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Topic: [ANNOUNCE] SolidCoin - new and improved block chain. Secure from pools - page 28. (Read 85500 times)

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I like Bitcoin, Monero and BCash
could there be an additional variable for the day average (or similar) if that's not too much to ask?
I've added two variables, the high and low price in the last 24 hours. You could maybe find a midpoint between these as an average. There is an 'average' price in the ticker which is a weighted average over the last 24 hours but it has an intermittent bug which can make this lower than the low price for the day. I haven't included this since that'll cause problems with your pricing. When I've fixed that bug I'll add it and let you know.

Thanks hun.

I'll try to work out what to do with them as soon as I can get my head around it.
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Hi,

I just started mining solidcoin last night.  Very excited.

I tweeted about the 5 reasons article hoping for a bounty!  

http://twitter.com/#!/honolululu

Thanks for the chance.
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I like Bitcoin, Monero and BCash
and it appears by the network graphs that more and more miners are long SolidCoins.

Hopefully not too many too quickly, otherwise the entire BTC network will crash and SC will get the blame... Smiley


That's right, it's really important that both currencies thrive side by side. We need a good exchange medium outside of $ / £ / €
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and it appears by the network graphs that more and more miners are long SolidCoins.

Hopefully not too many too quickly, otherwise the entire BTC network will crash and SC will get the blame... Smiley

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Bounties page has been updated with 40 new promotion bounties. The other ones are all used up now (3 still being confirmed but they are taken).

http://solidcoin.info/bounties.php

The new bounty is "First 40 to post about the "5 reasons to switch to SolidCoin" article on their blog/forum/twitter*" , value 25 SC .
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Edit: and at current difficulty (16,819), the exchange rate has to fall below .009 before mining SolidCoins is less profitable than Bitcoins.

At difficulty 16819, the parity would be 0.01455053 right?
(16819 / 32) / (1806098 / 50)

You are correct. I forgot about the 32 coins  Tongue  It briefly dipped below parity earlier today. Still, as someone elsewhere said, 'I do not mine for what the price of coins are today, I mine for what they will be in the future'. All miners are inherently long on whatever coins they are mining, and it appears by the network graphs that more and more miners are long SolidCoins.
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CoinHunter, I am accepting SolidCoins on my web store: www.kusari.pl - there is logo in menu on left and description and link in "Jak zamowic" (how tu buy) page. If Bounties are still actual (First 9 "Other" sites to accept SolidCoin category), please send coins to my donating address: sZVhpXua2CRex5KodiZnMF5KaGT3K4LQvA. Thanks Smiley
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Edit: and at current difficulty (16,819), the exchange rate has to fall below .009 before mining SolidCoins is less profitable than Bitcoins.

At difficulty 16819, the parity would be 0.01455053 right?
(16819 / 32) / (1806098 / 50)
legendary
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could there be an additional variable for the day average (or similar) if that's not too much to ask?
I've added two variables, the high and low price in the last 24 hours. You could maybe find a midpoint between these as an average. There is an 'average' price in the ticker which is a weighted average over the last 24 hours but it has an intermittent bug which can make this lower than the low price for the day. I haven't included this since that'll cause problems with your pricing. When I've fixed that bug I'll add it and let you know.
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I like Bitcoin, Monero and BCash
I think that will be perfect. I'll try it out as soon as I get back to my desk.
Just be careful that you don't use the value of those variables in the page sent to the server for the actual order that is done. They can be manipulated by the user using firebug, web console, or some other web development tool. You should use them for showing the user the approximate price, and the final price should be retrieved by the server itself, not sent from the page. Hope that makes sense, and apologies if I'm telling you something you already are aware of.

That's really important info ... Thanks!

I'll make sure I show it's an approximate price. I've already got it working on that page. Your method was SO easy in comparison to what I had before.

There is one possible request   Wink

could there be an additional variable for the day average (or similar) if that's not too much to ask?

