Here are some pools that are currently out of the top 101, but will most likely be forging (top 101) soon:
ryancat
bran
forumfinancejv
worldshift
ron
lordshare
blink_pool
My delegate "Starlord" is not currently a pool, but I have maintained 100% uptime for my node thus far.
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July 23, 2017, 08:28:14 AM
July 23, 2017, 08:15:07 AM
Also, how do ppl know who they are voting for?
You need to open a webwallet first https://wallet.shiftnrg.org. Send your Shift to your webwallet and make sure to create a secondary passphrase. This is important. Once you have control of your Shift, you can vote from your wallet for the pools and delegates of your choosing. At that point, you will be staking through the pools. In your wallet you can see who you are voting for. Join the Ryver group, you will get faster support there. Feel free to vote for "starlord" if you like
I compiled a list of the current pools who are paying out with a min of 10% of forged rewards or higher. Keep in mind some pools pay as high as 90%.
seatrips
gregorst
official_pool
shiftraider
djandre
shiftspider
sio34
shiftpool
redpool
dimm86
shozay_pool
ampsicora
stefanoproxy_pool
trnp
hongkie
worldcoinpool
mg_pool
shiftcow
peanhoy
kiashaan_amz
swimming_pool
swminer90
yondz
bitmyst
forrest
ghostfaceuk
vipertkd
liskit
kanieloutis
oakey22
In my opinion as a community member, you shouldn't just vote for pools, you should consider the uptime of the delegate (node stability) as well as community participation. If a delegate is making useful tools like vekexasia, or spending time to answer questions like timbo_slice, you should consider voting for them too
July 23, 2017, 08:12:58 AM
I wish I could buy more.... only added 2744 to my stash 
July 23, 2017, 07:59:58 AM
Also, how do ppl know who they are voting for?
You need to open a webwallet first https://wallet.shiftnrg.org. Send your Shift to your webwallet and make sure to create a secondary passphrase. This is important. Once you have control of your Shift, you can vote from your wallet for the pools and delegates of your choosing. At that point, you will be staking through the pools. In your wallet you can see who you are voting for. Join the Ryver group, you will get faster support there. Feel free to vote for "starlord" if you like
I voted for a few delegates. Do I need to take any additional steps to confirm the votes so that they know where to send the forging share rewards?
Once you vote for a pool, the pool operator has software to manage payouts. Keep in mind each pool operator has his own policy for min payout amount, payout frequency and what percentage of payouts will go to those who voted for the pool. We have a member of the Shift community called Vekexasia who created a very nice tool for optimizing your pool portfolio. You can message him directly on the Ryver chat group.
July 23, 2017, 12:16:37 AM
Also, how do ppl know who they are voting for?
You need to open a webwallet first https://wallet.shiftnrg.org. Send your Shift to your webwallet and make sure to create a secondary passphrase. This is important. Once you have control of your Shift, you can vote from your wallet for the pools and delegates of your choosing. At that point, you will be staking through the pools. In your wallet you can see who you are voting for. Join the Ryver group, you will get faster support there. Feel free to vote for "starlord" if you like
July 22, 2017, 11:12:02 PM
Also, how do ppl know who they are voting for?
You need to open a webwallet first https://wallet.shiftnrg.org. Send your Shift to your webwallet and make sure to create a secondary passphrase. This is important. Once you have control of your Shift, you can vote from your wallet for the pools and delegates of your choosing. At that point, you will be staking through the pools. In your wallet you can see who you are voting for. Join the Ryver group, you will get faster support there. Feel free to vote for "starlord" if you like
I voted for a few delegates. Do I need to take any additional steps to confirm the votes so that they know where to send the forging share rewards?
July 22, 2017, 10:01:44 PM
Also, how do ppl know who they are voting for?
You need to open a webwallet first https://wallet.shiftnrg.org. Send your Shift to your webwallet and make sure to create a secondary passphrase. This is important. Once you have control of your Shift, you can vote from your wallet for the pools and delegates of your choosing. At that point, you will be staking through the pools. In your wallet you can see who you are voting for. Join the Ryver group, you will get faster support there. Feel free to vote for "starlord" if you like
July 22, 2017, 08:46:32 PM
Also, how do ppl know who they are voting for?
July 22, 2017, 07:40:16 PM
Also, how to join a staking pool?
July 22, 2017, 07:29:05 PM
How many people do i need to vote for to enable staking?
July 22, 2017, 11:44:26 AM
Great answers Timbo_Slice!
July 22, 2017, 11:11:38 AM
Anyone can please answer this?
Is 500 Shift worth staking? What sort of returns can I expect every month?
Is 500 Shift worth staking? What sort of returns can I expect every month?
It all depends on which pools you join. All pools payout a little differently. If you can become a delegate, you will make about 1000 Shift per month, but you have to be voted top 101. Most just join pools that are already delegates.
Thanks but I wanted to get an idea like how much return can I expect in general (not exact figures). I know pools payout a particular percentage but overall there must be a range right? Like if ROI is 1 Shift a year from voting with 10k then it's not worth it. That's what I want to know.
It's pretty impossible to tell right now. More pools get voted in every day and as people move funds to and from the exchanges your voting weight, and therefore payout, will change. However, if you go to Vekexasia's neat tool he posted about a few pages ago and plug in an address from the explorer with about 10k, you can see they're earning about 50 Shift/month
https://dpostools.com/SHIFT/holderview/5896893697515518514S
So about 6% return per year if my match is correct. It's not bad, and obviously we all hope Shift will go up in value as well, but it's no GPU miner making ROI in 90 days. Basically if you're already invested, vote for pools and other solid delegates, and it's not a bad idea to buy some and vote for another source of passive income and possible investment appreciation. But don't expect to double your money in a year. To my knowledge, no other DPOS coin would return much more either.
would like to see a dedicated marketing team hired once mainnet is ready. devs shouldnt be handling marketing, devs are for dev.
