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Topic: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1] - page 7. (Read 155339 times)

legendary
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Bitcoin Legal Tender Countries: 2 of 206
hero member
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Huh, apparently it is.

These site names get progressively worse.
hero member
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I'm not gonna click whatever that is. Post a real URL.  Angry
puu.sh one of many instant screenshot post service...
legendary
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I'm not gonna click whatever that is. Post a real URL.  Angry

Is a real URL. (paranoid mode on)
hero member
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Looks like just a picture

Code:
[pentarh@pentbook ~]$ HEAD http://puu.sh/1OQYs
200 OK
Cache-Control: public, max-age=43200
Connection: close
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 xxxx GMT
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Server: cloudflare-nginx
Content-Length: 84438
Content-Type: image/jpeg
Expires: Fri, 18 Jan 2013 xxx GMT
Last-Modified: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 xxx GMT
CF-Cache-Status: HIT
CF-RAY: xxx
Client-Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 xxx GMT
Client-Peer: 108.162.197.128:80
Client-Response-Num: 1
Content-Disposition: inline; filename="ss (2013-01-18 at 12.29.15).jpg"
hero member
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I'm not gonna click whatever that is. Post a real URL.  Angry
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sr. member
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3 days left, not even a picture
hero member
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Did the countdown clock just lose a day or was that me?
legendary
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They are either trolling us by letting us here cooking or running away.

I must say that I find it really strange not to have any kind of update. Why should they not update us here if they are on schedule? I fear that something went wrong. (I suggested guys here to resell their order... It would have been a safe and big gain).
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Back to the topic;we have  3 days to go for the shipping to occur. I would wager that most people are currently on the fence to see where they'll put their money now. Expect a massive wave of requests for refunds at BFL if Avalon pulls through....

Personally, I wouldn't want a refund unless Avalon's second batch is somehow going to beat BFL's first...and if they can somehow get the power usage down.

I'm somewhat confused by why they aren't showing off shiny ASICs right now.
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Why Avalon beats about the bush? Show us something... You probably have a full room of well-tested packages.
legendary
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So after waiting days for the Avalon team to clarify the claims they made of having 10+ years experience producing ASICs they have failed to address the issue I have raised. I said they would avoid the issue of experience and they have done just that. The Avalon team's silence is thunderous. After all if they tell the community the truth after lying the community would rip them a new orifice and kill their chance of a successful second round of pre-orders. But after Tom's debacle it is unlikely that many would be willing to go the pre-oreder route again when purchasing an ASIC product.

So let's approach the question of Avalon's experience from a different direction. It has been reported that Avalon bought something like 1000 ASIC chips from Tom, sight unseen and untested. The use of Tom's ASIC would require a new PCB, chassis and power supply, bASICally a completely new product. This being true even though Avalon was going to be first to market. A thinking person can see my next question before it is even asked.

If the Avalon team is so skilled in manufacturing an ASIC product why don't they have the confidence in their own product? Why does the Avalon development team believe an untested, still in development ASIC is a better product then the one they have produced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EnrVf9u8s

It is becoming increasingly unlikely that Avalon's production run will exceed 300 units. I personally believe that there is a greater than 80% chance that Avalon will become the next failed Bitcion ASIC producer.
Alright, I will bite.

What links do you have to solidly support the idea that Avalon purchases 1000+ ASIC devices (or otherwise) from Tom?
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Away on an extended break
Libertybuck and nemesis, stop your off topic trolling here. Languages other than English go to the Local subsection. In person attacks and posts filled with off-topic cursing go to the trashcan. Consider this a warning.
(PS: Yes, I understand Chinese perfectly without Google Translate)

Continue the civil discussion please.


Sir,

Thanks for your justice.

I have a silly question here: what's the TOPIC we are discussing here ?

If I remember it correctly, it should be:  [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1].  Isn't it ?

I am a customer of Avalon ASIC, why could not I post rely here ?


>  "Languages other than English go to the Local subsection."

So, Avalon customers from Asia, Russian and so on have no right to discuss with device provider about project status here ?

Topic ower and I say same kind of language. Why couldn't I ask him question with mother language ?


> In person attacks and posts filled with off-topic cursing go to the trashcan. Consider this a warning.

nemesis attacked I and my national language first. Do you know ?  If you are fair, you should drag him to trashcan.
 

