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sr. member
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Before we post an official poll, here are some of the options that were mentioned to us in private for the community to review:

How should VOOT proceed if we are unable to reach an agreement with SMOKE for acquiring the exchange?

* Let them have it - there are other more important features VOOT should focus their efforts on
* Fork the coin, as 100% community-driven, with a coin-swap through Bittrex.
* Start a donation fund for another developer to work on an exchange
* Huh

The above poll will go live at 12AM EST (3 hours from now) if there are not any community agreed upon modifications.

This poll is a last-resort measure for the exchange. The outcome of the poll may not be relevant if we cannot reach an agreement.

sovie, I really appreciate you trying to help, and I agree with most of what you say. It is nice to have some constructive criticism here for a change. Once we establish which direction the coin is to move in, VOOT Foundation will be comprised of official roles, and you will have your chance to review this and all future VOOT decisions.

FIne keep the poll open for at least minimum 24hrs so everyone gets a chance to have their say or their whine as the case may be
after that everyone should be on the smae page of where we are all going together!

I'm off to sleep 
sr. member
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anyway regardless these are only my suggestions
and they would be the normal way one would proceed
with many people involved.

There are obviously other points of view out there
for discussion.

I am in no way myself looking for any position but to try
and sort this mess out quickly and effectivley without
much more procrastination.

Jefferson should address voot community as to how much
the exchange has cost us, and get these foundation roles
sorted out for voting ASAP.

Who gets voted in after that is not for me to say but for my 1
vote on each position.

After whihc the foundation can have a fair aduly elected
mandate from the voot community to move forward in whichever
way is best for us all as a whole.

This will also allow minimal disruption form fudders and the other exchanges from
interfering as they will have no say after this has been done.
sr. member
Activity: 1274
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As i understand it that exchange belongs to the voot community we paid for it from funds we raised
and thats not in question as far as i can tell only how it will be run
Whihc in my opinion the properly and duly elected voot foundation members whoever they may be
can take that decision on our behalf.

We should all actually demand clarity on this.
how much did the exchange cost us already
as for the smoke team having something to do with its
operation I can see a clear benefit to keeping them involved since they created the exchange
and therefore know how it functions already
unless they have something completlely different in mind.

Forking a coin is only neccessary if the community does not have possession of the coin
as i understand it this will be given to the foundation or am i wrong?

sr. member
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IF this foundation and the smoke team want things done correctly

then we had better start acting like we know what we are doing

and a vote at an irc meeting suddenly held just not good enough.

I Propose that if you want to be part of the voot foundation

that you first give your name to the nominated transistory PR

person and your qualifications for the position you would like to fill

After this is done, a proper meeting should take place or poll held

where we the voot holders can vote in who we want to represent voot.

At that point discussions with smoke and the hand over the exchange can then take place
 in full transparency with everyone in full knowledge of what is going on.

Anything less than this and you are just playing around with my time and money

so first bussiness is who is the transistory pr, i put jefferson forward as

he has been doing an adeqaute job already.


2nd he is to prepare a roll of foundation positions that are to be filled

if he requires help with this then he should ask the community

when this has been accomplished then a public meeting should take place at whihc point

all appropriate voot holders who have a stake in this coin and wish to put themselves forward

for the positoin can do so and their experience.

this can be easily be decided by a simple poll vote for the positions by the community

After that the elected foundation members can eneter negotiation with smoke and carry on forwards

its rather simple really
full member
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digging in the bits... now ant powered!
well not everyone was present at this irc meeting
and i for one and am not comfortable with the idea that a bunch
of people just got tohether and voted for something.
no doubt  there were peopple in there from other exchanges
voting without even being voot holders.

This needs to be done with a lot more transparency
than it is being done already.
FUrther all those put up for voting should be confirmed voot holders
and have the appropriate bussiness acumen to do something like this.

So a developer must be a proven developer, a pr person must habe experience
to doing PR  ect.

Considering I can tell from the tones of whats being said that smoke are giving
the impression that they were either not paid in full or rather came to some
other agreemenrt with ms collec as to the exchange

this needs to be out in the open

either this coin is going to begin acting like a proper investment vehicle
and run as a proper bussiness or we can all just pack up and go home
as this community has already raised a heck of a lot of funds to get things
done

+1
sr. member
Activity: 1274
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well not everyone was present at this irc meeting
and i for one and am not comfortable with the idea that a bunch
of people just got tohether and voted for something.
no doubt  there were peopple in there from other exchanges
voting without even being voot holders.

