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Topic: Announcement: Bitmain launches AntMiner solution, 0.68 J/GH on chip - page 42. (Read 368268 times)

legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
They can mine about .185 btc left with .08 cents electricity in China.

.08 btc with .16 electricity like most of USA.

.01 btc with .30 electricity like alot of Europe.

even mining.thegenesisblock gives better numbers:

$220 in revenue in 3 mo with ~$90 in expenses
after that-pencil mod and another month of profitability.
total profit $145  or 0.228 BTC
assumed $0.12/kwh in electricity (this is what i pay in US) and $634/BTC

Your .12 electricity and 634 btc price will mine .129 btc lifetime.

this can't be right, unless you are subtracting the electricity cost. all calculators show ~0.3BTC total (BEFORE subtracting the electricity cost).
if you are assuming 18% jump every 10 days-it is simply NOT going to happen, unless hardware market goes truly crazy.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
They can mine about .185 btc left with .08 cents electricity in China.

.08 btc with .16 electricity like most of USA.

.01 btc with .30 electricity like alot of Europe.

even mining.thegenesisblock gives better numbers:

$220 in revenue in 3 mo with ~$90 in expenses
after that-pencil mod and another month of profitability.
total profit $145  or 0.228 BTC
assumed $0.12/kwh in electricity (this is what i pay in US) and $634/BTC

Your .12 electricity and 634 btc price will mine .129 btc lifetime.

Is your calculator adjusting for difficulty jumps every 2 weeks, which means less mining power.  

In September when diff is near 38 Billion it will mine only .013 more btc.

Its the same numbers/formula .  Only adjusted values.  Change for diff, electricity, btc price.  hash rate, power

I use 18% diff, .16 elec, current btc

And I did a whole article recently in which US customers have usually higher electricity rates than the wholesale cost on their bills.  Typically including delivery, transportation, generation, and administrative fees this usually adds 4-6 cents to a bill.  My wholesale rate here in PA is .12 cents but the bottom line is .16 when its all calculated and time to pay for the watts used.
legendary
Activity: 3892
Merit: 4331
They can mine about .185 btc left with .08 cents electricity in China.

.08 btc with .16 electricity like most of USA.

.01 btc with .30 electricity like alot of Europe.

even mining.thegenesisblock gives better numbers:

$220 in revenue in 3 mo with ~$90 in expenses
after that-pencil mod and another month of profitability.
total profit $145  or 0.228 BTC
assumed $0.12/kwh in electricity (this is what i pay in US) and $634/BTC
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
They can mine about .185 btc left with .08 cents electricity in China.

.08 btc with .16 electricity like most of USA.

.01 btc with .30 electricity like alot of Europe.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
I think it may be better to purchase the S3's now and dump the S1's on eBay

If
S1's are selling on EBay for £50-00
then
they may be a better buy than new S3's HuhHuhHuh??

Not sure they will actually be selling for £50.00 at the moment, many seem to achieve £150 - 250 as they wil still be useful for about 6 months, depending on BTC value.

Last week there were about 6 sellers, this week 60?

There are many asking £250 with 0 bids.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
I think it may be better to purchase the S3's now and dump the S1's on eBay

If
S1's are selling on EBay for £50-00
then
they may be a better buy than new S3's HuhHuhHuh??

Not sure they will actually be selling for £50.00 at the moment, many seem to achieve £150 - 250 as they wil still be useful for about 6 months, depending on BTC value.
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
I think it may be better to purchase the S3's now and dump the S1's on eBay

If
S1's are selling on EBay for £50-00
then
they may be a better buy than new S3's HuhHuhHuh??
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
I think it may be better to purchase the S3's now and dump the S1's on eBay
hero member
Activity: 868
Merit: 1000
Bitmain said the upgrade kit for S1's would be available n a few months, by that time I fear they will be of little use

Who said that? I wrote them an email few days ago and they told me is going to be available very soon.