Marketing is planned once Phantom is running and stable on mainnet. They won't stop anyone from marketing themselves, but the team wants to have a working product before official marketing is done.Thanks a lot. I got the answer I was looking for
July 22, 2017, 11:09:21 AM
Hello. So SHIFT is a fork of Lisk or Ethereum ? In the OP they say is a fork of Ethereum. Where can i find a Slack channel ? Is it one ? what is the total supply of coins at the moment?
It was a fork of Eth but due to 51% attacks switched over the the Lisk codebase. In both cases Shift was had its own blockchain, so not currently connected directly to Lisk, but using the same codebase.
We switched over the Ryver awhile back due to costs associated with Slack. The link to signup is here: https://shiftnrg.ryver.com/application/signup/members/Q3vvIv5azjNuFKl
You can find the link from the website under the Contact tab.
Total supply can be found in the explorer: https://explorer.shiftnrg.org/. Just under 11 million at this point. Inflation is ~10% annually
July 22, 2017, 10:48:01 AM
Hello. So SHIFT is a fork of Lisk or Ethereum ? In the OP they say is a fork of Ethereum. Where can i find a Slack channel ? Is it one ? what is the total supply of coins at the moment?
July 22, 2017, 08:00:56 AM
Anyone can please answer this?
Is 500 Shift worth staking? What sort of returns can I expect every month?
Is 500 Shift worth staking? What sort of returns can I expect every month?
It all depends on which pools you join. All pools payout a little differently. If you can become a delegate, you will make about 1000 Shift per month, but you have to be voted top 101. Most just join pools that are already delegates.
Thanks but I wanted to get an idea like how much return can I expect in general (not exact figures). I know pools payout a particular percentage but overall there must be a range right? Like if ROI is 1 Shift a year from voting with 10k then it's not worth it. That's what I want to know.
It's pretty impossible to tell right now. More pools get voted in every day and as people move funds to and from the exchanges your voting weight, and therefore payout, will change. However, if you go to Vekexasia's neat tool he posted about a few pages ago and plug in an address from the explorer with about 10k, you can see they're earning about 50 Shift/month
https://dpostools.com/SHIFT/holderview/5896893697515518514S
So about 6% return per year if my match is correct. It's not bad, and obviously we all hope Shift will go up in value as well, but it's no GPU miner making ROI in 90 days. Basically if you're already invested, vote for pools and other solid delegates, and it's not a bad idea to buy some and vote for another source of passive income and possible investment appreciation. But don't expect to double your money in a year. To my knowledge, no other DPOS coin would return much more either.
would like to see a dedicated marketing team hired once mainnet is ready. devs shouldnt be handling marketing, devs are for dev.
Marketing is planned once Phantom is running and stable on mainnet. They won't stop anyone from marketing themselves, but the team wants to have a working product before official marketing is done. July 22, 2017, 07:34:03 AM
They've talked about client sided signing before.
If you don't trust the devs then it's easy to run your own node and only transact from there.
July 22, 2017, 02:39:19 AM
This doesn't look good. Still time to fix this, but I'm surprised there was no urgency even when they knew about it
After getting the above response, I asked the devs when the new version of the web wallet will be released. No response so far. I'll post here if I get any.
This needs to be fixed on an urgent basis. After what happened with Parity hack, I don't think I can sleep easy until this is fixed.
Shift also needs a desktop lite client. Web wallets cannot be trusted.
July 22, 2017, 02:10:59 AM
This doesn't look good. Still time to fix this, but I'm surprised there was no urgency even when they knew about it
July 22, 2017, 02:00:54 AM
What Dev Team Wrote on Ryver
Ralf S said:
Hello @here,
Some of you mentioned this post about a warning for LSK, SHIFT, RISE.
https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/2836956
There is no reason to panic, we are aware of that API endpoint and the security risk this could cause. They do have a point, and it is important to repeat: ALWAYS use the OFFICIAL https wallet, if you are not running your own node!
No need to say that we NEVER log input. Some users who lost their keys wish we would though.
We do have a fix for this, to be released in the next wallet update. Where we don't use this endpoint at all, and sign transactions at the client side to broadcast to our main nodes.
That way your private keys are safe, because they aren't sent at all. You can compare it to the way MyEtherWallet works.
We hope this explains the case and answers your questions.
Ralf S said:
Hello @here,
Some of you mentioned this post about a warning for LSK, SHIFT, RISE.
https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/2836956
There is no reason to panic, we are aware of that API endpoint and the security risk this could cause. They do have a point, and it is important to repeat: ALWAYS use the OFFICIAL https wallet, if you are not running your own node!
No need to say that we NEVER log input. Some users who lost their keys wish we would though.
We do have a fix for this, to be released in the next wallet update. Where we don't use this endpoint at all, and sign transactions at the client side to broadcast to our main nodes.
That way your private keys are safe, because they aren't sent at all. You can compare it to the way MyEtherWallet works.
We hope this explains the case and answers your questions.
July 22, 2017, 01:20:12 AM
Can you please post this on Shift Ryver? We need to get a response from them and fix this hole asap if it's still open.
The dev team don't monitor this thread. So no use posting here.
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