Topic: [ANN][RUNE] Runeuro pre-ICO: Neurohardware production Blockchain corporation - page 2. (Read 8376 times)

I will just wait for the prototype. So it's a long wait then. Not so much happenings here.

Thank you for your interest and support! Yes, we collected enough investments for production of the prototype which we will be presented in 3 months.

Thanks for investing your time! We are responding on Russian thread because 99% of investments came from Russia, and we decided to orient RUNEURO for Russian market first. Let's suppose it happened after accusations here. I understand your eagerness to protect people from scam, but in case if we are honest enterpreneurs, and you did bad service for people who lost potential profit not investing in RUNEURO at this early stage hope you will make compensations to them if they will ask you in future after prototype readiness and increase of the RUNE tokens cost. Our escrow is Yonatan Ben Shimon. Try to be honest too, telling Akimov is clown not true, as he don't have clown diploma ) So it looks like you apparently lied.

Yes, I gave them the benefit of the doubt... But after they started ICO, I invested some more time to investigate this better, and everything I have found made me much more sceptical. Basicaly, no benefit of the doubt could be applied here, because I don't have doubts regarding them anymore.

The project itself could have been a good one. Neurointerfaces are really promicing field to invest in.

However... those are the wrong people to implement that. The academics are real (one of them is a particularly solid one), however the people responsible for the project itself, are just clowns (Akimov in particular). This project is not serious, and though probably some of them do not have scam intentions (meaning not all of them are profi scammers, but only part), they will eventually take money and disappear, just because they are unable to carry serious business.

One very simple example - they cannot even decide and comminicate the pre-ICO price, even with campaign already started - on the OP (both in English and Russian threads) it is mentioned that the price per token is not fixed, but will be defined during the crowfunding. On the website however, it is stated that the price is fixed and is exacatly 0.003 RUNE per token. This is just utterly unprofessional. Such people cannot produce anything.

And the escrow deal - they apparently lied regarding escrows. They don't have one.

Those are just a bunch of fortune seekers with no idea on money management, professional comminication and basicly on anything else business-related. See how they disappeared here for many days after ICO start? They were active on Russian thread a bit more, but people bashed them out, and now they keep silence.

I hope that will give some more boost to pre ICO funding. Later when you will launch on Wings maybe all those problems will not be on you anymore 

How much pre ICO funding do you actually need to make working version?

@drays, I know you were one of their supporters before, even giving them the benefit of the doubt. Your perspectives on their project are different from the others. A lot are pinning them down as scammers but you believed otherwise. Now, you are seeing things differently and so am I.
I am following their updates coz I really wanted to see if this highly advanced project will come into realizations. Considering that they included the scientific academe for that matter. However, how they presented the concept and the overview that they showed are not even professional. Seems that they are just playing around. And so with my disappointments.
And as you stated they are now ignoring legitimate questions but ok let's give them another chance. Let's wait one more time what they will present to the community...

I have never seen such badly coordinated and unprofessionally rushed crowdfunding here on Bitcointak (even smallest scams do it better, not to mention normal projects).

The project somehow collected about 3-4k USD at the moment (https://etherscan.io/address/0x1e2869A925e5Fb8380e096DADd6D909A4496Ebc7). I suppose those are insiders or ICO gamblers.

I want to stress one more time, that there is no escrow on this crowdfund. They mention Dabs as one of the escrows, however Dabs never confirmed that. Moreover, I have contacted Dabs and he told me they are still negotiating, nothing is confirmed, and obviously he is not escrowing the funds currently.

What a mess. Runeuro guys, why is this rush? Why you started this unprepared, without any campaign, without escrow, without community?
I have two versions (except the obvious one):

1. You have run out of pocket money, and need any amount as soon as possible
2. You want the insiders to invest first with the most beneficial terms (btw, that is is a kind of fraud legally, as far as I know)

And now even ignoring legitimate questions here.

What a joke. I'm out.

ANN trash,,just make dirt in this forum, do ICO without detailed explanation, without Escrow,no visible bounty Campaign and they were still amateurs and hustlers who are just learning.
you implement Crowdsale Crytpto or sell products, funny jokes you

Folks, you rush with this ICO so much... its incredible. Looks like you want to force people to invest as soon as possible with those bonuses. You know that rush is a clear scam pattern?

And you ignored community questions regarding escrow. Note: a public escrow, who has not publicly confirmed the fact of being escrow on this project, worths nothing! If you jndeed have escrows, they should publicly confirm it.

I wanted to invest here, but nope. I will pass. Will not invest in pre-ICO done in this rush way. And if I dont invest in pre-ICO because of your mistakes, I will never invest in ICO too.

Its a pity this project goes that way - to nowhere.

