Voted for this shower of shit.
I say this because the whole organisation of the exchange release and who runs it in the future is a disaster. MsCollec and SmokeTeam between them have royally dropped the ball.
If the community takes on the exchange it absolutely has to take ownership of the code, the whole site. Everything, and no involvement from Smoke or MsCollec at all.
I personally wouldn't trust using the exchange with any of them involved.
So how do we get it? They proposed we buy it? I thought MsCollec paid for them to develop it from community funds? What exactly is the story here?
Unless we can take full control of it I say fuck it, fork the coin, change it's name(VOOT has been dragged through the dirt enough).
Get new devs, a new team and let's start a new coin run by honest people.
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August 14, 2014, 12:35:33 AM
August 13, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
The anon exchange is not very important its hard to start an exchange, get recognition, pick up trading volume...especially if your name is VOOT.
You guys should focus on restarting this coin, new dev, new plan.
You guys should focus on restarting this coin, new dev, new plan.
+1, we need new dev team, vootcloud and vootmarket asap
August 13, 2014, 11:42:45 PM
The anon exchange is not very important its hard to start an exchange, get recognition, pick up trading volume...especially if your name is VOOT.
You guys should focus on restarting this coin, new dev, new plan.
You guys should focus on restarting this coin, new dev, new plan.
August 13, 2014, 11:38:10 PM
what does "Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven" mean in practice? What are the major drawbacks?
price goes down, maybe
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August 13, 2014, 11:01:23 PM
what does "Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven" mean in practice? What are the major drawbacks?
August 13, 2014, 10:35:05 PM
So as this coin enters its final death spiral, everyone's brilliant plan seems to be to raise the level of infighting.
I'm sure that will turn things around. Excellent approach.
I'm sure that will turn things around. Excellent approach.
August 13, 2014, 10:32:17 PM
This event happened as people were scrambling and it appeared an exchange would not be ready for the bounty deadline. This was not planned. It was decided upon at the spur of the moment by jefferson and everyone involved in the IRC channel during this time of panic. As said, this is only temporary. We needed to form a community bond in order to work together, instead of being fed lies passed down from the devs to the PR team, putting a lot of stress on PR and investors thinking they were lying. At the moment VOOT has no dev. What VOOT has is us working together.
my point of view is very simple.personally, i don't care if "It was decided upon at the spur of the moment...".
you or any other so called voot foundation members can not speak on my behalf.
I DID NOT GET TO VOTE any one of you in.
I understand your point of view but we need to make everything clear
-MsCollec paid smoketeam for AnonEX and Cloud
-MsCollec called jefferson as PR man, jefferson recruited whale
i don't think so. from what i recall, whale contacted MsCollec for twitter management duties and MsCollec granted it. and, who knew whale would lock MsCollec out of twitter? amazing.
-On IRC, MsCollec told that he don't want to be involved in voot anymore (correct me if i'm wrong) , but he paid smoketeam so I hope he can still help a bit to clarify the situation and help with the features he paid for
So who is legitimate in the story? Who got the keys? Seems that it's MsCollec...
August 13, 2014, 10:27:06 PM
For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will need to quote my own post.
As axedcode is writing we have no official leader that's giving directions. Sncs is more of a founder and has helped getting us organized.
Saw an earlier post where a guy was disappointed on how the whole foundation project came alive.
-Edit and you above
Well this is not something that have been planned, these are people who have been active during this storm and really care about Voot.
We all have different backgrounds and are working together for the best of Voot. Isn't that good enough?
oh! so you mean i don't care about voot. nice.
no. it's not good enough. if founding of the foundation was transparent and all members of voot community were given the opportunity to have their inputs in the matter then it would be more then good enough for me.
We are not closing any doors, we are here, meet us in irc, send us questions, send ideas.
More people will be needed in the foundation.
you(all of the so called vf members) have locked the door from inside. so far you and axedcode are clearly not willing to do things the right way. both of you aren't open to give up the power by repeating each others words: "More people will be needed in the foundation."