I can imagine the price could seasaw a bit too much over the course of the 10 minutes it takes someone to make a decision to join. It may be that I wouldn't use such a variable but I was just thinking ...  Embarrassed

Even if you can't do that what you've given me is just wonderful.

Thank you.
legendary
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But how can I recovery it? Can anyone tell me plz Cheesy
By emailing the contact email in the 'whois' of the domain, or asking 'doublec' on freenode irc, or PMing me here. Preferably in that order.
newbie
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May I ask a dumb question plz. I deposit my SC to an expired (used) address of scexchange.bitparking.com. I read this: "Each address can only receive once. If you want to deposit more, click the button again to get a new address. Each address will accept deposits for 96 hours from the time of creation. There is a 25% fee to recover lost funds".

But how can I recovery it? Can anyone tell me plz Cheesy
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I think there is still a growing trend amongst miners to shift to SC, despite momentary fluctuations by the speculators. Even at current prices it is still far more profitable to mine SC. And a relatively minor correction in price is to be expected. 5 days ago it was trading at .0011, now it is trading at 1800% higher. That wasn't a crash, it was a correction, and there are far more Ghash being thrown at SC than IXcoin and I0coin combined ever had. Just b/c someone with a few thousand coins does not have the intestinal fortitude necessary to see things through does not mean the whole market is crashing.

Miners are voting with their Ghashes, perhaps they like this fork with its twice daily difficulty adjustments Wink

Edit: and at current difficulty (16,819), the exchange rate has to fall below .009 before mining SolidCoins is less profitable than Bitcoins.

Re-edit: parity is actually at 0.01455053 (thx Navigator)
legendary
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I think that will be perfect. I'll try it out as soon as I get back to my desk.
Just be careful that you don't use the value of those variables in the page sent to the server for the actual order that is done. They can be manipulated by the user using firebug, web console, or some other web development tool. You should use them for showing the user the approximate price, and the final price should be retrieved by the server itself, not sent from the page. Hope that makes sense, and apologies if I'm telling you something you already are aware of.
legendary
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Hello!
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I'm trying to do this on http://lorna-morgan.com/big-nude-boobs/join/join.html but to be honest it's foxing me and everyone I ask. The script is mostly around the "solidcoin accepted here" button, I've commented most of it out now and just using "var = sc_rate = xx". That's gotta be done by hand and its only really getting looked at once a day (or I'd go mad).
I've just added an new API that might makes things easier. There's now a URL that will output two javascript variable definitions containing the current buy and sell prices: http://scexchange.bitparking.com:8080/api/scprices

You can include that with a script element in your HTML page and it should define the variables which you can use later:

Code:

...
alert(solidcoin_sellprice);

Let me know how that goes or if you want anything changed.

I think that will be perfect. I'll try it out as soon as I get back to my desk.

Wheeeee!
sd
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You still have to wait the same time to have the same confidence that your transaction will not be reversed.

Nope this isnt true, if you look at teh double spend vulnerability study, what matters is how many blocks he falls behind, NOT TIME. Or you are going to have to prove this claim to me, as all the studies show it becomes increasingly harder to double spend for each block you fall behind, NOT FOR EACH MINUTE.

This point needs analysis not argument.

The point of confirmations is not to prevent double spends, it's to prevent transactions getting canceled by replacing the block the transaction was in with a longer one. My point is that it would be far faster to carry out a 51% attack when blocks are generated far faster. The difference in the block propagation time to block generation time ratio in SolidCoin might also have some interesting side effects, none of which will be good.

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2. Security - Anyone who runs a decent sized BTC pool could subvert his hashing power to perform double spends on SolidCoin right now as the barrier to a 51% attack is far lower than bitcoin.


um 51% is still 51%. I get it would take less equipment but you also get the double spend attack? It's pretty damn limited, and a rogue pool op, would probably find more luck and less risk, just diverting found blocks into a different wallet, and his users would just think the pool was a but unlucky that day. This is also a weakness with bitcoin, and as such, meaningless. But once again the faster block speeds makes it harder, not easier as his time frame to exploit decreases. It is also mainly a non issue, people wait less confirmations for small transactions, more for larger.

