[ANNOUNCE] Tenebrix, a CPU-friendly, GPU-hostile cryptocurrency - page 30.

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Quote from: Splirow on September 29, 2011, 11:26:46 PM

How do mine Tenebrix??? SIMPLIFIED please.
On win7.

Download windows portable bundle

Start TenebrixPortable

Find the LOCALHOST_TBX_MINE file

Either start it right away to start mining @ 2 threads or edit it with notepads, changing the (pretty self-explanatory) value --threads from <2> to

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How do mine Tenebrix??? SIMPLIFIED please.
On win7.

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Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 10:47:27 PM

Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 10:25:34 PM

I've built a mac os binary. It works for me. I can upload it somewhere if you want. Where's a good place to upload binary files?

Well, here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?po39vc1x87tb3br

I guess you just have to trust that I didn't put any malware in it.

How do I use it?

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Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 10:25:34 PM

I've built a mac os binary. It works for me. I can upload it somewhere if you want. Where's a good place to upload binary files?

Well, here it is: http://www.mediafire.com/?po39vc1x87tb3br

I guess you just have to trust that I didn't put any malware in it.

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I've built a mac os binary. It works for me. I can upload it somewhere if you want. Where's a good place to upload binary files?

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Well, if multicoin-qt builds on osx so should tbx, so "only" a matter of finding someone willing, able and trustworthy to build a binary...

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thanks ART! Do you know if any mac version will come out?

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0.015625 currently, looks like next diff will be 0.0625.

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Also, what is the current difficulty?

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Lolcust,

any mac versions?

Would help a lot!

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I really took me a long long time to mine that Tenebrix of yours Sad

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Quote from: Bitcoin Oz on September 29, 2011, 08:19:19 PM

I still dont see any solution to the 51% attacks. A cpu currency will be more vulnerable Id imagine.

A system with less hashpower centralization is more vulnerable to 51 attack ?

Having said that I am quite looking forward to solutions to 51% problem Wink

, well those solutions that do not involve lic-mining (people are being mildly upset with my fun-d, imagine what they would say if I left meself with ability to single-handedly grant and take away ability to mine Roll Eyes

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Wat

I still dont see any solution to the 51% attacks. A cpu currency will be more vulnerable Id imagine.

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How does the laundry help any? If I am trying to track down a coin trail, isn't it obvious when the laundry is used, so I just go looking for a transaction going into the laundry that matches one coming out (same amount and time), and pick up the trail there?

time and size-randomized payouts trump correlation attacks, even bitcoinlaundry does them IIRC

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Quote from: TiagoTiago on September 29, 2011, 04:15:33 PM

Would it have been possible to implement the laundry mechanism in such a way that it would be part of the system and not run by any single individual or group?

Now that would be totally awesome, but so far I am not aware of any remotely workable proposals (that is, proposals that do not involve things like Total Trust between the agents participating in laundry)

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Firstbits.com/1fg4i :)

Would it have been possible to implement the laundry mechanism in such a way that it would be part of the system and not run by any single individual or group?

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Well, per most recent chat consensus, 2 mils go to faucet(s?), 1.5 mils is distributed as development and promotion budget among Trusted Directors (like Doublec maybe Gavin, maybe Art, maybe some other decent dudes - will make a separate thread for that) and what is left is generously left to me for Our Great Big TBX "coin history removal" service aka laundry.

So no, I will not singlehandendly manage 3 year worth of TBXez.

But like I promised michal, I'll make a fairbrix for all those interested

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Quote from: ArtForz on September 29, 2011, 02:06:12 PM

Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 12:32:46 PM

Quote from: ArtForz on September 29, 2011, 12:27:39 PM

Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 12:17:25 PM

How much harder is mining Tenebrix versus mining Bitcoin? By my calculation, I should get about 1000 as many TBX than I'm getting right now given my hashrate and the current difficulty. ArtForz, can you comment?

Very roughly a factor of 1000.
PhenomII hexcore here gets ~20Mh/s for BTC, ~20kh/s TBX.

Ok, but is the same factor applied to the expected time to find a block?
Let say the difficulty is 0.015625 and you are mining at 1 kh/s, how long does it take to find a block on average? In other words, how many hashes do you need to find a block on average?

Nope, difficulty works as in bitcoin, so at 20kH/s and difficulty 0.015625 you'd expect to find a block every 2^32 * 0.015625 / 20000 seconds on average (= ~56 minutes).

but the average CPU gets you about 1-1.5 kh/s so it takes a loooong time.
Now, to put it all in perspective, there is 7.7 mill coins premined... and suddenly you realize, how fucked up this whole ideas is.
Damn, I was hoping for something that lasts, but this is as fucked up as all the other *coins.
Thanx for trying. Sorry to see, how stupidity and greed just killed another coin.

Lets wait for T0brix

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Quote from: ArtForz on September 29, 2011, 02:06:12 PM

Nope, difficulty works as in bitcoin, so at 20kH/s and difficulty 0.015625 you'd expect to find a block every 2^32 * 0.015625 / 20000 seconds on average (= ~56 minutes).

Yup, you're right. I just miscalculated.

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Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 12:32:46 PM

Quote from: ArtForz on September 29, 2011, 12:27:39 PM

Quote from: coblee on September 29, 2011, 12:17:25 PM

How much harder is mining Tenebrix versus mining Bitcoin? By my calculation, I should get about 1000 as many TBX than I'm getting right now given my hashrate and the current difficulty. ArtForz, can you comment?

Very roughly a factor of 1000.
PhenomII hexcore here gets ~20Mh/s for BTC, ~20kh/s TBX.

Ok, but is the same factor applied to the expected time to find a block?
Let say the difficulty is 0.015625 and you are mining at 1 kh/s, how long does it take to find a block on average? In other words, how many hashes do you need to find a block on average?

Nope, difficulty works as in bitcoin, so at 20kH/s and difficulty 0.015625 you'd expect to find a block every 2^32 * 0.015625 / 20000 seconds on average (= ~56 minutes).

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