This needs to be done with a lot more transparency
than it is being done already.
FUrther all those put up for voting should be confirmed voot holders
and have the appropriate bussiness acumen to do something like this.

So a developer must be a proven developer, a pr person must habe experience
to doing PR  ect.

Considering I can tell from the tones of whats being said that smoke are giving
the impression that they were either not paid in full or rather came to some
other agreemenrt with ms collec as to the exchange

this needs to be out in the open

either this coin is going to begin acting like a proper investment vehicle
and run as a proper bussiness or we can all just pack up and go home
as this community has already raised a heck of a lot of funds to get things
done
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
we won't release the sourcecode because we want to avoid leaks. can someone post the business discussion of what actually occurred on the irc chat please?

How is the foundation to endorse such a service if they, as experienced developers, are unable to review what they are pushing to the public?

we have no idea who the foundation is? dont get us wrong we are not trying to be derrogtory but in the same moment people from this community are waigning from left to right with affiliations, initially we were contacted by an individual after prior contact the individual started slandering the coin. the exchange is ready and setup we are expecting a business negotiation here we gave everyone a chance to view the exchange and be involved. that was why the community had an IRC chat and we sent the appropriate information. we want to know what happened within these communications as we have no idea what was discussed.

Then kindly give the code to jeff who is the formal PR for Voot. Things will not progress until there is a review of the code.
member
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we won't release the sourcecode because we want to avoid leaks. can someone post the business discussion of what actually occurred on the irc chat please?

How is the foundation to endorse such a service if they, as experienced developers, are unable to review what they are pushing to the public?

we have no idea who the foundation is? dont get us wrong we are not trying to be derrogtory but in the same moment people from this community are waigning from left to right with affiliations, initially we were contacted by an individual after prior contact the individual started slandering the coin. the exchange is ready and setup we are expecting a business negotiation here we gave everyone a chance to view the exchange and be involved. that was why the community had an IRC chat and we sent the appropriate information. we want to know what happened within these communications as we have no idea what was discussed.
sr. member
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@smoketeam,

Someone, Atleast one person in the voot foundation needs to review the code. It's the common practice when you outsource a work to someone.
hero member
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we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time. we told trading was disabled until we find a legitimate business person to take it over and give control to, we told this to various people over and over again. we gave the link to jefferson before the deadline so the PR team could confirm that it is completed and he could show it to interested parties. currently we have no idea whats happening with it we are unable to do anything very few have made contact with us regarding it. please have a normal discussion about the options for it and then we can have discussions.

also we received no information on what was discussed on IRC or possible solutions in any way. PR is doing a good job but we are completely out of the loop on what the community thinks.


Hi, I am posting this on behalf of the newly formed Voot Foundation.

Would you be able to share the source code with us so we can review it?

we won't release the sourcecode because we want to avoid leaks. can someone post the business discussion of what actually occurred on the irc chat please?

some guys said your site doesn't change for a week, the address is still the beta one, u claimed this is the official one?
member
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we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time. we told trading was disabled until we find a legitimate business person to take it over and give control to, we told this to various people over and over again. we gave the link to jefferson before the deadline so the PR team could confirm that it is completed and he could show it to interested parties. currently we have no idea whats happening with it we are unable to do anything very few have made contact with us regarding it. please have a normal discussion about the options for it and then we can have discussions.

also we received no information on what was discussed on IRC or possible solutions in any way. PR is doing a good job but we are completely out of the loop on what the community thinks.


Hi, I am posting this on behalf of the newly formed Voot Foundation.

Would you be able to share the source code with us so we can review it?

we won't release the sourcecode because we want to avoid leaks. can someone post the business discussion of what actually occurred on the irc chat please?
full member
Activity: 457
Merit: 103
we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time. we told trading was disabled until we find a legitimate business person to take it over and give control to, we told this to various people over and over again. we gave the link to jefferson before the deadline so the PR team could confirm that it is completed and he could show it to interested parties. currently we have no idea whats happening with it we are unable to do anything very few have made contact with us regarding it. please have a normal discussion about the options for it and then we can have discussions.

also we received no information on what was discussed on IRC or possible solutions in any way. PR is doing a good job but we are completely out of the loop on what the community thinks.


PR Team and Foundation, the ball is in your court. What's going on?

who is the foundation?
who voted them in how do they figure into what happened
one thing is for sure anyone responsabile for the damage caused
to the coin should have no part in running it now
and that includes everyone who created panic as they obviously not fit for purpose
we never got to vote.
community should have had the chance to vote just like we voted for logo.
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time. we told trading was disabled until we find a legitimate business person to take it over and give control to, we told this to various people over and over again. we gave the link to jefferson before the deadline so the PR team could confirm that it is completed and he could show it to interested parties. currently we have no idea whats happening with it we are unable to do anything very few have made contact with us regarding it. please have a normal discussion about the options for it and then we can have discussions.

also we received no information on what was discussed on IRC or possible solutions in any way. PR is doing a good job but we are completely out of the loop on what the community thinks.