August 13, 2014, 09:52:44 PM
This event happened as people were scrambling and it appeared an exchange would not be ready for the bounty deadline. This was not planned. It was decided upon at the spur of the moment by jefferson and everyone involved in the IRC channel during this time of panic. As said, this is only temporary. We needed to form a community bond in order to work together, instead of being fed lies passed down from the devs to the PR team, putting a lot of stress on PR and investors thinking they were lying. At the moment VOOT has no dev. What VOOT has is us working together.
my point of view is very simple.personally, i don't care if "It was decided upon at the spur of the moment...".
you or any other so called voot foundation members can not speak on my behalf.
I DID NOT GET TO VOTE any one of you in.
I understand your point of view but we need to make everything clear
-MsCollec paid smoketeam for AnonEX and Cloud
-MsCollec called jefferson as PR man, jefferson recruited whale
-On IRC, MsCollec told that he don't want to be involved in voot anymore (correct me if i'm wrong) , but he paid smoketeam so I hope he can still help a bit to clarify the situation and help with the features he paid for
So who is legitimate in the story? Who got the keys? Seems that it's MsCollec...
August 13, 2014, 09:48:05 PM
For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will need to quote my own post.
As axedcode is writing we have no official leader that's giving directions. Sncs is more of a founder and has helped getting us organized.
Saw an earlier post where a guy was disappointed on how the whole foundation project came alive.
-Edit and you above
Well this is not something that have been planned, these are people who have been active during this storm and really care about Voot.
We all have different backgrounds and are working together for the best of Voot. Isn't that good enough?
We are not closing any doors, we are here, meet us in irc, send us questions, send ideas.
More people will be needed in the foundation.
August 13, 2014, 09:39:16 PM
This event happened as people were scrambling and it appeared an exchange would not be ready for the bounty deadline. This was not planned. It was decided upon at the spur of the moment by jefferson and everyone involved in the IRC channel during this time of panic. As said, this is only temporary. We needed to form a community bond in order to work together, instead of being fed lies passed down from the devs to the PR team, putting a lot of stress on PR and investors thinking they were lying. At the moment VOOT has no dev. What VOOT has is us working together.
my point of view is very simple.personally, i don't care if "It was decided upon at the spur of the moment...".
you or any other so called voot foundation members can not speak on my behalf.
I DID NOT GET TO VOTE any one of you in.
August 13, 2014, 09:19:27 PM
Just for clarification: There is no VOOT Foundation leader. Myself, sncs, and 4 others are equally involved in forming the foundation. There will be no leader that has not been transparently decided upon by you. The ultimate leaders are everyone that wants this coin to move forward.
axedcode you are doing a good job and the same with other PR representatives, please community do not look at our posts with any malice we believe that the meeting was just a simple discussion about development it was conducted when we released the PR team is not trying to exclude you or silence you. they are doing a great job along with many other individuals.
August 13, 2014, 09:11:54 PM
IF this foundation and the smoke team want things done correctly
then we had better start acting like we know what we are doing
and a vote at an irc meeting suddenly held just not good enough.
I Propose that if you want to be part of the voot foundation
that you first give your name to the nominated transistory PR
person and your qualifications for the position you would like to fill
After this is done, a proper meeting should take place or poll held
where we the voot holders can vote in who we want to represent voot.
At that point discussions with smoke and the hand over the exchange can then take place
in full transparency with everyone in full knowledge of what is going on.
Anything less than this and you are just playing around with my time and money
so first bussiness is who is the transistory pr, i put jefferson forward as
he has been doing an adeqaute job already.
2nd he is to prepare a roll of foundation positions that are to be filled
if he requires help with this then he should ask the community
when this has been accomplished then a public meeting should take place at whihc point
all appropriate voot holders who have a stake in this coin and wish to put themselves forward
for the positoin can do so and their experience.
this can be easily be decided by a simple poll vote for the positions by the community
After that the elected foundation members can eneter negotiation with smoke and carry on forwards
its rather simple really
+1then we had better start acting like we know what we are doing
and a vote at an irc meeting suddenly held just not good enough.
I Propose that if you want to be part of the voot foundation
that you first give your name to the nominated transistory PR
person and your qualifications for the position you would like to fill
After this is done, a proper meeting should take place or poll held
where we the voot holders can vote in who we want to represent voot.
