Topic: [ANN][SHIFT] The New Web | IPFS/Phantom | ShiftNrg.org Hosted Decentralized! - page 80. (Read 547597 times)

Hi all

I have a few questions concerning shift and its competitors :

(I am fairly new to the crypto community so correct me if I'm wrong please)

Shift wants to decentralize the web and will release Phantom as a dApp SDK at the end of Q2. If I understand correctly Lisk is also building a dApp SDK with release date set to Q4. The developpers from Shift and Lisk both worked on the Crypti project together and then split off starting Shift and Lisk when they saw great potential in the project.

The apps will run as a sidechain to the main blokchain. Developpers can use the currency of the main blockchain on the sidechain app, or create a new currency unique to that sidechain. So what is inherently different about Lisk and Shift? Are they both competing against each other to deliver the SDK platform as fast as possible or is their vision really different?

Ethereum has already released a dApp SDK and there are already a few working sites online. What is the difference with Shift and how will Shift differentiate themselves from a competitor that has already grown to a market cap of 18 billion and is backed by big investors?

As of now, Shifts market cap holds 7.4 million usd, Lisk mc holds 141.6 million usd and Ethereum mc holds 18 billion usd. When Shift releases the Phantom stand-alone SDK at the end of Q2 I see Shift amounting to the mc of Lisk easily. That means Shift could be a x20 ROI. To reach a large market cap the crypto currency needs strong tech and a good marketing plan. Has Shift devised a marketing plan after the release of Phantom yet?

Kind regards,
a fellow Shift investor

This coin is so undervalued it should be a crime.

8 months ago

How long ago was that when most delegates were first registering?

The link leads to a shift account log in

I would be cautious following that link. It's not an official Shift link but has shiftnrg in it. Looks sketchy to me.

The 60 is 60 shift for delegate registration. Right now that's like $37 usd but it was $2 usd when most delegates were first registering.

Go to imugr, upload image then post link

I'm glad you ask - so if you can tell me how to post a screenshot I'll show my node.shiftnrg.online 

60 what? shift or usd?

  I'm in agreement about SHIFT being the most undervalued. I'd like to be a delegate but the 60 it costs would de-leverage me too much. However..if I can share my top cryptos, you might like/donate to my "delegation" funding address. 
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IS ALMOST READY, look at the price, they post something about it in the ryver chat, i love it, this is the most under-valuated coin of all cryptospace, i can't believe DOGE have a    $344M marketcap, and we are under $10M.

No one knows for sure. The team is working on it and prefers to take their time and release a quality product instead of rushing it and releasing a poor product.

-Shift and Maidsafe's final products will be similar I believe. Here's a quote (copy+paste) from Ralf, one of the lead devs, from the Ryver channel;

"Hi, you can't really compare the development of Maid with Shift. But you might be able to compare the results soon. Many coins/devs offer idea's, but they are way to optimistic about getting the work actually done.

I think we are running a realistic project here. Building a bridge to combine todays best web technologies into a product with endless possibilities.

IPFS is an amazing tool for p2p hosting and browsing, and so much more. Take a look at IPLD for example, great future ahead.
LISK has build a great blockchain codebase with dpos consensus, plus the ability to create sidechains for dapps. Grown really stable the last couple of months."

-I'm not sure of if files will be split up or not, but I know the intent is to decentralize web hosting, so the files will be distributed around the network.

-There is no limit on delegates, I think technically there can be any number that's uneven so you can't hit a 50/50 consensus and break off into two chains. For example, I think ARK has 51 and it's also based on the LSK DPOS system. 101 was likely chosen since that's what LSK had and it provided a good opportunity to have a lot of forging spots without being an unreachable number for Shift at the time. Not sure on how Maidsafe will run it. The 101 delegates are mainly for keeping the chain running, they will not be the only ones who can host data. Once Phantom is released I think anyone will be able to host data and earn Shift to some extent. I don't have a direct quote for this one, but I think I remember it being said in the Ryver channel.

-Not sure on this one, but I recall it being discussed in the Ryver channel at one point.

How do Maidsafe and Shift differ a lot? I am not well versed in the technical details, but on the surface Shift sounds like an interesting project.

The Maidsafe website talks about files being split into parts and distributed throughout the network, Shift talks about 101 delegates - are files also split into parts like Maidsafe?

Why is there a limit of 101 delegates? - does Maidsafe also have such a limit? It seems having the files spread across more hosts would be more secure.

I am also wondering, does shift have it's own associated domain suffix? Is there a way that the use of a DNS is not required?

Sorry for potentially naive questions, perhaps they have been already answered but this is quite a large thread.

shift is based on lisk blockchainnot eth or I missed something??  Maid and shift cant rely be compared to each other. They differ in huge ways. Sia and storjoin are more similar to me but maybe thats because Im not that familiar with both. I know that storj is using collered coin approach on counterparty and is planning to shift to ethereum and is holding a ico or is planning one. Dont know why sia had a major surge but I thought it was a lot cheaper to store data on sia network than storj maybe thats why they decided to switch to eth. So as far as I know shift is more focussed on dec web but does not have a 100% garantee data will be stored forever while the ambition of maid is much more but still has a long way to go and therefore a lot of people see it as a to ambitious pipedream. Im a firm believer in maid but your patients are being tested with this project on the other hand if it succeed it will be huge and I think project like sia en storj will no longer be relevant since data storage will be much cheaper on maid than with their approach. I see room for shift and maid to exist together since they differ a lot and shift uses tech that is already available today. Not that familiar with shift like with maid so dont take my word for it still holding a fair amount of shift and am a supporter of the project recommended several people as a good long term project some time ago. Still a good entry point I think with todays price

big hodler of maidsafe and shift here.... any idea on the volume spike today? how is dev progress going?

I know maid is non-blockchain and shift is ethereum blockchain. what other ways do the two projects differ?

also any other coins that are doing the same thing as shift and maid? how similar is siacoin and storj ?

Yep, SHIFT will become very useful ! ! ! 

I can't wait till it's released! Also, price is already at $0.54 (  0.00026814 BTC).We could expect a price of atleast $2 before the release and after SHIFT get's recognized only the sky is the limit! 

Looks like my government are going to police the internet: http://www.digitalspy.com/tech/news/a828716/internet-policies-conservative-uk-general-election-2017/

When this goes live, it's gonna be worth a fuck ton of money.

Yep I'm on there mostly as a lurker. Guess I just wish the thread had more posts but I guess it's much easier to talk on ryver

Go to ryver https://shiftnrg.ryver.com/application/signup/members/Q3vvIv5azjNuFKl

Devs and people talk there everyday.