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Topic: [ANN][RIC] Riecoin: constellations POW *CPU* HARD FORK successful, world record - page 78. (Read 685265 times)

hero member
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For all users: I have always said that the solo mining harms users using the available pools, I don't care if RiePool gets the 30-50-80% power!

I would just like, I think in the interest of the whole community, that users were using the pools, that's all dear!


And yet, this is what doesn't make sense.

Pools or not, miners get block rewards in proportion to their share of the total hash rate.

That's it.  Pools have benefits for smaller miners, and it's good to have pools around to make it easier for everyone to participate.  But pools are bad for larger miners, because they charge fees that would otherwise go in their own pockets.  And, as anyone who's played the game knows, mining is a very low-margin activity, particularly for CPU coins like this where botnets often get involved.

But as long as there are some ways for small miners to play, then it doesn't matter if pools get 5% of the hash or 100% of the hash.

Cryptocurrencies are generally viewed as secure as long as no entity or colluding group of entities has more than 50% (or 33%, if you favor the selfish mining interpretation) of the hash rate.  In that regard, any pool having more than 50% is a *potential* problem, because the operator of that pool could choose to discard the work done by others, or prevent certain transactions from going through.

What's the argument that all users need to use pools?

Having a strong *community* is important, and pools can be a part of that, or they can not -- but that very much depends on the pool operator.  Operators who just run a pool aren't very important.  Operators who contribute code back, help publicize the coin, and support users and miners, etc., are great.  People who DDoS nodes attempting to join the network, however, are actively harmful to the health of the coin, because they make it harder for people to use it and join the community.

Amen to that!
So the problems (with the network) started after RiePool showed up, followed by lots of node ddos'ing as soon as RiePool had more than 50 % semi-permanently.
Simba also actively violates licenses with her closed-source miner (software) which only works for her pool. Not a nice community player, more like a hash-power shark who looking for his personal gain at the cost of the whole RIEcoin network.
dga
hero member
Activity: 737
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For all users: I have always said that the solo mining harms users using the available pools, I don't care if RiePool gets the 30-50-80% power!

I would just like, I think in the interest of the whole community, that users were using the pools, that's all dear!


And yet, this is what doesn't make sense.

Pools or not, miners get block rewards in proportion to their share of the total hash rate.

That's it.  Pools have benefits for smaller miners, and it's good to have pools around to make it easier for everyone to participate.  But pools are bad for larger miners, because they charge fees that would otherwise go in their own pockets.  And, as anyone who's played the game knows, mining is a very low-margin activity, particularly for CPU coins like this where botnets often get involved.

But as long as there are some ways for small miners to play, then it doesn't matter if pools get 5% of the hash or 100% of the hash.

Cryptocurrencies are generally viewed as secure as long as no entity or colluding group of entities has more than 50% (or 33%, if you favor the selfish mining interpretation) of the hash rate.  In that regard, any pool having more than 50% is a *potential* problem, because the operator of that pool could choose to discard the work done by others, or prevent certain transactions from going through.

What's the argument that all users need to use pools?

Having a strong *community* is important, and pools can be a part of that, or they can not -- but that very much depends on the pool operator.  Operators who just run a pool aren't very important.  Operators who contribute code back, help publicize the coin, and support users and miners, etc., are great.  People who DDoS nodes attempting to join the network, however, are actively harmful to the health of the coin, because they make it harder for people to use it and join the community.
sr. member
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What about these addresses that mine only one block and no more? are the 30-40% of the riecoin mining. These addresses are destroying the coin too?

am i missing something here? ...

how is ANY of this destroying the coin? ... i dont get it ...

and dont think im a green newbie to mining - especially some of the more difficult coins ... i am really at a loss as to why ANYONE would claim that solomining - pool mining - or ANY mining is destroying the coin ...

on the algo front though - this is such an interesting concept that its almost too difficult to look away when it comes to hashing / algo ...

very unique in every sense of the word ...

dev - lets chat some ...

#crysx

Exactly my point ... many ppl. here already suspect simba behind the attacks on the network with his > 50 % network (pool) hashing power. He/She gets very defensive when somebody is not using his pool, because it would mean it is not so easy to manipulate the network anymore. Pure speculation I know ... but this is how I see it.
If you saw this, you should buy a good pair of eyes glasses my dear! Maybe are you who dossing my platform.... and then.... manipulate.... WHAT Huh LOL

I haven't the time to get to make "games" with DDoS or something similar.

Definitely I'll do some checks on my servers.........


For all users: I have always said that the solo mining harms users using the available pools, I don't care if RiePool gets the 30-50-80% power!

