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Jefferson you really do need to stop giving these idiots
a response, you don't really have to.
When the foundation has something to say say it then and only then.

If two or three are unhappy oh well can't please everyone
let them take their voot sell up and get out.
I bet you they won't

and NO your credibility is completley intact as you are just the PR!

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I disagree with your statement as I am not the same old name that has been fudding about Voot. I posted Voot's situation yesterday, and that's probably a neutral statement that came from me.

I still haven't heard from Dr. Snazz with regards to my questions... the community can be the judge.

It's always "do not have an update."
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UPDATE FROM SMOKE TEAM :



Never received any response from SMOKE regarding if I am allowed to release the .onion address.

But honestly, at this point I don't see why we should keep hiding it when it is fully developed. It is just a matter of management that is needed to fully launch the service.

So here it is, the .onion address for the anon exchange:

Consider it officially released.

The initiative shown by this community to form the Voot foundation is astounding, you guys are truly the ones who will save this coin.

Do note that this i still the beta for testing/reviewing and not the final version.

Pls confirm this Jeff.


Well after taking another look it does seem like it is just for testing/reviewing for the public. It does not seem like the wallets are set up yet and there is still some misbranding on the site showing "ecoinstrader" or something. I havent heard back from the devs yet so I am not exactly sure on this.

Comment on this and your statement regarding to this? I want a clearer picture... It says that the exchange is "done"

How many "typo" or "mispoke" excuses am I going to keep seeing?

Again, I am not fudding, I want to find out the truth.

And I've heard that Voot or MsCollec reached out to satoshi00000001 on twitter? (can anyone confirm this?)

do not have any update on this point
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its funny how the same old tired names are comming out again trashing voot
just like they did the last time that voot lost all its value.

When is the voot community going to stand up and be counted and just run these
fudders out of town?

This same crap started with mscollec whihc was utter rubbish innuendo by noobs
and select few members whihc had absolutley no facts and not even in the realm of
reality and now you are all letting them do the same thing again.

This is what I have to say to all these so called honest question holders

listen if youre not prepared to wait for genuine foundation statements
and are intent on making people panic because this exchange is going to directly
challenge all the other exchanges, I have a solution just sell up and get the fuck out.

We the voot community don't want you here you are not welcome

there are thousands of us here holding voot waiting for a legitimate plan
from this very new foundation and you the very very few not even upto 8 complainers
and fudsters and trolls can just piss off.

GO AWAY WE DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR SO CALLED CONCERNS!!
GET IT!! Tongue
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theNow the picture is the same for all of altcoins.
Its possible that the PnD groups are goin out and start collecting BTC.

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yes that is possible
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I posted my question 3 posts above. Care to clarify that ordeal? I want this to be as transparent as possible so the whole community can get the TRUTH, because all we've gotten was pretty much nothing.

I'm not looking for an automated customer service statement that I just read from your post.

Remember, whatever you say now will make an impact on Voot. Your credibility is on the line.
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VootCoin PR/IRC Admin
You still haven't answered my question. You're putting it aside. Be public about it and write it on here so everyone can see it.

PM me your questions in a list and i will get them answered.

The more community members like yourself work with us , the faster we can get back to you. I understand your concerns and being upset with the current situation. Just as you i work hard for my BTC. Last week was a 60hr work week for me. I am in the same boat as you and the rest of investors. Just be assured that the team and devs are working to the best of our abilities.
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You still haven't answered my question. You're putting it aside. Be public about it and write it on here so everyone can see it.
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The team has proposed that devs/team use google+ as a direct contact method. I am excited to see that we will be clearing up the miscommunication and will have a way to contact each other directly by PM to our mobile devices. This will helps tons to not only let us communicate, but get the proper information out to the community faster ! Smiley


We also have a trello set up for bouncing ideas and community questions off each other.
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UPDATE FROM SMOKE TEAM :



Never received any response from SMOKE regarding if I am allowed to release the .onion address.

But honestly, at this point I don't see why we should keep hiding it when it is fully developed. It is just a matter of management that is needed to fully launch the service.

So here it is, the .onion address for the anon exchange:

Consider it officially released.

The initiative shown by this community to form the Voot foundation is astounding, you guys are truly the ones who will save this coin.

Do note that this i still the beta for testing/reviewing and not the final version.

Pls confirm this Jeff.


Well after taking another look it does seem like it is just for testing/reviewing for the public. It does not seem like the wallets are set up yet and there is still some misbranding on the site showing "ecoinstrader" or something. I havent heard back from the devs yet so I am not exactly sure on this.