At that point discussions with smoke and the hand over the exchange can then take place
in full transparency with everyone in full knowledge of what is going on.
Anything less than this and you are just playing around with my time and money
so first bussiness is who is the transistory pr, i put jefferson forward as
he has been doing an adeqaute job already.
2nd he is to prepare a roll of foundation positions that are to be filled
if he requires help with this then he should ask the community
when this has been accomplished then a public meeting should take place at whihc point
all appropriate voot holders who have a stake in this coin and wish to put themselves forward
for the positoin can do so and their experience.
this can be easily be decided by a simple poll vote for the positions by the community
After that the elected foundation members can eneter negotiation with smoke and carry on forwards
its rather simple really
but sadly, i don't see that happening.
foundation is already created. its members would not give up the power they feel belongs to them.
it is very clear by the response given by axedcode: "...it is just a foundation which to build upon. We are looking for more talented individuals..."
p.s.
there was no ann for the meeting.
i am sure very selected few were told of this meeting on a particular day and time.
this whole thing stinks real bad especially when the coin is about to die.
i mean, does anyone of the "qualified" people actually have any working brain cells left upstairs?
the term community is thrown around very often. yet, the community wasn't told of this very important event.
out of over 1000 strong voot holders(i am going by address count) only a selected few decided on this very important feature, for themselves.
i have been a vooter from day one. that is to say i mined this coin as well.
i am just as much part of voot community then these selected few.
now they have the balls to say that the community voted them in.
not true at all.
i was not given the opportunity to be part of the discussion.
yes, damn right, i am pissed.
i say abolish the foundation as it is right now and start over.
make an official ann and let the community vote for each and every position there is to be in the foundation.
all current members gone unless all or some voted back in.
let every voot holder be counted.
August 13, 2014, 09:00:27 PM
For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
bla bla bla bla the price hasnt stop plumbeting since weeks ago
that VF is only days old... wrong target
August 13, 2014, 09:00:17 PM
Wow i go shopping and clean the house and BAM i miss a lot lol.
There are robots for that too
(cleaning)hahaha one day. one day....
August 13, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
Wow i go shopping and clean the house and BAM i miss a lot lol.
There are robots for that too
(cleaning) August 13, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
Wow i go shopping and clean the house and BAM i miss a lot lol.
August 13, 2014, 08:53:38 PM
Before we post an official poll, here are some of the options that were mentioned to us in private for the community to review:
How should VOOT proceed if we are unable to reach an agreement with SMOKE for acquiring the exchange?
* Let them have it - there are other more important features VOOT should focus their efforts on
* Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven, with a coin-swap through Bittrex.
* Start a donation fund for another developer to work on an exchange
*
How should VOOT proceed if we are unable to reach an agreement with SMOKE for acquiring the exchange?
* Let them have it - there are other more important features VOOT should focus their efforts on
* Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven, with a coin-swap through Bittrex.
* Start a donation fund for another developer to work on an exchange
*
The above poll will go live at 12AM EST (3 hours from now) if there are not any community agreed upon modifications.
This poll is a last-resort measure for the exchange. The outcome of the poll may not be relevant if we cannot reach an agreement.
sovie, I really appreciate you trying to help, and I agree with most of what you say. It is nice to have some constructive criticism here for a change. Once we establish which direction the coin is to move in, VOOT Foundation will be comprised of official roles, and you will have your chance to review this and all future VOOT decisions.
August 13, 2014, 08:49:58 PM
For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
bla bla bla bla the price hasnt stop plumbeting since weeks ago
August 13, 2014, 08:44:47 PM
For those wo are not aware, SNCS has the lead role of Voot Foundation.
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
I will also be here to support the community as much as i can. Been here since start and not planning to leave anytime soon, this is longterm.
With a bigger team we can assist the community better, we have already setup a good organization so everyone onboard have the latest information.
In my work the computer is not far away and the cell is with me where irc is running 24/7.
With our different timezones there will almost always be someone online to assist.
We will bring more clarity to roles in the VootFoundation soon.
All the best!
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