Topic: [ANNOUNCE] New alternate cryptocurrency - Geist Geld - page 21. (Read 74212 times)

Meh - ok ignore that - found the config in the Config+Blockchain.zip ...

Hmm so what is the actual full hacked bitcoin.conf that actually makes this work?
(or in my case gg.conf)

As usual I'll never trust someone else's executable, so I grabbed the git and then modified all the 'bitcoin' words in there to 'gg'
(... slack ... lazy ... why didn't you change that in the first place? Or should I be looking closely at the code that access the .bitcoin directory???)

... and added my 'usual' modifications that work on all the other chains ...

... and then even added these changes:
ntp=1
testnet=1
enablefullretargetperiod=1

and I still get a 99 block chain that matches the first 99 block of bitcoin ...

Any hints?

I'll sleep on it!
LOL Now I see its an eye! I need to learn photoshop so this is actually good training for me.
Will post a new version tomorrow according to your requests!
(If you like it you can double the bounty  )

Nifty, though I already sent you the bigger one.

I liked the first one color scheme more, and TBH the thing in the center is supposed to be the pupil so perhaps you could filter it differently ? (Am I being to nitpicky for 500 geists lol ? )

Made this one from the small icon in the scriptfolder.
Do you like the darker color?

Well, at some point there will be a semi-final GUI (probably waaay after signing is implemented), though Crutches makes for a bearable GUI replacement (and versatile in terms of easily implementing a "tab+batch" for the more unwieldy or just exotic functions, see Escrow tabs, for example)

I will make a Crutches for Namecoin after the whole "upcoming storm" thing resolves one way or another.

It would be nice to a official client with GUI. I may want this into the project I'm developing.

It seems to be due to many peers not bothering to do an ntp=1, and/or you managing to find yourself a "weird" ntp server for that particular request.

OKAY, ONCE AGAIN, EVERYBODY PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO TURN ON NTP

ntp=1

must be in the config.

Did a restart of geistd and now the error is gone. I have the NTP=1 option set. I have no clue whats wrong here..

Okay, this is itchy...

I can give it a try! Send the png pls?

Btw, my client says this on getinfo
 "errors" : "Warning: A majority of peers disagree with NTP time. Something is off here!"

And geistd shows a lot of ProcessBlock: ORPHAN BLOCK, prev=00000000f644a13bf23c

The most horribly evil thing I could do without ruining Geist (and thus the Superfund, and the Laundry which I so dearly hope to create) is to sell off enough Geist to buy meself a keg of beer and hire a hooker (and get "investigated" for "suspicious buying patterns" by the honorible police of my glorible  president )

BTW, assuming Geist doesn't choke on blocks or something equally terrible, in less then a year  Superfund (the entire thing, both laundry and the bounty and the "small things") won't look that Super (it will still be somewhat  impressive, but given the upper bound for total number of Geists in the hundreds of billions and demonstrated capacity for sustained operation, not that zomghuge as it might seem now).

  I am thus mildly concerned that I have, in fact, premined too little a sum to get a decent laundry going


Hm, if you "emboss" the "sorta-official Geistgeld logo" on it (You can see the small version in the background of windows bundle, file itself is in the Data/scripts folder of the bundle, but I can send a large-ish PNG if needed), I will part with about 500 Geists

Sorry, I just am somewhat less-than-rationally attached to the logo I've cobbled together from stuff and recycled stuff while waiting for the first build to compile ^__^

Got a little creative and made this!
Applying for artwork bounty lol

Difference between "thanks for attacking" and "thanks for fixing it up"

We can all keep track of the 7,000,000 coins and I guess that Lolcust knows his coin is history if he rips us off.

I give him and his coin a chance. It's experimental and he did something with advice from ArtForz and other people.
So he is not another "CH", in my opinion.

Do we all agree to give GeistGeld a chance, at least?

As soon as Geist gets Contract code, I will seek out a way to manage the bounty + faucet (-beer +vodka + hookers +cigar ) part via an open, publicly accountable decentralized management system it presents.

Managing the Laundry Buffer in such a manner seems... problematic (and I am attached to the idea of starting a "squeaky clean laundry that can help cleaning any coins as long as they can be converted to Geist and Back")


Um, print out the part of the blockchain that "contains" the Superfund and wrap it around my genitals, screaming "behold the mighty lolopenis!!!" ?

What exactly can you do with 4-7 mil of any neo-coin except use them as a buffer in a laundry-like system or veeeryyyy slooooowwwwlllyyyyyy spend them (and again, the wisest spending is that on project itself, since it makes the remaining coins increase in functionality and perceived value) ?