Comment on this and your statement regarding to this? I want a clearer picture... It says that the exchange is "done"

How many "typo" or "mispoke" excuses am I going to keep seeing?

Again, I am not fudding, I want to find out the truth.

And I've heard that Voot or MsCollec reached out to satoshi00000001 on twitter? (can anyone confirm this?)
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Anyone sending money to this exchange is asked to get his money stolen.

Everything about Voot people this far has been sloppy and shady to say the least.

Nobody knows exactly who is running Btc-e either but still it is one of the most trustworthy exchanges.

As if Voot Foundation or devs have done anything to gain trust from anybody. With all the twitter saga a lot of people lost a ton of $

Jefferson , whale123, and I have done nothing to be distrusted (We are 100% volunteer ) and honestly neither has the main devs. Do you realize Mscollec and SMOKE have received deaths threats over this matter ? FOR THE SECOND TIME. This is a world revolutionary idea. You expect the implemented features to be developed in the snap of your fingers? These things take time trial and error. When people stop panic selling and totally flipping out when one thing doesn't go to plan then things like this wont happen.

If you were in MsCollec's shoes you may feel differently about these kind of threats. A death threat is not something to joke about, not EVER.


In regards to the stolen comment , that is your own personal FUD opinion. You must have had all your BTC in Mt. Gox huh?

Please stop crying me a river "Doctor" no one is going to kill MsCollec. That's your FUD and a load of bollocks. I also pointed out to you a few pages back about your attitude and lack of grace. You have no PR ability and aren't doing this coin any good by calling serious investor questions FUD and doing your own ad hominem attacks against them. You need to go even before MsCollec and that's saying something.

Your assertion that this exchange is "world revolutionary" is also crap, there is nothing special about it in the least. Nothing.

So I will say this one more time and throw it out into the community for consideration. Let Jefferson and others find new development blood for this coin and:

1.) Cut ties with Smoke for good. Nothing they are working on matters for or is related to this coin and the constant hope they will deliver something is destroying the value and investor trust.

2.) MsCollec needs to go. Turn the source code over to new *VERIFIED BY CRYTPO-ASIAN* developers who actually want to work on this coin, instead of being torn between two. (MsCollec has an innate conflict of interest with SYNC coin and I IMHO believe a lot of the stuff that smoke is doing is actually meant for SYNC not VOOT).

3.) The foundation thing is good, as long as the same people who have brought you here aren't on it. There needs to be a center of authority and decision making. They can listen to the masses for ideas but in the end everything needs a leader who can make a decision and move forward.

So let Jefferson talk to his developer buddies, I know a few too. See if they are willing to go through crypto-asian validation and then regroup and attack. If that happens I am back with a few more BTCs myself and in. I really do believe this is a decent coin and way too undervalued, but it's going no where but 0.00000001 sats under the current dev team. The BS is just too much.


A serious investor will see through the FUD. If thats your opinion i can agree to disagree Smiley Im here for the better of the coin, and have always had a positive outlook on voot, and the voot devs. Nothing will happen overnight and the quick profit small hands need to see that. I encourage you to be active in our IRC channels #vootcoin and #voot-dev. We are making lots of good progress and getting lots of questions answered in there rather than bury good info on the thread. Tensions are high, everyone needs to take a deep breath and know that devs and team are working hard. Theres no reason to stress on the day to day price. As MsCollec Himself has said this is a longterm coin not your typical PnD Smiley We the team and Devs also have real life things that take some time away from crypto. I only wish i could be superhuman and here 24/7.

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So let Jefferson talk to his developer buddies, I know a few too. See if they are willing to go through crypto-asian validation and then regroup and attack. If that happens I am back with a few more BTCs myself and in. I really do believe this is a decent coin and way too undervalued, but it's going no where but 0.00000001 sats under the current dev team. The BS is just too much.

+1

beside cloud, market and anon exchange, the #1 priority must be to find new dev(s), jefferson told about 2 friends of him, hope he (and them) can come on the #voot-dev, that foundation is really what we needed, they need to discuss together and make everything clear.

For the moment it's going nowhere as you say
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Anyone sending money to this exchange is asked to get his money stolen.

Everything about Voot people this far has been sloppy and shady to say the least.

Nobody knows exactly who is running Btc-e either but still it is one of the most trustworthy exchanges.

