Topic: [ANN][TAO] Tao, AltMarket & FanMix - Real Solutions for the Music Industry! - page 19. (Read 93044 times)

I think that's a somewhat apples to oranges comparison because they work a bit differently, but I tell you what. Bryce has just announced there's going to be a Hangout on Friday night and he's invited me and a few of the other community members to join in. If the livestream doesn't answer your questions, I'll do my best in a reply here over the weekend.

I'll post more details about it later when I have them.

Then comes the next question - Why would artist use a service that apparently eats half their earnings for a worse user experience, when Kickstarter and Patreon charge way less for less hassle?

Your "substance" was directed at Bryce, so why would I answer it? I am not Bryce. I haven't misrepresented anything at any point. I have no insider information; I relay what I read in the slack and or the discord so people who are not there know the latest info. My statements are all phrased carefully to indicate the level of certainty I have about the details of whatever I'm relaying, if you can't pick up on that nuance that's not my problem.

The initial coin sales are not, to my knowledge [see the language I use to indicate my level of understanding of what I'm talking about?]  going to be restricted to Tao. That is only in the open market afterwards when Tao becomes the base for trading pairs. This is the same as BTC. People want to buy an alt, they need BTC. Same thing. The'll be able to buy it right there on AM using their bank accounts and then buy ODBcoin or whatever. And it can be an automated trade with a simplified interface so they just type in how many USD they want to spend to buy an artist's coin and the dollars are converted to Tao and then to the artist coin without them even seeing it.

Currently anyone participating in a coin sale can hook their bank account up to the site via Plaid and use their local fiat currency (USD and I think CAD for now) as well as BTC and ETH to purchase the coin like ODBcoin. I bought some and it was very simple, as it should be to be easy for non-crypto people which I'll remind you is the target audience.

Why would they use Patreon?  Because the fans will want to buy what the artist is selling, so if the artist says AltMarket, or ODBcoin.com or Patreon, that's where they go. Is that not obvious? I mean, really?

Virtual servers can be scaled. And obviously in the proposed scenario of a sudden influx of volume, it would be up and running, so good for you. You've opened your mind to the reality of what's to come. You're getting there.  

Bryce. Both cases are currently active, hence the bolded green font.

https://ibb.co/42k9VKv

So, care to explain what happened before we do it for you?

I'll just note that you've in no way responded to the actually substance of the post.

. I want you to spend money to get the records.

It's been fun. 

Yeah except both cases are clearly marked "active" 1/10

You're here replying in an effort to misdirect from your fraud.

Here the link: https://kcoj.kycourts.net/kyecourts/login/guestlogin

Anyone can plug your name in and see for themselves.

This thread is not self moderated *specifically* so crypto morons will leave a standing record of just how stupid they areally are. 47 pages of gold so far.

Next time don’t get people all excited about an open warrant when the cases are “Inactive”.

Your capacity for fraud seems better than mine. Bored now.

You think I'm Bryce. 😂😂🤣

You're fucking hilarious and so confused. You will be SO mad when you realize how much of a dumbass you are.

Yes, I'm tired enough of your foolishness that I'm resorting to name calling. Deal with it. 

Lmfao

If you go to page 23 of this thread you will see this obvious socket puppet of Weiner already clumsily denied being so. He also denied the fraud he committed against his dead parents meager estate. Look it up, Boone County in Kentucky. Also looks to be an active warrant out there too, which is for no-showing when he was to answer up to the court about his theft.

Well, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that quite a few of those statements actually were made by you, Bryce, but let's leave that aside.

Yes, this project has an unfortunate tendency to be consistently juuuuust ahead of a major break-out. Just stick around a little more, buy or fund a little more stuff, wait a little longer. We'll SOON be mooning. And then have a completely undeserved spat of bad luck due to circumstances completely out of your control. It's the SEC, it's the exchanges, it's your clients, it's the market, it's the hired developers, it's the partners, it's the community not doing enough or doing the wrong thing or moving in the wrong direction. You never do anything wrong. You're always ahead of the curve, the smartest people around, massively influential and just need the rest of the world to see your brilliance.