Hi, I am posting this on behalf of the newly formed Voot Foundation.

Would you be able to share the source code with us so we can review it?

@SMOKE TEAM

Kindly reply to Jeff asap. This is important for the next step.
member
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we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time. we told trading was disabled until we find a legitimate business person to take it over and give control to, we told this to various people over and over again. we gave the link to jefferson before the deadline so the PR team could confirm that it is completed and he could show it to interested parties. currently we have no idea whats happening with it we are unable to do anything very few have made contact with us regarding it. please have a normal discussion about the options for it and then we can have discussions.

also we received no information on what was discussed on IRC or possible solutions in any way. PR is doing a good job but we are completely out of the loop on what the community thinks.


Hi, I am posting this on behalf of the newly formed Voot Foundation.

Would you be able to share the source code with us so we can review it?

Keep on them Jefferson, and get the VOOT source. The hell with Smoke's sources. Let them keep their silly exchange and what not. Get your guys involved and verified as PoD and let's do this.

Good luck man.

sr. member
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so surley the smoke team can reprovide the code
to jefferson if need be?
full member
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digging in the bits... now ant powered!
discussion is not the output, we have reolver the future of the currency as adults. Been waiting for answers and now smoke staff are here to resolve the future of the coin, let's focus on that.

Agreed, Smoketeam, can the let us know progress of other Voot Projects? Market and cloud?

legendary
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we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time. we told trading was disabled until we find a legitimate business person to take it over and give control to, we told this to various people over and over again. we gave the link to jefferson before the deadline so the PR team could confirm that it is completed and he could show it to interested parties. currently we have no idea whats happening with it we are unable to do anything very few have made contact with us regarding it. please have a normal discussion about the options for it and then we can have discussions.

also we received no information on what was discussed on IRC or possible solutions in any way. PR is doing a good job but we are completely out of the loop on what the community thinks.


Hi, I am posting this on behalf of the newly formed Voot Foundation.

Would you be able to share the source code with us so we can review it?
member
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discussion is not the output, we have reolver the future of the currency as adults. Been waiting for answers and now smoke staff are here to resolve the future of the coin, let's focus on that.
member
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we are still waiting on what the community wants to do with exchange. the exchange is not beta it is finished and was released on time.


No, it definitely was NOT released "on time".  It was released late.

Everyone behind this coin keeps trying to change history.

we released it the on the community deadline. this wasn't even a deadline but was an incentive deadline. we released it  hours before this deadline. like we released TOR three days before the deadline. please stop trying to re-write facts. we are not behind this coin we are developing for you the community. but if you want to tear us and each other apart please continue.

The incentive deadline was set by the community because the community was sick and tired of you coming up with excuses for pushing back the release. 

For the exchange to have been "on time" it would have been released weeks ago. 

It wasn't.

Most truth spoken in weeks. Can we now consider Jefferson's offer of new devs, who would be willing to go through crypto-asian's PoD?

member
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yeah its a he i believe and you were one of those that contributed
to the downfall of this coin I've gone back and read it and your name comes up
all the time, funny mine does not as i was away when all this happened
so Forgive me if i don't believe anything you say at all ever.

In fact the 2 guys you and your posse hurt by damaging their investments
with utter bullshit and nonsense should find you and beat you to a bloody
pulp

You have some nerve being at the centre of all this and still blame everyone else but
your self and your part in it. Because its there for all to see even if you try
remove your posts others responded to you

YOu're a disgrace pal and the very reason why some people get beat up in the real world
with your threatning tone, i bet you have some superman pijamas on as we speak
eating your coiokies and milk before bedtime

Oh how wonderfull to be a young
no go to bed like a good little boy
or i'll tell your mommy on you I will Grin


I know Sovie, I had never even heard of this coin before the PMS outburst of MsCollec, but I was there all of the time damaging it and FUDDing it and pushing it down. It's all my fault that MsCollecs PMS outburst happened and this coin fell to shit... I ADMIT IT... Smiley Smiley Smiley LOL....

But who the hell are you talking about now and "sending death threats to?. Beaten to bloody pulps. Damn. Sounds like deaths threats to me. Idiot. Go back to SYNC coin where you belong.

You are insane.
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