 14k NMC off of there so their supply went down quite a bit. I still bave 7k NMEC which is losing value (also likely due to more limited supply). In theory they are supposed to convert NMEC to NMC next year at full value.
sr. member
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I have a question regarding what's happening in the namecoin mempool.

I have a TX with good fees, and lock in the mempool for 2 days now.

I see in the mempool lot of pending TX, and lot of emply blocks mined.

What's going on ? Is the merge mining of big pool not including TX ?

What can we do to fix this ?

Can you perhaps share your txid, so I or someone else can check the transaction?  Also, what version of Namecoin are you using?  I've never had any issues getting transactions mined (especially not recently).

Thanks,

I was on legacy version (0.3.8 )

here the tx id 3557f48b0e7611fd4049af8d547c0bd90a3e98017f9340939215ba28d121ae1e
legendary
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I have a question regarding what's happening in the namecoin mempool.

I have a TX with good fees, and lock in the mempool for 2 days now.

I see in the mempool lot of pending TX, and lot of emply blocks mined.

What's going on ? Is the merge mining of big pool not including TX ?

What can we do to fix this ?

Can you perhaps share your txid, so I or someone else can check the transaction?  Also, what version of Namecoin are you using?  I've never had any issues getting transactions mined (especially not recently).
sr. member
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I have a question regarding what's happening in the namecoin mempool.

I have a TX with good fees, and lock in the mempool for 2 days now.

I see in the mempool lot of pending TX, and lot of emply blocks mined.

What's going on ? Is the merge mining of big pool not including TX ?

What can we do to fix this ?

Thanks for futur answer. Smiley

Best,
newbie
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I made a search engine for .bit websites. Hope everyone stop talking about price and try to explore .bit websites.

http://liddle.bit
http://liddle-bit.com (if you can't resolve .bit domains try this)
legendary
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I don't think I have ever seen Namecoin this cheap on the exchanges.

True. Relative to Bitcoin, the price of Namecoin is at its historical low.

Coinmarketcap does not use WEX anymore for determining the Namecoin-price. And the price at WEX ($) is still increasing, whereas the price on the other exchanges seems stable.

Maybe, every Namecoin, which is bought at WEX, is sold on some other exchange. Decreasing the supply and increasing the price at WEX, whereas on the other exchanges, the coins are immediately bought for the current price so that the non-WEX price is in an equilibrium.

It becomes really interesting, when WEX's Namecoin supply collapses (and with it maybe the whole exchange), since the supply there cannot be infinite (which is already reflected by the increasing price). That is, pay attention to WEX's Namecoin price excess. I think 8$ for Namecoin at WEX without at general crypto bull market, and WEX is history.


I think the users on WEX only have the option to cash out of the exchange using some alts so it probably has a bearning on the price although if price for namecoin goes too far up there I can't see too many willing to take such a large hit by selling at the lower prices the other exchanges are offering unless they are buying and simply taking them off the exchange and holding them on a wallet waiting for a recovery or until they can at least get the price they paid for them on WEX but on an exchange without cashing out issues at some later stage if price recovers a bit and liquidity allows it.

On another note I found an old but interesting tweet mentioning namecoin.It has some links posted on it too.

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/78906603948093440
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I don't think I have ever seen Namecoin this cheap on the exchanges.

True. Relative to Bitcoin, the price of Namecoin is at its historical low.

Coinmarketcap does not use WEX anymore for determining the Namecoin-price. And the price at WEX ($) is still increasing, whereas the price on the other exchanges seems stable.

Maybe, every Namecoin, which is bought at WEX, is sold on some other exchange. Decreasing the supply and increasing the price at WEX, whereas on the other exchanges, the coins are immediately bought for the current price so that the non-WEX price is in an equilibrium.

It becomes really interesting, when WEX's Namecoin supply collapses (and with it maybe the whole exchange), since the supply there cannot be infinite (which is already reflected by the increasing price). That is, pay attention to WEX's Namecoin price excess. I think 8$ for Namecoin at WEX without at general crypto bull market, and WEX is history.
legendary
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I don't think I have ever seen Namecoin this cheap on the exchanges.
sr. member
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Namecoin is live on XBTS DEX Exchange!


    
Welcome to Bitshares!

legendary
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Thanks trantute2 for compiling the news! That looks really good, I hope the efforts of the coders can bring us to a solution with really good usability "for the masses". In this case, I guess Namecoin is seriously undervalued Wink
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