I would just like, I think in the interest of the whole community, that users were using the pools, that's all dear!
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 500
What about these addresses that mine only one block and no more? are the 30-40% of the riecoin mining. These addresses are destroying the coin too?

am i missing something here? ...

how is ANY of this destroying the coin? ... i dont get it ...

and dont think im a green newbie to mining - especially some of the more difficult coins ... i am really at a loss as to why ANYONE would claim that solomining - pool mining - or ANY mining is destroying the coin ...

on the algo front though - this is such an interesting concept that its almost too difficult to look away when it comes to hashing / algo ...

very unique in every sense of the word ...

dev - lets chat some ...

#crysx

Exactly my point ... many ppl. here already suspect simba behind the attacks on the network with his > 50 % network (pool) hashing power. He/She gets very defensive when somebody is not using his pool, because it would mean it is not so easy to manipulate the network anymore. Pure speculation I know ... but this is how I see it.
legendary
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What about these addresses that mine only one block and no more? are the 30-40% of the riecoin mining. These addresses are destroying the coin too?

am i missing something here? ...

how is ANY of this destroying the coin? ... i dont get it ...

and dont think im a green newbie to mining - especially some of the more difficult coins ... i am really at a loss as to why ANYONE would claim that solomining - pool mining - or ANY mining is destroying the coin ...

on the algo front though - this is such an interesting concept that its almost too difficult to look away when it comes to hashing / algo ...

very unique in every sense of the word ...

dev - lets chat some ...

#crysx
full member
Activity: 201
Merit: 102
What about these addresses that mine only one block and no more? are the 30-40% of the riecoin mining. These addresses are destroying the coin too?
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 500
I'm pretty sure you are one of Simba's sock puppet accounts ....
I think that RockAndPool are you! Same offensive language! And exactly like him I point to moderators.

Bye Bye Baby
Still waiting for your explanation .... So go on please! Explain!
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
I'm pretty sure you are one of Simba's sock puppet accounts ....
I think that RockAndPool are you! Same offensive language! And exactly like him I point to moderators.

Bye Bye Baby
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 500
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap

And how is the solo miner doing this? I'm mean the destroying part? Please enlighten us with you endless wisdom.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Im pretty sure he is the solominer
I'm pretty sure you are one of Simba's sock puppet accounts ....
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 500
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap

And how is the solo miner doing this? I'm mean the destroying part? Please enlighten us with you endless wisdom.
Sometimes They Come Back  Roll Eyes

... also RockAndPool

Also Sometimes They Come Back  Roll Eyes

You only have to read the blockchain to understand the movements of the coins and find out who is "THE ONE" that go Solo..... But you know that already!


P.S. But you two said that Solo mining? ahahahhaha

Still waiting for your answer ... why is Soloming bad (for RIC)? Please be very specific and technical.
full member
Activity: 255
Merit: 102
uBlock.it Admin
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap
lol, tell that to the Bitcoin solo miners . . .
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap

And how is the solo miner doing this? I'm mean the destroying part? Please enlighten us with you endless wisdom.
Sometimes They Come Back  Roll Eyes

... also RockAndPool

Also Sometimes They Come Back  Roll Eyes

You only have to read the blockchain to understand the movements of the coins and find out who is "THE ONE" that go Solo..... But you know that already!


P.S. But you two said that Solo mining? ahahahhaha
jr. member
Activity: 56
Merit: 10
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap

And how is the solo miner doing this? I'm mean the destroying part? Please enlighten us with you endless wisdom.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Im pretty sure he is the solominer
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 500
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap

And how is the solo miner doing this? I'm mean the destroying part? Please enlighten us with you endless wisdom.
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
I want to congratulate with "the one" who SOLO mining because it's destroying this coin!

Clap clap
dga
hero member
Activity: 737
Merit: 511
I see that the DDoS-ing jerk is still at it, so I've set up another DDoS-protected VPS running a Riecoin node:

198.251.83.216

Frantech/BuyVM this time, with 500Gbps of filtering.  It's kind of awesome how cheap KVM slices are these days. Smiley

Feel free to connect to it.  If it gets overloaded by connections or bandwidth, I'll work with ziip on getting those
automatic filtering scripts in place, and it should be easy to upgrade it to a few extra TB of bandwidth per month if needed.

Once it proves itself for the next week or so, I'll pay for a year in advance on it.

If anyone else is interested in joining the game, I can scribble up some quick instructions.
full member
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uBlock.it Admin
Miners should spread the hashrate, Riepool is mining 50% or more of the blocks. Switch pools or go solo.
Miners should use ONLY the available pools not going solo, if they want to help the Riecoin community.

There is nothing wrong with going solo as long as no single entity has over 50% network hashrate.
sr. member
Activity: 269
Merit: 250
Miners should spread the hashrate, Riepool is mining 50% or more of the blocks. Switch pools or go solo.
Miners should use ONLY the available pools not going solo, if they want to help the Riecoin community.
full member
Activity: 255
Merit: 102
uBlock.it Admin
Miners should spread the hashrate, Riepool is mining 50% or more of the blocks. Switch pools or go solo.
newbie
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