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legendary
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And also in saying that, the voting assets will be decided by silk council, which is currently in formation to provide full public transparency of all funds paid for development.
    The assets will be chosen by council based on public opinion.
   There is much work to do still. (-;

I understand you but basically we're just recreating what we see not to work in the real world. By giving vote per silkcoin capacity we're giving the minority the right to lead the vote.

I don't know. I think this is a really important point. Maybe I'm too idealistic because I believe in the disruptive power of BTC and cryptocurrencies.
We have something valuable in our hand and continuing the old order will not help us in my opinion.

I repeat that's really hard to find a suitable and innovative solution given these conditions.

Example:
One's an anarchyst: there will be election. He has choices (X party, B party, F party and so on) but he doesn't feel represented because he believes in anarchy. What is he going to do? He will not vote beacuse he sees that no matter of his choice he's gonna lose anyway.

Silkcoin related example:
Please don't misunderstand me, now we're voting on a website name. But one day we might vote for something more relevant. And yes of course now we're testing the platform.
If we take the previous example I made and I know that there's a quite long rich list I might not going to vote since my voting "power" is so little compared to that minority.

Then it seems to me we're gonna have an aristocracy here. Which can be fine since I could trust the devs supposedly they have the biggest bags. But of that I can't be certain, we might have everything or everyone behind these addresses.

I don't know if you can see what I mean but, for the last time, recreating a lobbying system in here is not gonna work.

I do believe that cryptocurrency must evolve in a complete different way from things like banking system, democracy and so forth.

But, maybe, as I said I'm really too idealistic.

My 2 silk
Smiley
hero member
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And also in saying that, the voting assets will be decided by silk council, which is currently in formation to provide full public transparency of all funds paid for development.
    The assets will be chosen by council based on public opinion.
   There is much work to do still. (-;
hero member
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Merit: 505
Thanks ttoroie.
My signature comes from the XXIV Canto of Dante's Inferno (Divina Commedia). That's my leading principle in life.

Anyway...

About the vote system: the platform is great but the voting system based on money capacity is idiotic from my point of view.
This means rich people wins. It's like recreating lobbies.
For me it doesn't work.
I would say one vote per address but then we have the same problem since one can create infinite addresses.

That's the main problem of the poll so far. Does this make sense?

  Understood.   But the purpose of the poll is to redefine donations.  And yes recreating lobbying.  The benefit being support of development.   More votes.  More silk for Dev.  

Others launch coins with icos or ipos where the investor has absolutely no say in what goes into the coin.  This will be integrative investing where the investor donates to the area of interest.  

   Aka lobbying..  and the House of Silk.  Idiotic? Well no.  Idiotic would be someone who has 0 vested interest in silk guiding it's path of development.
newbie
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Thanks ttoroie.
My signature comes from the XXIV Canto of Dante's Inferno (Divina Commedia). That's my leading principle in life.

Anyway...

About the vote system: the platform is great but the voting system based on money capacity is idiotic from my point of view.
This means rich people wins. It's like recreating lobbies.
For me it doesn't work.
I would say one vote per address but then we have the same problem since one can create infinite addresses.

That's the main problem of the poll so far. Does this make sense?


I think this has been discussed previously but maybe it would be good to clarify where the proceeds of the voting "fee" goes. I.E for this vote currently happening do the proceeds of the vote go into a bigger pool to pay development bounties? Who controls the fund? does it just go straight to developers?


acquafredda there really is no way to control voting so the silk community would have to decide which is the best way to go.

1 vote per address (but you can create infinite addresses)
pay per vote (could be a means to raise funds for further development but means that the silk rich list gets what they want) need to decide how funds are used.
1 vote per address weighted by funds with some minimum age (prevents infinite addresses from voting, encourages some staking, somewhat limits influence from rich list, doesn't fund anything)

may be other options but these are really the only options i see.

full member
Activity: 150
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Ad Libertas!
Polls and Voting in the Silkcoin version v1.1.0.20


It's so awesome to see vote.silkcoin take the lead!  I just think "poll" is so boring.  "Vote!" has power!
full member
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Ad Libertas!
A friend and I have a card at our disposal.  It is an MSI R4870.  We aren't technical people at all with regards to mining; never dunnit before Smiley

We don't know what coin it would be best-suited to mine, and we don't know how to configure it.