Meanwhile, you tend to consistently misrepresent the progress and/or history of the project, by claiming that the raising of $100k instead of $30M was intentional, that all sorts of things were intentionally built as "experiments" or "proofs-of-concept" rather than, well, just not working or being good ideas in the first place. That AltMarket will be coming SOON, when it must have been completely obvious even at the time that it was no where near finished (July 4th? Really?).

As for the Tao-exclusivity of future sales - that doesn't sound like it would help sales? Why would any artist agree to tie themselves to the price of a basically untraded cryptocurrency? Why would fans go through the hassle of getting TAO instead of just joining a fanclub or Patreon or something similar?

What makes you think that AltMarket could handle the sudden influx of volume when it can't even get up and running in the first place?

First off, you are basically representing three separate statements written by at least three different individuals as all being my statements, which seems disingenuous to me. So perhaps you are projecting.

As for the time frame, from what I had recently heard when I posted upthread, it was currently being given final tests by a small number of invited community members, and was likely to be open to the general public within the immediate future. I didn't have a date, so I purposefully tried to write a somewhat imprecise statement with some wiggle room, and phrased to make it clear this wasn't an exact date. 

A different community member, also not knowing an exact date, wrote their own imprecise statement (as precise as he felt he could be given the level of info either of us have) and gave himself more generous leeway by saying "by April." That could mean tomorrow or it could mean three weeks from now, I don't know exactly. But I don't feel either of those statements are particularly disingenuous.

The ONLY reason the AltMarket isn't already open for business is because they've made it this far on a shoestring budget - unlike so many token ICOs that raised tens of millions and have done far less or been outright scams. The ODBcoin sale was supposed to be very heavily promoted and hyped to bring in a crowd of hiphop fans new to crypto, raising money for YDB and his mom, aka ODB's widow, and a 50% split with AltMarket. This money was to help finish the last legs of the work on the exchange and launch it with a splash last month, but the Wu-Tang Clan and YDB never did anything to promote the coin sale, so it didn't bring in the expected money and Bryce had to raise funds elsewhere.

From my understanding, it was ODB's widow who got cold feet at the last minute and refused to sign off on promoting it.  So the sale was very restricted and only 13,808 coins were made.  Just $138.08 would've gotten you 1% off all of those suuuuper scarce officially licensed ODB/Wu-Tang coins, but I'm guessing you missed out on that. 

5 year exclusive contracts, my friend. The next artist offerings will be coming soon, with several more this year and everything set now to make them each a big success. Each of which will be exclusively traded against Tao, and protected by those 5 year exclusives. 

Bryce raised the money he needed even if it was later than planned, so the AltMarket will open in the near future, regardless of what the exact date is. 



$30M? OMG are you seriously going back to that semantic nonsense? I answered this months ago the last time you brought up this disingenuous interpretation of a 2016 press release:

"AltMarket should be fully open to the public for trading within approximately the next week."

I'm not sure what your measure of "approximately" is, but saying "approximately next week" and by that meaning "within just over a month" seems a bit disingenious.

Almost as disingenious as saying "we intentionally limited the presale to $100k" when you mean "we tried having a presale for $30M but only raised $100k".

No, it has not been changed. The community member who posted that wrote "Alt.Market is currently being tested by community members and is slated to be available to the general public by April. Some screenshots have leaked to Slack/Discord members and there is a lot of buzz about how sveldt and intuitive the interface is"

So in other words people are already using it (not you) and it will be available -- by -- April. Which obviously would mean in March. 

It's cute how closely you pay attention to what's going on, but then try to act all dismissive of it.

FYI this has now changed to "April", according to a recent reddit post.

Tao has just been listed on qTrade: https://qtrade.io/market/TAO_BTC

https://twitter.com/qTradeio/status/1100824440315826182


AltMarket should be fully open to the public for trading within approximately the next week, and there's also a mobile wallet coming in the near future. Been a long wait, but it's about to all pay off.