Didn't you realize that BOTH of your posts are already deleted? You can PM him in your mother tongue if it suits you and him, just don't do it here. Your last few posts are filled with ad-hominem attacks against him, and is off-topic.

Back to the topic;we have  3 days to go for the shipping to occur. I would wager that most people are currently on the fence to see where they'll put their money now. Expect a massive wave of requests for refunds at BFL if Avalon pulls through....
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So after waiting days for the Avalon team to clarify the claims they made of having 10+ years experience producing ASICs they have failed to address the issue I have raised. I said they would avoid the issue of experience and they have done just that. The Avalon team's silence is thunderous. After all if they tell the community the truth after lying the community would rip them a new orifice and kill their chance of a successful second round of pre-orders. But after Tom's debacle it is unlikely that many would be willing to go the pre-oreder route again when purchasing an ASIC product.

So let's approach the question of Avalon's experience from a different direction. It has been reported that Avalon bought something like 1000 ASIC chips from Tom, sight unseen and untested. The use of Tom's ASIC would require a new PCB, chassis and power supply, bASICally a completely new product. This being true even though Avalon was going to be first to market. A thinking person can see my next question before it is even asked.

If the Avalon team is so skilled in manufacturing an ASIC product why don't they have the confidence in their own product? Why does the Avalon development team believe an untested, still in development ASIC is a better product then the one they have produced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EnrVf9u8s

It is becoming increasingly unlikely that Avalon's production run will exceed 300 units. I personally believe that there is a greater than 80% chance that Avalon will become the next failed Bitcion ASIC producer.

I really, really hope that Avalon succeed but you have a good point/question here.
sr. member
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I personally believe that there is a greater than 80% chance that Avalon will become the next failed Bitcion ASIC producer.
I assume you're a heavily invested BFL customer?
sr. member
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I personally believe that there is a greater than 80% chance that Avalon will become the next failed Bitcion ASIC producer.

Time will tell. They certainly have a very long way to go to match BFL's incredible level of FAIL.
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So after waiting days for the Avalon team to clarify the claims they made of having 10+ years experience producing ASICs they have failed to address the issue I have raised. I said they would avoid the issue of experience and they have done just that. The Avalon team's silence is thunderous. After all if they tell the community the truth after lying the community would rip them a new orifice and kill their chance of a successful second round of pre-orders. But after Tom's debacle it is unlikely that many would be willing to go the pre-oreder route again when purchasing an ASIC product.

So let's approach the question of Avalon's experience from a different direction. It has been reported that Avalon bought something like 1000 ASIC chips from Tom, sight unseen and untested. The use of Tom's ASIC would require a new PCB, chassis and power supply, bASICally a completely new product. This being true even though Avalon was going to be first to market. A thinking person can see my next question before it is even asked.

If the Avalon team is so skilled in manufacturing an ASIC product why don't they have the confidence in their own product? Why does the Avalon development team believe an untested, still in development ASIC is a better product then the one they have produced?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_EnrVf9u8s

It is becoming increasingly unlikely that Avalon's production run will exceed 300 units. I personally believe that there is a greater than 80% chance that Avalon will become the next failed Bitcion ASIC producer.
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Libertybuck and nemesis, stop your off topic trolling here. Languages other than English go to the Local subsection. In person attacks and posts filled with off-topic cursing go to the trashcan. Consider this a warning.
(PS: Yes, I understand Chinese perfectly without Google Translate)

Continue the civil discussion please.

Sir,

Thanks for your justice.

I have a silly question here: what's the TOPIC we are discussing here ?

If I remember it correctly, it should be:  [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Development Status [Batch #1].  Isn't it ?

I am a customer of Avalon ASIC, why could not I post rely here ?


>  "Languages other than English go to the Local subsection."

So, Avalon customers from Asia, Russian and so on have no right to discuss with device provider about project status here ?

Topic ower and I say same kind of language. Why couldn't I ask him question with mother language ?


> In person attacks and posts filled with off-topic cursing go to the trashcan. Consider this a warning.

nemesis attacked I and my national language first. Do you know ?  If you are fair, you should drag him to trashcan.
 
legendary
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Away on an extended break
Libertybuck and nemesis, stop your off topic trolling here. Languages other than English go to the Local subsection. In person attacks and posts filled with off-topic cursing go to the trashcan. Consider this a warning.
(PS: Yes, I understand Chinese perfectly without Google Translate)

Continue the civil discussion please.
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