There is no chance in hell of selling-off even a fraction of that in one go, and if you have to sell them sloooowwwwwlllllyyyyy (veeeeryyyyy) you may as well start slowly spending them to convince people to contribute useful code (increasing the value of whatever remains and benefiting the community at large due to the whole open-source thingie )


Depends on whether your jurisdiction recognizes "digital coinsis" as money.

Mine would beat me to the death for having this conversation, so I may as well start "laundering" abstract mathematical constructs.


Due to the size of Superfund, it has virtually no other use.


Errrr... now I lost ya.

Where did I "promote" an "attack" on Geist ?  


I do contemplate investing some USD into it, but there aren't much USD I can throw at a coin without facing Dire Secondary Consequences

I also hope that some people will just implement stuff into Geist because they've got this cool idea nobody (especially not Lolcust) ever thought about, but yes, I do intend to post large bounties on Geist features (stuff such as thin clients and blockchain optimizations that later could be ported to other chains) in hopes that some devs will consider it worth a stab.

Um, so far, this approach has not even been tested, let alone demonstrated.

Besides, I think that somewhere later on I said I was "giving away everything except the Laundry and Bounty fund".

Not so much "wouldn't mine" (everyone and his dog can plainly see that the only use millions of Geists could have is 1) Binding them in a huge laundry 2) slowly, very slowly spending them, with a solid chunk being spent on the project itself (so that the utility, and thus price, of the remaining Geists would rise) but "would start a 10 page long discussion about how to best manage the Fund and how large a buffer does Lolcust Laundry need to server an order of laundering 500 000 bitcoins through GeistGeld instead of addressing technical issues which are of far greater importance.

People mined IxCoin after all, and I don't remember ixCoin dude setting up a Really Huge laundry (or even intending to do so), or even bothering to pre-mine his rations in a manner that places minimum burden on the chain, thus I don't expect people to run away screaming because of Fund.

I do expect it to be a potent flame vector, though.

I wasn't explicitly hiding it though - in fact, relevant commands can be found in the config in plaintext, and given how every-single-coin (except namecoin maybe?) premined, I honestly did not expect people to even entertain but a single doubt that I did premine.

I admit I am mildly avoidant of the issue due to it being hotbutton for a lot of folks, though, to be honest, Ixcoin did that in a much less elegant and much more burdening way, with far less innovation and net benefit to community (I'm not counting the "I made 500 bucks on Ixcoin, lol" kind of benefit), and it's not like it's dead as a result or something


I -hope- to have the laundry running in 2-3 month, but so far I'm on the lookout for devs (especially ones who want a Geist bounty)

So to be fair, it would be best if you compared bounty+faucet+small stuff fund of approx 2+ mil with the net performance, not including the 4 mils I intend to "forever bind" in a Laundry.


That would be an awesome thing to do, but it would require a system of public accountability not yet in place (But I do intend to take a stab at placing a bounty on Bitcoin Contracts implementation for Geist, though I somewhat doubt there will be takers)

It also raises issues of how does this thing manage the Lolcust Laundry which, I must admit, is an idea I am very attached to (because I always dreamed to launder large sums of moneys, lol  )

Currently, accountability is trivially managed by watching blockchain as to whether I am trying to sell off a large chunk of superfund, trivially done as soon as geist gets an online explorer.

A complex structure with 10 people would be far harder to monitor, and in the end due to ephemeral nature of all cryptocurrency, just as questionable in terms of accountability.

Also, consider this:
Unless Geist explodes in popularity to Tamagochiesque proportions, there is no chance in hell of ever selling off even 1 000 000 geists in "a chunk"

The whole point of Superfund was that the biggest part will end up "bound" forever while a smaller part will slowly trickle to people willing to contribute time and effort to bettering Geist (and other chains, since everything is gonna be open-source, even the Laundry code, *yes bitcoin laundry, I am looking at you * )
 

+1 Agreed. Lolcust needs to setup a circle of trust with community members to hold those 7,000,000 coins in a decentralized manner.

I trust him but what's to say that he gets pissed off like coinhunter and decides to do something rash?

So instead of being open and telling people about your 7 mil pre-mined coins, you expect people to deduce that you mined some coins by the fact that you said "bounty" and using "100% squeaky clean" coins. Well, bounty coins can be mined after the coin has been published. And 100% squeaky clean coins can be mined afterwards for your laundry also. It doesn't necessarily mean you had to pre-mine them. But that's besides the point. You purposely did not mention that you pre-mined 7 million coins because you knew people would not mine your coins if you did that. Tell me that's not true.

I don't doubt that you have good intentions with those 7 mil pre-mined coins. But hiding information is not a good way to go about it and it definitely hurt the trust people have in you and your coins now.