I sent them an email and asked when S1 upgrades would be available and the answer came back "upgrade plan will be released in several months, please wait for our official announcement".


"upgrade plan will be released in several months"

This reads more like a trade in option. Probably when the S3 is no longer selling in large numbers.
Just think how many S1 farms you could control, if you had very cheep/free Chinese hydro electric, using free S1 returned units.
legendary
Activity: 2128
Merit: 1005
ASIC Wannabe
It seems it would be easier to upgrade s2 units than s1.

Isn't an S2 just essentially multiple S1 blades in a bigger case? In which case I assume it would be just as esy to upgrade an S2 as it would be to upgrade an S1. I would assume that if the upgrade kit is ever made available it would consist of the bare boards leaving us to bolt on the existing heatsinks (careful with the paste) and fit them into the case.

I am not sure why Bitmain are not releasing the upgrades yet as I would have thought it would be quick BTC for them as they won't have to supply heatsinks or cases, I can olny assume the delay is either due to firmware issues or because they want to get the most out of new purchases first.

the S1 and S2 are very different. The S1 upgrade would be pcb-only since the heatsinks are so large. An S2 upgrade would almost certainly include heatsinks, as they are much thinner and re-mounting 10 pcbs to heatsinks per S2 would be a pain
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
It seems it would be easier to upgrade s2 units than s1.

Isn't an S2 just essentially multiple S1 blades in a bigger case? In which case I assume it would be just as esy to upgrade an S2 as it would be to upgrade an S1. I would assume that if the upgrade kit is ever made available it would consist of the bare boards leaving us to bolt on the existing heatsinks (careful with the paste) and fit them into the case.

I am not sure why Bitmain are not releasing the upgrades yet as I would have thought it would be quick BTC for them as they won't have to supply heatsinks or cases, I can olny assume the delay is either due to firmware issues or because they want to get the most out of new purchases first.
hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 1003
It seems it would be easier to upgrade s2 units than s1.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Bitmain said the upgrade kit for S1's would be available n a few months, by that time I fear they will be of little use

Who said that? I wrote them an email few days ago and they told me is going to be available very soon.

I sent them an email and asked when S1 upgrades would be available and the answer came back "upgrade plan will be released in several months, please wait for our official announcement".

member
Activity: 95
Merit: 10
Bitmain said the upgrade kit for S1's would be available n a few months, by that time I fear they will be of little use

For certain people, myself included, this would actually work out perfectly.  I am paying low electricity cost so I plan on running my S1s until at least October. Would be a waste to get rid of the S1 blades before their usage time is up.  So yeah, lettin them hash out a little more profit for a couple months, then upgrading boards, sounds like a leet strat to me.  Also, Im not just waiting for the board upgrades, pickin up 2 S3s on batch 3.
full member
Activity: 238
Merit: 100
ASIC Myth Buster
You can just use the same worker on 2 S3.  btcguild or even eligius, you can do that!!



is there anyway to group two s3's together as the one mining pool username? will this be better as you can up the difficulty of your worker or pointless?
newbie
Activity: 41
Merit: 0
is there anyway to group two s3's together as the one mining pool username? will this be better as you can up the difficulty of your worker or pointless?
member
Activity: 115
Merit: 10
Bitmain said the upgrade kit for S1's would be available n a few months, by that time I fear they will be of little use

Who said that? I wrote them an email few days ago and they told me is going to be available very soon.
newbie
Activity: 33
Merit: 0
Bitmain said the upgrade kit for S1's would be available n a few months, by that time I fear they will be of little use
member
Activity: 115
Merit: 10
We need the update kit for S1's!!
hero member
Activity: 741
Merit: 514
https://www.bitmain.com
AntMiner S3 NEWS

The Third Batch of S3 sales price is dropped to 0.725 BTC each with international shipping, which will open sales at 22:00 pm on July 4th (UTM + 8 ). The Third Batch is most likely to be shipped before July 20th, but no more than one or two days delay may happen.
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