Another picture with our professors.
From left to right: CEO Zamir Akimov, Igor Trapeznikov another expert in neuro-technology, Professor Sergey Kibalnikov, Professor Alexander Kaplan.
Emotiv Insight wireless headset is on Sergey Kibalnikov head. It's good piece of technology (collected $1,643,117 on KickStarter), but it hurts to wear it more that 10 minutes and when you, for example, moving on street. So Runeuro solving this problem making headset better fitted to continuous usage.

And friendly reminder:
Last chance to get RUNE with 30% discount and get one prototype Runeuro headset for free:
http://www.runeuro.net/
30% discount will last just for 1 hour and 30 minutes more...

Yeah, thanks for the advice. We have chosen a couple of fiat-crypto exchanges and tested the transactions to the smart contract address. It was OK so if some people want to invest with fiat we recommend them to use these exchanges.

very very amateur.

what the fuck is the dog doing in there?

you are seriously expecting people to give you shit loads of money on the back of that piss poor video?

 

Did anybody from the team get a chance to look at my post few days ago?

Wait wait wait... why are you selling the apple necklace as an ICO?  Just give Apple a few years and they will get it done.

This is too much. NEURO INTERFACE? I mean, yea that would be awesome BUT there are MILLIONS researching this right now and they have ample funding and corporate cooperation...Why does this need to be done on a blockchain so we can accept phone calls, change pandora stations and adjust volume.

Ill wait until coins are at 10% ICO price on exchange.

man ICOs keep getting more pie in the sky and less realistic.

Pre-ICO is just started: http://www.runeuro.net/


Wings use ethereum blockchain and we plan to store hashes of such data in it, though we have some alternatives.
In this base project we don't need to store wast amount of data like raw EEG records, just small hashes of it. But in platform, which we announce later, such data will be stored and can be sold/purchased by RUNE tokens and for that purpose we plan to use something like IPFS.

Thank you for your interest in investing! Address for investing with ETH smart contract to calculate the RUNE tokens will be on crowdsale page of runeuro.net site tomorrow 27.02.2017.

Those professors seem to be aware of the subject, based on their reactions. But I am not sure how seriously they take all that crypto/runeuro/crowdfunding stuff, and Mr.Akimov in general. Would be nice if they speak a couple of words about the project themselves, even if it is in Russian, as I guess they are not fluent in English (unlike contemporary computer tech, which is currently English-based as it was mostly developed on the West, the more fundamental sciences were pretty well developed on non-English speaking countries, like Soviet Union/Russia, so old scientific folks are mostly not good in English, though have some basic knowledge of course).

Actually it will be much better if they speak Russian on the video (because it will be more natural and sincere), and tell some of their thoughts on this specific project. Otherwise I suspect they are not taking it seriously.

One more, very important aspect: even if the scientific side of the project could sound quite good, I have much doubts related to financial/monetizing part :/. Old Russians (especially science folks) always had very vague idea on business-side of projects; and new young "nimble" Russians (like the young guy on video, and the guy who posted the pump/dump scheme on his facebook), are mostly scam/swindling oriented :/. Thats very unfortunate, but is a fact with Russia today.

Hi Runeuro folks
I am back on this new thread...
Glad to see you reacted constructively to the feedback on the old thread. The changes done are welcome (not sure they are enough though), the change of ticker from RUN to RUNE is ingenious (clearly you want people to stop associating ating your project's name with "run away with money" thing  )

Interesting talk on video. Though I see the doggie is not excited by some reason... It yawns all the time  .

On a different topic - regarding neuroidentification module - if I understand correctly, you want to record the neuro reaction of an indnividual to some specific objects, and store it permanently inside blockchain, so it is immutable. Here I have two unrelated questions:
 (a) will it be the same blockchain RUNE token is running on? I am not familuar with Wings project... does it have allow to have specific storage place for such data? How big is that data?
 (b) are you sure those human neuro-reactions do not change over time? When the person matures, he/she has a lot of changes going on affecting his/her perception of the world. And even with grown-up person, some drastic events could change his/her reaction and perception to many-many things.. Speaking simply - he could start to hate something he loved before, or vise versa. How that neuro reactions could be constant enough, to be used as a password?! This could end up like "after the couple married, spent some time together, and returned from honeymoon, all their passwords have been lost . Or some tourists captured by tsunami, or put in jail during their trip to Thailand, and upon returning, find their access to all the wallets/sites blocked, because they are now somewhat different people than before.

platform WINGS acts as the operator RUNEURO to conduct pre-ICO and ICO. All funds received are credited to a special account multipoles. Escrow functions will be performed by the representative Wings Stas Oskin and CEO of project Matchpool Yonatan Ben Shimon (Yonatan Ben Shimon). Can anyone clarify the special account multipoles to throw the crypto to participate in pre-ICO.