I don't want to pull off a double spend attack. I want to wipe out the SolidCoin to BTC exchanges by depositing SolidCoins to them, cashing out BTC, then revoking the SolidCoin transaction I paid with. I could do this with greater than about 60% of the hash power of the network when the network is at it's lowest hash power. So I could wait until most people bail out after difficulty adjusts upwards and point all my GPUs at SolidCoin. The amount of hash power needed for this attack would be tiny because I can attack the network when it's weakest and the profits would be all BTC held in the SolidCoin to BTC exchanges.

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3. We make it easy - You don't even have a client that will run on Debian based Linux.

source is there, so the problem is pebcak. You also dont really need a client, most pools will let you send to an exchange, and you can also create your own keys and just forget having a client. You also claim he made practically no changes to the btc code, and yet claim solidcoin sucks cause it doesnt work on debian.. well can you not get bitcoin to work on debian? sounds like you can, so ONE CLAIM OR THE OTHER HAS TO BE WRONG. I mean you say it is the same client as btc with miner changes and then bitch you cant make it work.

Sure the source is there, but that's not making it easy now is it? Do you really expect every end user of a currency to compile the source involved?

Your second point is invalid as it only takes one very small change to break things. A decent programmer can break a hell of a lot with a single character.

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5. A plan for the future - Attacking the bitcoin developers, developers who have released stable clients for all platforms seems low.

when is the last time you saw an update for the client? Hows that encrypted wallet coming?

The BitCoin client still lacks an encrypted wallet. I agree it really needs one as there are programs stealing bitcoin's wallet.dat right now. However the client they have provided appears stable for all major operating systems unlike the SolidCoin client.

Seriously nothing but garbage here. I have a feeling it is someone upset BTC went so far down, or someone who made bad trades for SC. At the very very least, it is someone who did a piss poor job of proving his point.

You failed to understand my points or deliberately ignored them. That's not the same as them being wrong. I've never mined or traded for SolidCoin.

legendary
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I'm trying to do this on http://lorna-morgan.com/big-nude-boobs/join/join.html but to be honest it's foxing me and everyone I ask. The script is mostly around the "solidcoin accepted here" button, I've commented most of it out now and just using "var = sc_rate = xx". That's gotta be done by hand and its only really getting looked at once a day (or I'd go mad).
The problem is that you're basically doing a cross site request which isn't supported in browsers. Some of the newer browsers support a protocol called CORS and will let you do it if I configure my server to allow it. The details are here. Let me know if you want to try that and I'll enable it.

Another option is to retrieve the ticker URL from your server, and make a request from your page to your server to get the data. This is usually the most reliable method.

I've just added an new API that might makes things easier. There's now a URL that will output two javascript variable definitions containing the current buy and sell prices: http://scexchange.bitparking.com:8080/api/scprices

You can include that with a script element in your HTML page and it should define the variables which you can use later:

Code:

...
alert(solidcoin_sellprice);

Let me know how that goes or if you want anything changed.
newbie
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Is it worth solo mining right now?  I currently have about 2 Ghash going for me. 
member
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I like Bitcoin, Monero and BCash
although it does appear to be recovering.. maybe I should have bought back in again for the dead cat bounce hm.. would love to see what the graph looks like tomorrow...
That red message about the buy and sell order book being down has come up again.
The message comes up when load is high, the order book is moved from the main page. Lots of bots scrape it instead of using the API for some reason. http://www.solidcoins.info has a good order book pulling from the api.

@doublec I'm trying to pull your api price data from http://scexchange.bitparking.com:8080/api/ticker

I'm trying to do this on http://lorna-morgan.com/big-nude-boobs/join/join.html but to be honest it's foxing me and everyone I ask. The script is mostly around the "solidcoin accepted here" button, I've commented most of it out now and just using "var = sc_rate = xx". That's gotta be done by hand and its only really getting looked at once a day (or I'd go mad).

any ideas from a "proper" programmer?  Kiss
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