Bitcoinasourus, is it possible for us to mail it somewhere, have you or someone else put it to work, and send some fair amount of the resulting SILK to our wallets?  We know it won't be much, and that's okay.
How many SILK would this card produce per day, on average, if configured to mine the coin it is best suited for?

Would you be interested in something like the following arrangement?:

We send you the card
You configure it to mine whatever coin is appropriate in this pool
You keep however much of the SILK it produces that you think is fair for yourself and send the rest to us
We trust that you have reasonable/fair judgment as far as how much you keep to offset energy/time. 

Thanks.  We want to help support this but only have one card and no idea how to use it Smiley
Peace,

I currently have an empty rig setup that can support up to four cards.  I may be interested in running a "SILK Harvesting Service" for those of you with spare video cards.  I'll let you know.  After my move, priority #1 will be the reddit tipbot.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1481
Thanks ttoroie.
My signature comes from the XXIV Canto of Dante's Inferno (Divina Commedia). That's my leading principle in life.

Anyway...

About the vote system: the platform is great but the voting system based on money capacity is idiotic from my point of view.
This means rich people wins. It's like recreating lobbies.
For me it doesn't work.
I would say one vote per address but then we have the same problem since one can create infinite addresses.

That's the main problem of the poll so far. Does this make sense?
full member
Activity: 232
Merit: 100
Polls and Voting in the Silkcoin version v1.1.0.20


Keep up the great work!!

What is the process of getting an idea/objective to vote on?

Who decides what we are voting on?
hero member
Activity: 480
Merit: 500
development is looking good as always Smiley.  Thank you devs!
sr. member
Activity: 560
Merit: 250
Messages in the Silkcoin version v1.1.0.21



Did you see the richlist too? Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250
Hi everyone,
I am a Silkcoin early adopter.
I got burnt after June 24th since I trusted the old dev.
At the time I was a heavy bag holder, not anymore.

I followed in the shadow the new development and I'm finding it good.

I tried the new beta wallet and it seems working pretty well.

If you deliver this out lots of nice things will happen.

I'll just wait and continue staking for the love of the camel.

Thank you to everyone who made this new beginning possible.

Welcome back Coldwater

Enjoy the new ride as your signature says:
And we emerged to gaze upon the stars again...
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1481
Hi everyone,
I am a Silkcoin early adopter.
I got burnt after June 24th since I trusted the old dev.
At the time I was a heavy bag holder, not anymore.

I followed in the shadow the new development and I'm finding it good.

I tried the new beta wallet and it seems working pretty well.

If you deliver this out lots of nice things will happen.

I'll just wait and continue staking for the love of the camel.

Thank you to everyone who made this new beginning possible.
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
Looks like the multipool is working well, i might even consider getting another rig!

Yes
I just got the first payments from the pool  Grin 600 SILK Cheesy
So I guess it's working
We'll have to see what's the outcome over a day or so

Its getting going! Lots of tweaking to do. Im pretty sure we will end up with a custom code job for our permanent pool. As this is a livechains pool, so I have limited access to the scripts. I got my silk mining, so my goal is a miner friendly pool! I have some issues with the current setup.



I setup a twitter account for the silk pool. Updates will be posted there before anywhere else. @silkpool to follow. Speaking of updates. Some coins are going to be swapped out some time soon here. So the pool might go down for a little bit while that goes on.

sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250
Looks like the multipool is working well, i might even consider getting another rig!

Yes
I just got the first payments from the pool  Grin 600 SILK Cheesy
So I guess it's working
We'll have to see what's the outcome over a day or so
sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250
I've tried the new messaging system from the wallet,    
just loaded a random SILK address and typed HELLO

Guess what I've got back

sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250
Messages in the Silkcoin version v1.1.0.21

sr. member
Activity: 404
Merit: 250
Polls and Voting in the Silkcoin version v1.1.0.20
legendary
Activity: 1918
Merit: 1001
Looks like the multipool is working well, i might even consider getting another rig!
hero member
Activity: 480
Merit: 500
Version 1.20 of the wallet works great
Just voted, that's a handy feature to have
Just looked at the rich list
WOW

Agreed, nice job on the 1.0.2 beta.  Can't wait to get the full release and mac wallet Smiley
sr. member
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Merit: 250
It seems that there's a new one v1.1.0.21-beta
https://github.com/mbishop75/silkcoin/releases/tag/v1.1.0.21-beta
I'm trying it now, just made a transfer and it worked OK

Well done  mbishop75
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