As if Voot Foundation or devs have done anything to gain trust from anybody. With all the twitter saga a lot of people lost a ton of $

Jefferson , whale123, and I have done nothing to be distrusted (We are 100% volunteer ) and honestly neither has the main devs. Do you realize Mscollec and SMOKE have received deaths threats over this matter ? FOR THE SECOND TIME. This is a world revolutionary idea. You expect the implemented features to be developed in the snap of your fingers? These things take time trial and error. When people stop panic selling and totally flipping out when one thing doesn't go to plan then things like this wont happen.


In regards to the stolen comment , that is your own personal FUD opinion. You must have had all your BTC in Mt. Gox huh?

Please stop crying me a river "Doctor" no one is going to kill MsCollec. That's your FUD and a load of bollocks. I also pointed out to you a few pages back about your attitude and lack of grace. You have no PR ability and aren't doing this coin any good by calling serious investor questions FUD and doing your own ad hominem attacks against them. You need to go even before MsCollec and that's saying something.

Your assertion that this exchange is "world revolutionary" is also crap, there is nothing special about it in the least. Nothing.

So I will say this one more time and throw it out into the community for consideration. Let Jefferson and others find new development blood for this coin and:

1.) Cut ties with Smoke for good. Nothing they are working on matters for or is related to this coin and the constant hope they will deliver something is destroying the value and investor trust.

2.) MsCollec needs to go. Turn the source code over to new *VERIFIED BY CRYTPO-ASIAN* developers who actually want to work on this coin, instead of being torn between two. (MsCollec has an innate conflict of interest with SYNC coin and I IMHO believe a lot of the stuff that smoke is doing is actually meant for SYNC not VOOT).

3.) The foundation thing is good, as long as the same people who have brought you here aren't on it. There needs to be a center of authority and decision making. They can listen to the masses for ideas but in the end everything needs a leader who can make a decision and move forward.

So let Jefferson talk to his developer buddies, I know a few too. See if they are willing to go through crypto-asian validation and then regroup and attack. If that happens I am back with a few more BTCs myself and in. I really do believe this is a decent coin and way too undervalued, but it's going no where but 0.00000001 sats under the current dev team. The BS is just too much.
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Bagholders will lose? Remember the btc bagholders from 2010. I´m pretty sure they don´t lose.  Grin

The main problem is that here will maybe 5-6 coins which will be used in the future. All others are scam or good wishes which will fail.

Voot looks pretty interesting a month ago and I hold more than 100k at this time. I´m glad that I´m out without a loss and I will take a look on this in the next days/weeks.

I reall hope that the this coin with his great name( and good marketing like last month) has the chance to come back. I will may buy some if I can see that things really going on in an acceptable time frame. I think other investors will think the same. Wish you all the best.
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And you gave them the bounty for a "completed" exchange?

Guys just an FYI on the escrow at least. The escrow was setup to be paid out in 3 stages. (Exchange/Market/Cloud - 33.3% of available coins for each paid to the Smoke guys) I turned full control of the escrow over to whale123 with Maidek acknowledging that fact. So as far as that goes I do not believe that Jefferson or MsCollec could release the funds on their own unless whale123 allowed it. The escrow was specifically designed to *not* allow MsCollec access to it, so I don't think that happened. Whale would have to confirm.

Just FYI on that point.



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Definition of 'Bag Holder'

"Symbolically, the investor is left holding a bag full of worthless material, representing worthless stock [...]
There are several reasons this might happen, such as neglecting an underperforming portfolio, an investor not wanting to admit a mistake, or just plain hope that the stock will recover. Setting limits on losses and having a good exit strategy are ways to avoid this situation. "

http://www.investopedia.com/terms/b/bag-holder.asp

This market is super hard. If you fail in the altcoin market you will never recover again. It's just too much resistance in the market to ever invest into this coin again. There is just too much competition. It's much smarter and easier to find a newer coin that didn't fuck up. People will go over to new and clean coins once they see what happened.


I don't want to FUD but help the people to understand how the market works and hopefully help them to avoid doing the same mistake again. I lost money as well but didn't want to end up as a bag holder.

Just take a look at the situation at cryptcoin. It's almost the same situation over there.

Good luck to everybody!
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Now the picture is the same for all of altcoins.
Its possible that the PnD groups are goin out and start collecting BTC.
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I find it funny that all the Newbie accounts are posting FUD and saying we are all bagholders and all these other outlandish ridiculous things.


When if you look at credible long term members they have a very positive attitude and they can actually see the work that is being accomplished. They are the ones in IRC talking and asking questions before they go blowing up this ANN with crap.
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