I m stopping mining on Mining hub Pool.
Because of the PPNLS System, i ve lost a lot.
NOWHERE on your website you specify you use PPLNS system, and what is it. ? Why do you hide this ?
I ve mined with 0,01 BTC with Nicehash, about 0,5 to 1mhs equihash for about 1 hours on BTG pool.
And has no block where find, then i get no reward
?
THAT'S UNFAIR.SO on Mining Hub Pool,
FINDERS / KEEPERS -> If you are not here at the EXACT moment the block is find,
then you lost ALL your work !That's so unfair ! I use Awesome miner, that's a really good program, but it's use PROFIT system, that frequently switch between pool for best rewards, they put
YOUR pool in the switching system with is a sort of scam, because the program switch regulary (you program for 1 min to x min as you wish)
I was mining on your pool from many weeks with this feature, and i ve lost a lot with your PPNLS system.
It's really unfair to not at least put a warning on your repartition share system.For my part, i m completly stopping working with your pool, and if you are like me using a profit switching pool, you should think about i said...
So i mine 90 min, block find at 60 min ->
30 min work lost (33% loss)i mine 3 min, no block find ->
100% lossi mine 5h, no block find ->
100% loss (possible on BTG pool)PPNLS is a very unfair system. I m complaining here about the fact you don't put on your website the sharing system you use, and how it work.
I know you have put it on your first post here on Bitcointalk, but i was choose your pool, by passing though Awesome miner, and i never saw your repartition system, and i looked a lot your website.
I m not happy !
Question : Do you keep the people work that switch before the effective block find for you ? or do you share it with miners finders blocks ? How can you prove you share all the rewards with the finders, you could just pay the "people shared work that was not here before the block is find" to your adress ?
PPLNS is already written on dashboard page.
Also most pools use pplns because it's known to be one of the most fair system.
PPLNS doesn't mean that you lost when you leave before the block found time.
PPLNS window is large as average block time length, so you would get some in most times.
There's no stealing or something.
The problem is that pool finds block rarely, and you mined only at unlucky period. If you mined longer you should get rewards.
I'm curious that you already got some BTG on your account.
You already withdrew 0.08816222 BTG.
FYI, pool's auto switching feature only switches when block is found.
Also hopping is not discouraged from PPLNS.
PPLNS discourages pool hopping cheaters. It's different strategy.
Hi, just started using the multipoolminer by aaronsace with my 2 gtx1070 and it works great so far. Still waiting to see the profits compared to mining a single coin, but I am hopeful.
Is this the best miner for multipool mining?
Is there any way to monitor the current mining besides using remote desktop?
You can monitor each coin's mining hashrate on each pool's dashboard.
I know it's ugly.
I'll implement one page dashboard soon.
Hello,
Could you please help me with calculation as per data below
PPLNS Target 63836
Round Shares Submitted shares since last found block (ie. round shares)
Est. Shares 271,170 (done: 321.66%)
Your Valid 84.4711
Your Invalid 0.9333 (1.09%)
XZC Estimates
Block 0.00385283
Fees 0.00003468
Donation 0.00000000
Payout 0.00381815
Network Info
Difficulty 16,948.09604798
Est. Avg. Time per Block 10 minutes 26 seconds
Current Block 63163
My share from all submitted is is 84/271179 = 0,031%
Reward for found block is equal 40.
40*0,031% = 0,0124 XZC
Why does it estimate reward for my contribution to 0.00385283 XZC? What do I miss in my calculation. Seems I missed something obvious, sorry for noobish question
Thanks to aaronsace pointing out estimation math.
As pool uses PPLNS, it's not that easy to calculate reward with simple calculation.
Pool need to count all shares backward from the block is found upto average PPLNS window length.
I recommend you to check your previous reward on Transactions page if you want to know more accurate estimation.
Looking at all these problems reports I think I would like to say that I am very happy with this pool.
And saying big thanks to pool owners and support.
You're welcome.
PPNLS is a very unfair system. I m complaining here about the fact you don't put on your website the sharing system you use, and how it work.
It is your own fault for not researching what PPLNS means and what system the pool is using. PPLNS is a great system as it discourages pool hoppers.
The most fair system is RBPPS if implemented without any "tweaks", using BlockReward*ActualShares/ExpShares formula and all shares are included from start to end of the block. It's also not very risky to pool owners, because reward is paid only after block confirmation. Moreover, if pool is very effective (like Monero pool on MPH with its 98% long-time luck), the pool owner can set 0% or negative RBPPS fee, and set a higher fee on less lucky pools.
Hopping is a reality due to introduction of a lot of profitable competing crypto-currencies. If you do not hop as a miner, you lose anyway by not mining a more profitable currency.
RBPPS may fit for some miners but I don't think it's ideal.
PPLNS is mainly win-win game trying to find more blocks.
But RBPPS is like zero-sum game fighting for limited reward between pool operator and miner.
What kind of pool operator would lose for long time if they have the master key on his hand.
Pool op will change fee frequently or manipulate numbers to get more. Pool op will never lose in this game at last.
The main problem is that RBPPS has grey region between honest and scam while PPLNS has strict line between honest and scam.
Also actually hopping is not discouraged by PPLNS. PPLNS is just for fair distribution system.
pool hopping for cheating strategy is not that same as hopping here and there.
